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Old 01-08-2008, 12:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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As to answer your last question jinn, no. Freedom is most certainly not free, but it's not bought with ceding freedom to authority, it's bought with constant vigilance against the encroachment from authority.
I don't think you thought that through to it's natural conclusion.

"Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

If human beings did not cede to lawful authority, we would have none, correct? We'd have anarchy, by definition. Is that the type of "freedom" you'd like? There are countless problems with anarchy, with the primary problem being that it necessarily dissolves into a situation where someone is either ceded authority or takes it forcefully.

Your statement is furthermore a "chicken and an egg" situation; if we did not cede to lawful authority, we would not need to be "constantly vigilant"

I'd much rather "cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion" than live in anarchy, but it's entirely possible that I am alone in such a position.
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