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Originally Posted by djtestudo
The one thing I'll say (as someone who wouldn't dare consider himself anything more then casually knowledgeable on the subject and who also tends to believe that humanity's effect on global climate is minimal), is that part of my understanding on the subject is that climate change could cause more extreme weather, not necessarily simply warmer or cooler climates. So even if there was a colder and wetter winter, it wouldn't matter if the summer was hotter and drier then in the past.
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The problem with this, is its a cop out.
All their models showed an increase in temperature (which didn't happen). Many were predicting worse hurricane seasons (which didn't happen).
This is a cop out because its completely non-predictive. Its saying 'well we don't know if it will be warming or cooling but bad things will happen', and then every time we have a major snow storm or hurricane its 'see global warming did it!'.