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Old 11-06-2004, 09:03 PM   #35 (permalink)
rfra3645
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Originally Posted by Stompy
Nah, I'm not goin anywhere.

I have a few different perspectives on this, but there's really only one that I currently follow:

I didn't vote for Bush, but 59 million people did. Any mistake he makes is his own. Conspiracy theories aside that his administration will bring on WW3 and the end of our freedoms as we know it, I feel that him being in office is dangerous. I believe in natural selection, so if people want to appoint a leader that could potentially get us into some deep shit, then I personally won't defend them. I'll gladly let nature run its course.

The death toll in Iraq is only 1500, and really, it's not that much. That doesn't bother me. It's the hypothetical situations - what if we started shit with Iran, what if we started shit with N. Korea, etc... that could have a runoff effect and blow up into something bigger than we anticipated.

I know these countries will eventually have to be dealt with because they're potential "hot zones", and understandably so, however, if this administration is stupid enough to get itself into something that it can't handle, then it deserves to fall.

I just don't feel that this country, at this point in time, is worth defending because I don't feel that it does its job in defending me. I'm not talking about the terrorist boogeymen, but personal freedoms and politicians who do their hardest to uphold the constitution.

Yeah, I can still go to work, school, and do pretty much whatever I feel like whenever I feel like it, but it goes deeper than that, and the reasons for that are probably best explained in a different thread, but I will give just one example (and it's very minor:

Politicians seem to be worried about the green, as in $$. Notice the amount of attention the MPAA/RIAA have received in the past few years, yet more important and pressing issues like spyware are allowed to run rampant and out of control (yes, it was just recently a bill was passed to help stamp out spyware). I don't think that should be defended. Or shit like the Patriot act... there's just too many hypocrites running things.

See, this country started off GREAT, but somewhere along the lines, people started taking advantage of the system we have and lost sight of the main goal. In fact, I feel we're close to doing a complete 180 and going in an opposite direction than intended.

There's more examples, a LOT more, but in all - I'm not too proud of this country right now. Anything this country gets itself into in the next 4 years, it needs to deal with on its own. I'm not saying 59 million people are STUPID, but if they feel this is the type of leader they want elected, then THEY can fix the mess until they learn to think more carefully about who to elect.

I'd rather sit in a jail knowing I stood up for what I believed in as opposed to being pushed around and forced to do something I don't want to do.

At the same time, I do realize that war is sometimes necessary to get desired results, but if its misused (ie Vietnam), then I don't think I should have to fix that mess.

If it was something like another Hitler that amassed this massive army and we didn't have enough manpower to fight it, then that's another story. I just don't fight trivial wars, that's all.

My not registering started off as laziness when I was 18, but as I got more into law and more aware about politics of this country, it was more of a direct refusal to comply with the law. Just because it's law doesn't make it right, and personally, I'm okay with breaking this law - it's what I believe in.

Not to mention, someone who's forced to fight is exponentially less efficient as someone who volunteered. It's moot anyway, there will never be a draft.

that sounds like the perfect compromise really... you have your belief and are sticking to it i have to and very loudly do aplaud that. thats really what america is all about.



[quote] Politicians seem to be worried about the green, as in $$. [quote/]


amerricans almost seem to aprove of this in some grotesque way. some would say they were suporting it by reelecting bush who is supposedly for the big bussiness therefore the big money.. i would say yes most politicans look at there job as a a damn good way of making money wether it be the local police chief who happens to have a private "fund" or the vice presdent who happens to make money off a large priavte compnay subbed out to the pentagon which he was a part of long before vice presidency. but still politicsis just an verry provocative enterprise.


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See, this country started off GREAT, but somewhere along the lines, people started taking advantage of the system

isnt that what modern day america is about using the system

woman succesfully sues mcdonalds spilt cofee in lap

there are way to many of theese stories too list

i still say if your called to duty cowboy up... its time....
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