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Junkie
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Originally Posted by willravel
Note: here you say you have a firearm to protect your family; your family is worht a ton to you and you have a gun to protect it.
We all live with dangerous odds every day. The aforementioned almost car crash made me a statistic. I'm more likely to be involved in an auto accedent than be robbed or have my home invaded. Do I carry a gun in my car? Of course not.
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Will that gun protect you from a car crash? obviously not, but it COULD protect you from/during a carjacking.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Um, who cares? My point is that, despite the fact that my $50 could have bought food or medicine or whatever, I made the dicision that $50 isn't worth me trying to hit someone or shoot someone. I see life as being precious, no matter how one chooses to live it. If someone is a nobel peace prize winner, great! Thast person's life is no more or less important that someone who is so poor they have to rob people just to eat.
This is dangerous. Where do you draw the line? $40? $30? $5? How much is this vagrent's life worth to you?
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IF, and thats a big IF, I can spare money easily, i'll give it to them, however, not all criminals will just take what you give them and leave IF they think you have more. I read news stories every day how people are shot first then robbed, or robbed and then shot to prevent witnesses, or robbed and shot because the robber didn't get enough. You may think me selfish when I say this, but so be it, my life is more important than the guy/girl who's trying to rob me/shoot me, because without me, my family suffers.
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Originally Posted by willravel
You said "If the neigborhood animal decided to shoot you", which communicates that this person (or animal) is from my neightborhood. I answered your question. My situation applies no matter where the person is from. House invasions while the family is home durring the day are more trare than lightning strikes, so I won't even address that.
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You'd be wrong, hopefully not dead wrong.
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Originally Posted by willravel
If someone comes towards my house at night, the lights will turn on automatically, and not only will he lose the opportunity to surprise me, but I will know there is movement out there. The mear fact that the light turned on is a deturent.
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again, wrong.
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Originally Posted by willravel
ALSO, my windows and drapes are closed at night, so he really wouldn't know where we all were in the house. Usually we're all in the master beedroom, which has direct access to the basement, and thus the bomb shelter. I have security doors which are locked at night, therefore he would have to come in throight the window. This situation becomes less and less dangerous for me and my family. Eventually, I just have to say, "I am more likely to be a lottery winner than have this situation happen, so planning for it by putting a VERY dangerous weapon in my house seems unnecessary."
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fine, but does that give you the right to force those odds on me?
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Originally Posted by willravel
You seriously underestimate police officers.
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Fact: Tell that to 18,209 murder victims, 497,950 robbery victims, and 96,122 rape victims that the police could not help.
Fact: The courts have consistently ruled that the police do not have an obligation to protect individuals. In Warren v. District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App. 1981), the court stated: `Courts have without exception concluded that when a municipality or other governmental entity undertakes to furnish police services, it assumes a duty only to the public at large and not to individual members of the community.' Well, except for politicians that receive taxpayer-financed
bodyguards.
Fact: There are not enough police to protect everyone. Currently, there are about 150,000 police officers on duty at any one time.
• This is on-duty police. This includes desk clerks, command sergeants, etc. –
far fewer than 150,000 cops are cruising your neighborhood.
• There are approximately 271,933,702 people living in the United States.
• Thus there is only one on-duty cop for every 1,813 citizens!
Fact: Former Florida Attorney General Jim Smith told Florida legislators that police responded to only 200,000 of 700,000 calls for help to Dade County authorities.
Fact: The United States Department of Justice found that, in 1989, there were 168,881 crimes of violence for which police had not responded within 1 hour.
Fact: 95% of the time police arrive too late to prevent a crime or arrest the suspect.Do I really? I don't doubt that most every cop out there WANTS to protect everyone. It's that feasibly they cannot.
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Originally Posted by willravel
A gun could make me less safe because guns are weapons that can kill you and I have a 2 year old girl. Yes, I can take the necessary safe guards to ensure she can't get the gun, but why would I want to gamble with my daughter's life? So what if the odds of her getting the gun out of a locked drawer or safe are 1,000,000 to 1? You can't gamble with your family's safety!
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you already do, you've said this yourself.
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Originally Posted by willravel
I'm a pacifist, so yes. That doesn't mean I wouldn't take measures to defend myself in a given situation. If someone tries to hit me, I try to block. If someone shoots at me, I take cover. If someone shoots at my daughter, I get between the shooter and my daughter. I do take responsibility for the lives of my family, make no mistake. I simply refuse to become what I hate: a killer.
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take this with every bit of sarcasm you can imagine, but i'll bet your daughter will be proud to know that her father died NOT being a killer....as she grows up without one.
Luke 22:36 - He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
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