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Originally Posted by ratbastid
I'm stunned at this attempt to put the blame for the administration's falsehoods on the Democrat members of congress, who a) weren't the ones who lied and who b) were in the very marginalized minority at the time.
"Yes, your honor, I sold the child the poison. And YES, I told him it was candy. But HE'S the idiot who ate it!"
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I don't think there were falsehoods.
I think people who voted for the war knew all of the reasons they supported the war and had opportunities to take stands against the war before we actually went to war. To now say it is "Bush's war" without taking their fair share of the responsibility is wrong in my opinion. I don't consider our Congress child like, they are responsible adults.
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Originally Posted by Elphaba
Ace, I have read others challenging your "proofs" as mere cherry picking, but I've seen it for myself with this bit:
Ace, you plucked one paragraph from a six page interview (Cheney in Bahrain, 2002) that was just one among the 16 citings you had to choose from. I believe this form of debate to be fundamentally dishonest, and I now understand why your positions have lost credence in this forum.
Anyone interested in a full presentation of Kucinich's articles of impeachment should use the following link:
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It is true I have my bias' and put more time and effort into researching those things that support my point of view. I have stated that many times, and in my posts above I state that "we" have a responsibility to do our own homework.
Regarding the quote I cherry picked - I simply read the first submission. I did not go through each one, yet. However, if Kucinich is presenting his best case, and he leads with what I read, he made an error because most won't go through everything if there is no compelling proof to start with. I am going to read the rest.
However, the question is on the table, how can anyone read what Chaney said and believe he directly connected Al Qeada and Iraq? Why was that document used? Perhaps I missed something.
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Wow...another Dem who can multi-task.
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It is a given that members of Congress can multi-task. Do you think it possible that a Democrat can have an agenda to gain publicity or do things for purely political reasons?