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Old 12-03-2008, 09:08 PM   #40 (permalink)
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3 - "Insering a finger in the rectum" - this is the only thing mentioned which COULD be considered as assault. But the question again is was this done against the man's will. Even though a resident in a care home may be infirm, it is quite hard to see that a 19 year old girl could physically overpower a man to the degree that she could shove a finger up his rear if he did not want her to. How did this situation arise? Why was the man not wearing trousers at the time? If she bundled the guy over and shoved a finger up his arse as he told her to stop - yes we would consider this assault... but is this what happened? To any of us find that a realistic scenario?
The parts bolded by me make it seem like you have never actually been to a convalescent facility. A good majority of the residents of these facilities can do little or nothing for themselves. This includes dressing, bathing, and using the restroom. That's the reason why I equated this to child molestation, because many residents are the equivalent of infants. And because of several issues including incontinence, many of these people's sole piece of "clothing" is a hospital gown.

Now to the "nobody complained" argument. These people are in an altered state of consciousness. They have a hard time discerning what is reality.

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe that it is ok and legal to do anything to an unconscious person as long as they tell you to stop, and as long as they don't tell anyone afterward?

Also, if you read the police report, the girls state hat most of the things they did were to make the residents "mad". If these were pleasant and/or consensual activities, why would the residents be angry about them?
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