Originally Posted by host

stevo....the previous governor of CT, John Rowland, a republican, was in that office for almost ten years.....he just got out of federal prison after serving a sentence after he copped a plea for taking bribes while in office, and his successor, Jody Rell, is also a republican. CT has the highest per capita income in the country, and Greenwich, Ct. was the home of the Bush family.

You must have missed the fact that recent polls all indicate that republicans have squandered, in the eyes of scientific sampling of American adults, the trust advantage that they formerly enjoyed in the area of perceptions that they were the stronger party on national security issues.

The core question of this thread, stevo, is what makes an opinion "mainstream", and what relegates it to the "fringe"? Lieberman, in the face of the facts, made statements that are absurd as President Bush's statements, with regard to "progress in Iraq". Politicians never lead....they simply check which way the wind is blowing, with regard to public sentiment, and they go with it....they "catch up" to where the public has moved to.

Lieberman and Bush made recent statements about Iraq "progress" that are absurd. The majority of Americans want the U.S. to withdraw our troops from Iraq, and a plurality believe that the democrats will manage the Iraq situation and national security in a more competent way than the president and his party are currently doing. That is fact. If you have information that will refute that....beyond the "fringe" pronouncements that I quoted from republicans officials.....lay it out for us.

You only repeated republican opinion that seems to have no current basis in fact....because Americans want to bring the troops home from Iraq, and they have not trusted republicans more than democrats on national security matters, for a signifigant number of months, and polling cycles, your opinion, and reports in the media, not withstanding......

I invite you to post facts that indicate that our military is closer than a year ago to completing it's mission....in Iraq.(what is the mission.....what do Bush and Rumsfeld describe the mission as being.....when they talk about "winning"?)
Post recent facts that back your opinion that Americans trust republicans more than democrats on national security and Iraq war management.