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Originally Posted by twistedmosaic
If you believe the above, and are stating definitively that a murderer is not a Christian, what about someone who is angry with or hates their brother, or is drunk, or envies someone? Are these people also definitely not Christians?
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What do you mean "also"? I never said the man in the OP wasn't a Christian. I said he was a failed Christian. He turned away from the teachings of Christ and destroyed lives, including his own. One who is angry, hateful, drunk, envious, etc., aren't necessarily failed Christians...yet...though they need to do a lot of work to get back on the path that Jesus would want them to.
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Are prison ministries just wasting their time? Do the murderers being preached to know that they can't go to heaven?
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No.