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Does anyone carry pepper spray?

Discussion in 'Tilted Weaponry' started by ChrisJericho, Apr 16, 2015.

  1. ChrisJericho

    ChrisJericho Careless whisper

    Location:
    Fraggle Rock
    I was thinking about integrating some pepper spray as a less lethal option into my EDC. Does anyone have any good recommendations? I would ideally like a brand that also offers the inert training spray so I could practice deploying it.
     
  2. Japchae

    Japchae Very Tilted

    Yup. I carry a Spitfire when I'm not working. It's carried at most gun shops. I'm not sure about an inert spray, but they guys at the store had one filled with windex to show people. It's pretty foolproof. Hubs emptied one at a brewery in the bathroom, like an idiot and cleared out the entire indoor/outdoor dining area. He also "tried it" at home by directing the spray into the tub and breathing... We had to air out the entire condo for about 6 hours, he had terrible eye and breathing trouble, I had an asthma attack and had to leave. Good stuff.
    Mine's pretty banged up, I've had it for years and replace the cartridge regularly based on its expiration date.
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    Just point it, slide the button forward, and press. Kids are too smart, that's why I don't carry it at work. Or my glock.
     
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  3. ChrisJericho

    ChrisJericho Careless whisper

    Location:
    Fraggle Rock
    Hmmm interesting, thanks for the pics.
     
  4. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    I've never carried it for personal protection but I always took a canister of UDAP out with us for bears (along with a shotgun).
    The UDAP has a real good reputation for actually making bears turn around instead of just making you a spicy snack.
    But UDAP also makes jogger and key chain size size sprayers.

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  5. omega

    omega Very Tilted

    I used to carry it. Then I got my taser. In our department you can't carry both. Many pepper sprays use a flammable propellant. So someone pepper sprays, someone else tasers?potential for perp flambe. A lot of us aren't really fans of pepper spray because we would still have to go hands on with someone. Which means it's getting all over us. You would never get it out of a car interior. And some people can fight through it. We all had to in the academy,but some handled it better than others. We had to stand and take a blast in the face. Then spend the next thirty seconds or so punching and kicking striking pads. So it doesn't truly disable you. But it does mess you up. I could barely see.
     
  6. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Given where you live, why do you feel the need?
     
  7. ChrisJericho

    ChrisJericho Careless whisper

    Location:
    Fraggle Rock
    Do you carry a taser when you're off duty? I'm already carrying so much junk (gun, spare mag, knife, flashlight, keys, cell phone, wallet) that I'm running out of belt space and pocket volume for something the size and bulk of a taser, which is why I'm looking at smaller pepper spray canisters.
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    30% for bad guys, 70% for bad dogs.

    One park I run at is notorious for dog owners who let their dogs run around without leashes on despite the "keep dogs on leash, it's the law" signs everywhere. Generally they run up to you and start barking violently and growling until the owner catches up to them and says "Don't worry, he's a friendly dog."

    So I stopped running at that park as often and ran on sidewalks. Then dogs started running out of people's yards (once again not on leashes) and coming out onto the sidewalk to bark at me. I have a 3.5" Sog Aegis pocket knife that is hair shaving sharp, but I would rather not flay someone's dog in front of them if I'm ever attacked.
     
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  8. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    You might have better luck with a good expandable impact baton.
    With only a little practice you can get competent enough to make any dog change it's mind and take out most attackers.
    They're relatively inexpensive, reusable and you don't have to worry about too much blood (broken bones maybe).

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  9. omega

    omega Very Tilted

    Oh I'd be perfectly happy using pepper spray on a dog. That would work much better than a baton would. And I'm pretty sure that pepper spray would discourage most people of ill intent. I am referring more to the situations where I might have to go hands on with someone. You can fight through pepper spray. But it sucks. Conversely, if it blows back in your face you better be prepared.
     
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  10. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    This is important to note.

    It's good to have a foundation of unarmed self-defence before focusing too much on armed self-defence. Readying/deploying/using weapons has an innate fail rate depending on many, many variables, and I'm sure there are some situations where using a particular item would not be ideal.

    Just some examples: What do you do if someone grabs you from behind? What if they are otherwise controlling your hands? What if they trip you by surprise? etc.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm sure pepper spray or a baton are effective tools (I hope to train in the latter one day). But it would be a mistake to rely on these things alone without knowing what to do if you find yourself in a situation where you cannot use them (or use them well enough). The example of fighting through the pepper spray is an excellent one. And even with a baton: You've smacked someone (or whatever), but you didn't incapacitate them, you've only made them angry. What next? After smacking someone once or twice, you're not likely to get much in the way of more freebies with said baton.

    This brings me to my next point. Not all situations are going to end up with incapacitating an attacker. In many situations, it's simply about opening a window of opportunity to get away from them. Armed or unarmed, it's good to know the basics in how to create those opportunities. Such skills/knowledge should be taught from a young age.
     
  11. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    Most certainly.
    I raised both my daughters with the 'get the fuck out of there' principle of self self defense.
    Do what you have to get free and make sure they can't follow you, than run like hell.
     
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