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Originally Posted by Suave
Hah yeah. The saving grace I hear though is that (not sure on the accuracy of this info) the 5.7mm round tumbles inside the target, much like the 5.56mm. It wouldn't cause issues as it does with the 5.56m because it is a pistol round, and not designed for use past 250m (which is where the 5.56mm stabilizes and loses its improved cavitation abilities).
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that still doesnt reassure me very much

and the hydro-static shock crap is just that, crap, gimme something fool-proof, like a big ass hole in another human being, thats all I really wanna hear about.
Its so stupid, the Army had the PERFECT balance between stopping power and controlability and they threw it all away, why? because the damn europeans wanna shoot small, light, and fast projectiles...
to paraphrase Jeff Cooper, "It's different in American than it is in Europe, in America, if you shoot a criminal, he starts shooting back, in Europe if you shoot a criminal, he'll sit down on the curb and start crying"
we need something with some more balls. we need to put more time into training the soldiers who actually NEED pistols (most do not)