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Old 11-08-2007, 11:08 AM   #26 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by roachboy
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on the op:

i think it a lunatic idea that students should be allowed to wander around a university strapped. it isnt worth serious consideration---its just fucking nuts.
hence the rationale from roach that he just doesn't need to debate the topic, because it's fucking nuts.

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Originally Posted by roachboy
you see this limitation continually here: conservatives do not and cannot outline or defend the premises for their arguments. it's as if the relation to politics that is presupposed by being-conservative is immediacy, and its some kind of strange rule violation to explain how arguments work. the result is that there is no debate--there is the repetition of mutually exclusive claims ("left"/right) based on axioms/assumptions that are never articulated. you would think that if a political ideology is worth investment that it'd be worth articulating at a remove and amenable to being defended logically--you know, at the level of the in-itself (as ideology) and with reference to effects on the world (empirical falsifiability)...but no.
a very interesting way to provide a juxtaposition of the liberal/conservative argument.

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Originally Posted by roachboy
that said, i doubt seriously that any organization the basis for which is an idea this laughable could possibly do anything in this regard.
and yet in utah, and soon to be more states, are allowing this to actually occur. who'd a thunk?
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