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Is Butthole the New Vagina?

Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by OtherSyde, May 6, 2014.

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What's your take on the Ancient Art of Going Greek?

  1. Gross and weird, this shit is the downfall of society!

    3.2%
  2. Not for me, but people can do whatever they want.

    32.3%
  3. No experience, but I'd give it a shot.

    22.6%
  4. I'm curious but too afraid to bring it up.

    6.5%
  5. I'll watch it in porn, but I don't want to actually do it.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. I'm already stocked up on AstroGlide!

    48.4%
  7. Buttsex is Satan's past time, the anus is the gateway to Hell!

    3.2%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    I beg to differ. Sure, some practices today had remote forerunners -- often in remote cultures -- but that doesn't mean everything has always been the same.

    The basic human sex equipment may not have changed in the last thousand years, but attitudes and behavior have changed radically, in multiple dimensions.

    A hundred years ago in the U.S., oral sex was considered a bizarre specialty. In the prostitution business, oral cost a lot more than PIV sex.

    Two hundred years ago, very few people in Western society had any idea that there was such a thing as a homosexual person.

    If any of us were suddenly transferred just back to 1955 (the year I was born), we'd suffer enormous sexual culture shock. And the further back in time you go (or the further away from our own culture), the weirder it would be for us.

    The past is a different country, at least when it comes to sex.
     
  2. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    And I beg to differ even more...because what was stated or noted and what was actually done are two different things.
    And media also did not seek out or publish what may been otherwise.
    We are finding more and more as it came out that people were just as lusty...or it was "considered" in different terms. (ex. doctors "curing" female hysteria)

    Sexual mores flux through time and culture, sometimes it is publicly noted sometimes not.
    Sometimes it is found by historians, sometimes it is not.

    And when I say, "nothing new under the sun"...I'm not restricting it to current decades...but even over longer time arcs.

    As demonstrated under Masters of Sex, people were doing is in many ways...it just wasn't advertised, it was undercover,
    rationalized, justified, denied, twisted, etc...
    And there were different sectors of society...just because Elite White Puritans weren't doing it that back in the 1955,
    doesn't mean other portions less "well thought of" weren't.

    Those whorehouses didn't just fill themselves.
    Nor do I doubt they stuck to just the "basics"

    Nor do I believe that all couples stuck to just that either in their own home...it just wasn't put out there.
    kind of like Prohibition.

    Shit, it's like when more "established" portions of society discovered the Rhythm & Blues.

    Well, guess what...they just "discovered" different sexual styles.
    Or re-discovered it...because it existed throughout the ages beforehand.
    Waxing & waning just like the moon.
     
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  3. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

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    Last edited: May 7, 2014
  4. OtherSyde

    OtherSyde Slightly Tilted

    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Well I would doubt that people anywhere in the past behaved exactly as they do today, but I would imagine small pockets of them likely did - isolated and outcast subcultures of sexual deviants mostly. Has it ever been as open and widespread? I doubt it, as sanitation technology and disease negation have never been anywhere near this good, not to mention almost all older cultures had some religion instead of science as their guiding light, likely meaning a stronger tendency towards sexual conformity (in general - not universal of course).
     
  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Well, this is true...and I would understand why something like anal sex would be considered unhealthy in the past.
    They didn't have the standards or technology to resolve certain things that would be related to that portion of the body.
    Or even if completely heathy...there would be a relational mindset easily put in place, since it is the source of solid waste products.
    Even more "apparent" than the liquid waste product coming from the penis/vagina.

    In addition, it has nothing to do with the reproductive capacity which was emphasized by many including authority figures.
    So the onus would be to setup "rules" or stories that emphasize avoiding it...if not making it an outright sin.

    But, like I stated, it didn't just come from nowhere, there have been many indications of the past, both positive and negative context.
    Ancient Greeks, Sodom & Gomorrah, and so on...
    I'm sure the caveman to thousands of years on up to where the social rules were put in place to avoid it
    ...those horny souls were sticking it in, where-ever it felt good.
    And women unfortunately, didn't have as much to "say" about it back then, whether they liked it or not...or wanted it or not.
    But I guess, if they liked it, then it would be encouraged.

    I'd be interested to see what dynamics are in place in our more isolated tribes currently out there, like in the Amazon and such.
    Sociologists may or may not have already asked a question like this.
     
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  6. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I have no doubt that sodomy & buggery have been around as long as humankind (before that as well, if we wanted to take evolution back far enough). No doubt anal sex took place: Among men, as an alternative to risking pregnancy, as a way to maintain vaginal virginity (even now an intact hyman is important in some cultures), as punishment & humiliation, just because, etc. Knowledge of such behavior, and increases in the practice of, followed the invention of the printing press, the increase in printed materials, the related rise in literacy, the invention of and advances in photography, then film, the internet, etc.

    Anal sex might be more common (and perhaps more accepted) these days, but it isn't new.
     
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  7. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    This thread is making me regret that I packed up all my history of sexuality books yesterday.
     
  8. OtherSyde

    OtherSyde Slightly Tilted

    Location:
    San Diego, CA

    Where are you migrating to? Or from, for that matter (I mean in a rough, general sense)? Is there a thread about this I haven't found yet?
     
  9. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Just moving a couple hours away to the Big City. :)
     
  10. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher




    I wonder if Weezie enjoyed taking it in the back door?
     
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  11. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    Based on the poll results thus, TFP is: 2/3 people that put it in the butt and 1/3 people that wish they were putting it in the butt.

    Not at all shocking.
     
  12. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

    That's like the inverse of The Shocker. Two in the stink and only one in the pink? Crazy.
     
  13. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    A good followup poll would be...
    1. Do you have a preference of vaginal, oral vs. anal, either/or, or all of the above.
    2. Do you go out of your way for anal...or does it just "happen" by experimentation & spontaneity
    3. In an anal context...phallic, digital, toy and/or oral (with preference)
      1. In anal activity, if done...giving, receiving or both.
    4. In anal desires, if there - real or media or both (with preference)
    And if I was honest I'd say
    • All the above, in order of preference...oral, vaginal, then anal
    • Mostly by experimentation & spontaneity
    • Combining 3 & 3.1 and order of preference - Oral (both), Phallic (giving), Toy (giving), Digital (giving)
    • Both, Media preferred.

    Wait...are you sure this isn't the deepest, darkest secret thread??? ;)
     
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  14. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    I don't see the attraction or why it has become trendy. If there was a vagina an inch away, I would want that every time.
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2014
  15. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Or "'double anal' triple penetration" if you weren't such a prude.
     
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  16. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    When one opening is too wide for your equipment, the other must suffice.
     
  17. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    Why not both?

    *leaves creepy Asian girl picture out*
     
  18. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Vaginal w. anal toy, anal just happens (the mood strikes!), toy (husband is big, toy is smaller and more forgiving), and I don't like watching anal in porn.
     
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  19. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    1. All of the above.
    2. I usually drop hints well in advance.
    3. In giving, generally--rimming to 'get the mood started,' finger(s) to help her relax, no toys, followed by PIA.
    In receiving, finger(s) to to relax me, followed by a strap-on dildo. Other toys sometime, but very rarely.
    4. Real is preferred (duh). Anal in media pretty much follows my tastes in porn in general, I much prefer amateur. Amateur/semi-amateur anal isn't easy to find, especially pegging. Both at the same time is fine, but I prefer to concentrate on what we're actually enjoying.
     
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  20. Levite

    Levite Levitical Yet Funky

    Location:
    The Windy City
    1. All of the above.
    2. I go out of my way for anal.
    3. Phallic, digital, oral, toy
    3a. Giving
    4. Both
     
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