Your feelings on marijuana...

I'm a bit confused by the OP. What the hell does probation have to do with anything? Pot is still illegal in most applications/states so obviously a dirty test while on probation is going to cause problems for the person. That really has fuck all to do with if it is addictive. One is a legal matter, the other is a scientific matter.

Tell you what, I'll give you a bag of blue boy and a bag of pot. Smoke the pot, then the next day shoot up the blue boy. Let's see which one you can't walk away from.

 

Government regulation on the subject of drugs, like it is on most subjects in general, is always a contradiction. Just watch any one of the myriad of commercials for prescription drugs that are available. Nearly half of all those commercials is spent listing the possible side effects. And these drugs are available to nearly every neurotic that has a doctor. Yet on the subject of marijuana, the reasons given for continued prohabition are either lame or 50 years old and already proven wrong. We knew back it the late 60's and early 70's that if the government would allow marijuana to be packaged, taxed and sold over the counter, it would probably nearly erase the national debt.

 

OP These juveniles are delinquent, they have difficulty doing the right things, their behaviour should not be used to assess a drug's addictive properties.

and Borla DON'T DO ACID!!

 

Don't fear a high from weed. And no, it's not a gateway drug. I find that those who experience paranoia would no matter which drug they use or take. And mean drunks are still worse than get-highs. Plus the drunks are way more dangerous on the road...or at least that's what I've read.

 

if i didn't have random drug tests at work id still smoke a little from time to time.

 

It is a drug and to say that it is harmless for everyone and anyone is naïve. Even caffeine can have a different response in some people's system. I don't have a problem with legalizing it, although I do think it needs an age limit and regulated. Texting and driving is bad for adults, but it's really bad for a teenager whose brain hasn't quite learned to deal with several stimuli at one time. I view marijuana in a similar light. For a teenager it will be more "dangerous" than for an adult.

Some "potheads" just make you want to hit your head against a wall when you talk to them because of the way they've completely liquefied their brain. Others might have had no real change to their mental status. People have different body chemistries and it will react differently with each person.

If I try smoking a joint, I don't get enough to have any effect at all. Taking a hit from a bong can have a scary effect for me and while I felt the high, I also wanted to jump into the little fire pit we were sitting around. For me it is a scary effect. (Fyi - I do think I'm inhaling correctly from the joint since I can get a high from a cigarette.)

 

it's like a tool......the more you use it,the better you get at it.

know your limit,play within it.

oh yeah........and I smoke regularly......

 

Fly knows of what he speaks.
I too, 'smoke' regularly (use a vaporizer).

 

Having been in the addiction field, it's NOT a gateway drug (alcohol is more likely to be IF anything). As with ANY problem usage, there has to be the questions:

Does it affect your life in a negative way? Well, if you are being tested there's a chance at one point it did.

Do you spend more money than you should or can afford to buy the drug or the results of use? If you are in the court system for it, chances are.....

Have you ever undertaken a risky behavior due to lowered inhibitions caused by the drug? Driving while buzzed would be a great example.

Physical withdrawal aside (since there isn't one known), have you ever tried to stop and been unable to? Random or not, smoking and knowing there can and will be negative repercussions (unless your friend is just using it as a scare tactic) would show problematic use. When I was in the Navy, there were a lot of pot smokers who got caught, they'd see and have the punishment to serve, but still smoke, even IF they knew it meant a BCD if they got caught.

For anyone to say, "it's just self medicating, there are underlying psychological issues" is only half right . 99.9% of addicts use their drug to self medicate and numb their "pain".

Marijuana, like it or not, IS a drug. END OF DISCUSSION. As a drug, (and food/sex/gambling are can also be considered drugs, as the use by some can change their mental state which is the definition of a drug right there), marijuana can be extremely habit forming. 50 years ago people could smoke in hospitals and no one claimed addiction. If it negatively affects your life and you cannot stop regardless of the negative consequences then by definition it is a problem or addiction (whether physical or mental).

That said, I am a believer that it should be legalized. I love it.I can't do it since my operation because it throws me into seizures.

Just remember, there was a time when they said powder Cocaine was NOT addictive mentally OR physically. But as crack and freebease came along, that changed. There are strains of weed out there that when you buy off the street you have no idea what you maybe getting and growers keep working on stronger strains, dealers have been known to lace a little coke in just so that they have a repeat customer base, with each buy containing more coke.

Is it addictive? Physically NO, psychologically, YES. When you have someone driving down a freeway and smoking a bowl or trying to load one, there is a serious problem there. IT should NOT be ignored.
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Not to be a cold wet rag, BUT weed stays in your system for at least 4 weeks if not more, depending on the amount smoked and how often. So to say, "well I'm testing you next week" is kind of already damning, IF you have been partaking. Quitting for that week, isn't going to do anything but MAYBE lower the THC in your system.

