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Old 04-26-2007, 10:53 AM   #23 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
Ace, how is it possible to do due diligence without access to the information? Cheney et al spoke of clandestine information without revealing any of the specifics. How is it possible to refute it?
By not accepting it. You say the following: I will not comit this nation to war based on clandestine information unless and until your reveal it. You also say the following - I know that you ( Mr. Cheney) have put forth your strongest case for war, it is my responsibility to review all the information, pro and con, before I make final judgement. I will to review all intelligence data, and need to have unhindered access to all the people involved in providing the intellegence. Otherwise, my vote is no!

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Given that, how could anyone make a case against it? If you're only given the cherry-picked information and none of the conflicting information, you're only left with "feelings" and "suspicions", neither of which are particularly compelling.
You don't accept cherry picked information. Never. When I buy a car, I don't rely on the salemen. When I buy a house, I don't rely on the real-estate agent. When I buy a stock I don't rely on my broker. I do my homework. Why would Congress buy a war, without doing their homework. Please tell me, and I will drop this. In every discussion about the war, I bring up the same point. I have never gotten a good answer. If Congress was aspleep at the wheel, how can they now say they where lied to, and believe that thinking people will absolve them of responsibility of buying it? At least Kucinich has been against the war from the begining.

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Kucinich has always been consistently against the war, and I don't think that he harbors any illussions about being elected President. Sure, these articles further his agenda, but it's an agenda he passionately believes in. What's wrong with that?
I love passionate people. There is nothing wrong with Kucinich, or him doing what he thinks is right for whatever the reasons. When I call politicing - politicing, there has been a problem with that, however, I will continue to call 'em like I sees 'em.
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