Originally Posted by sapiens

You argued that even well-trained people accidentally shoot themselves "so often". This may be true. I don't know. The statistics you provide do suggest that people do accidentally injure themselves when using firearms. Does this mean that "well-trained people" injure themselves "so often"? It's hard to tell without data on "well-trained" people (whatever than means) and some means of putting that 23,000 number in a context (how many accidents compared to how many uses, etc.).