But again, I reiterate, IF you KNOW a test can happen at ANY time, why smoke it at all, UNLESS you have a problem.

ASU among a couple others admitted as a reason, they don't is because of their job.... THAT shows responsible behavior and addictive/substance abuse problem thinking usually forgoes any responsible thinking. Back in the day, it would make me paranoid as fuck and yet give me a body buzz I loved. I'd get so paranoid, there were times I'd freak the fuck out. BUT I still wanted that buzz more than the repercussions. Now, I have seizures and can't, I'd love to the last few times I had finally gotten through the paranoia and enjoyed the buzzes. I can not handle it so I can not do it. Not everyone who smokes has that mentality. Back when I smoked, I'd get so high and paranoid, I was like a crackhead on a month's binge (paranoia wise) but, I didn't care, I wanted that THC stone.

 

Mary Jane doesn't like me much, so I'm fine leaving her to the people she associates with on a more personable basis. That being said, let her have her friends and her fun. I'm fine staying out of her way.

 

EVERYONE has some sort of problem or another. Whether it is drinking, or spending too much money, or smoking, or driving too fast, what have you. Millions of people in this country smoke pot illegally and live under the threat of 'random drug tests.' All in all, it would seem that pot smoking is a very minor sort of 'problem' to have. I'm sorry that you had problems smoking pot. Fact is, most people who don't enjoy being high, don't smoke. They try it a few times and decide it's not for them. Unlike drinking and many other things that people can become addicted to.

As for 'potheads' and the way they act, did anyone stop to think that maybe they'd be like that whether they smoked pot or not? I smoked for many, many years. I've known a wide array of people who smoked for years and years. I've never witnessed someone who became less smart because of pot. Pot doesn't change who you are essentially, you're just you, but high. If you're sort of a dumbass, maybe you seem like a stoned dumbass when you're smoking pot. Doesn't mean you'd have been fucking Einstein if you hadn't started smoking.

 

No. Of course I don't mind.
However, it seems digital technology has crowded out my vaporizer. Mine was somewhat similar to this: Aroma Therapy Super Vaporizer - Vaporizers - Grasscity.com --it was electric but it cost about $100.
Do you have a recommendation? I actually like the taste of good bud and I find I lose a lot of it using a vaporizer.

 

I'm a good 'Ol fashion doobie roller myself,although,the few times I've tried a vapourizer........I sure did enjoy it.
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puff,puff,pass

 

mellow

 

Jealous....

 

Introversion and pot can make for a deep, deep submerge into nothing, for me. It is comforting and discomforting at the same time. I am paranoid anyway, so compounding it only makes me agitated and more suspicious. I feel sleepy and overly contemplative, but not conversant. I am not conversant anyway, so being stoned exaggerates my own deep need for isolation. Once I get in there, I am gone, far away. A few tokes on a joint is ok, but a bong is a no-no. I turn into a twitching clam of a person, devoid of all external personality. Alcohol is better for me. It lightens my mental burdens. I'd rather accentuate the lovey-dovey parts of myself instead of my darker habitual need to retract into oblivion, only enhanced through pot use.

 

As an introvert - I thank you for that post...

 

when i was younger, i smoked more. these days i smoke hardly at all, now that i think about it.

i don't object to it, and haven't a general position on the question of weed, really...i've figured out that it varies in its effects by individual. i know a bunch people who smoke and probably shouldn't and others whom it doesn't seem to bother particularly.

i get focused on passive activities when i'm high. i like to listen to things (actually, that's not a passive activity)...but i don't like to talk and don't enjoy being around most other people because the same tendency that underpins that type of listening---a sort of judgmental preference for types of symmetry to the exclusion of others--extends to people that i'm around. i tend to stay home and blast music.

it doesn't help me focus with any of my work...if i'm doing piano stuff, for example, it gets in the way because i like everything. sometimes it's good to record stuff when you're liking everything, though. maybe there's a reason for it. maybe there isn't. hard to say. i don't read when i'm stoned. i don't write. i think i can focus, but i know that isn't true. i do like ice cream.

but, like i said, this is particular to myself.

when i was younger i used to do hallucinogens. this was the case largely because they were around in great-to-scary abundance at the time. for a while after that i thought i had damaged myself...and for a while i had. anyway i stopped for years and years.

much later, i did some again.
i was curious about what it'd be like after all the time had passed.
as it hit, i remember thinking:

you don't need drugs.
you are drugs.

maybe that has something to do with it as well.

 

Then again, I am also an introvert, and I enjoy pot very much. Depending on the strain of weed I smoke, I either enjoy being stoned and doing light reading, or watching movies or TV, or cooking, or even sometimes writing. Stoned masturbation is also a great introvert moment, TBH.... And if I'm just a little high, not very stoned, I can still interact okay with others, enjoy hanging with friends or the wife....