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Originally Posted by debaser
You can argue semantics all day, but I stand by my statement.
I was not refering to hell, but rather the worst fate for a true believer, separation from his or her God (or gods).
As for me, I actually try to do what's right because it is right. You are arguing for expediency, not morality.
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Although I would love to argue semantics, I don't think we should cross that bridge, so let's avoid that. But, on the other hand, perhaps if we do take the time to look into the meaning of what you are saying, I can better understand it.
You may not have meant hell per se, but hell being a major aspect of a large religion (Christianity), it did make for a good example. It would also be of interest to describe other states of divine separation. A Christian fears hell because there they are separated from God, but what of other faiths? And what if a Christian loses faith? Maybe that is the worst fate for what you would call a "true believer"--becoming a non-believer.
I try to do right because it's right. It is because it is. I am because I am. These statements have little value because they are self-evident. It sounds like you are glossing your morality here. What is right, and why? What makes you try? Why bother?
And I wasn't arguing for anything--neither expediency nor morality; I was outlining the Christian belief of the outcome of good and evil, and how to deal with it. You might find it interesting that underneath the allegory, symbolism, and ritual that the Christian morality is not unlike your own. I can't say myself, because you haven't explained what is "truly moral."