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Old 01-07-2005, 12:11 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jb2000
The destruction, coopting, and subverting of symbology is one of the negative effects of such groups and activities. I do have sympathy for wanting to not surrender things to these groups, but certain symbols, like it or not, have been so tainted. As such, if we continue to allow those symbols to have places of honor, then while we may have articulated rationales for saying why it is okay to use the symbol, for many it serves as a way to retain a sense of relevance for their ideology while being able to duck investigation by hiding behind our rationales when convenient. I.E., a person puts the Conf. Flag on their car as a strong symbol to people on both sides of the issue of his feelings, but is able to cop that they are just honoring the fallen soldiers when in an uncomfortable position (i.e. around people that he doesn't want thinking he's a racist). I am not at all saying we should limit what people can say on their cars, but as long as we enshrine these symbols in our public places and in places of honor within the community, we continue to provide the cover for those types to continue their broadcasts.
But if those whose family members fought and died for the south and in whom the CSA battle flag is a rememberence of their bravery refuse to display it, won't the hate groups have won? Not that it matters so much but the CSA battle flag wasn't even the official flag of the CSA, it was the flag used by the boys on the battle field.

I understand what you say about the swastika and it's negative meaning after the Nazi's used it even though it's original use was much different. But the southern pride tradition is much closer to home with thousands of Americans (with millions of ancestors) who were fighting for what they believed was their legal homeland.

Alas, I'm afraid if those of us who regard this symbol as a non-racist tribute to bravery of the southern fighters cannot overcome the hate groups and those who choose to be offended, the CSA flag will go the way of the swastika. In this day and age of instant soundbites, I fear most folks will not take the time to read or try to understand the history.
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