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Old 10-29-2009, 10:17 AM   #74 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth View Post
yes, it's all the same. we're all human beings who deserve to be treated equally. by imposing a harsher sentence on someone because they committed a crime against someone of a persuasion they hated, but the same crime against someone of like skin color or orientation, is providing special protection to the first class.
Yes, I agree. We all should be treated equally. That's why we need to do something to stop people from murdering gays. When a homosexual is murdered for being homosexual, that has an impact on the gay community. It's a form of intimidation, it's a communication of hatred to the community.

It doesn't apply if a gay man kills a gay man...because in all likelihood this murder wasn't motivated by a hatred of gays. There is no comparison.

I'm really not getting what you're arguing....

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Deemed worse by whom? Certainly not by those of us who think people are equal and should be treated so.
If people were treated equally, there wouldn't be a problem with gay being murdered or otherwise abused for being gay. There is a problem with this, is there not? If we are to be protected equally under the law, we should feel equally protected, no? Something should be done if a gay man feels uneasy about being in gay in public. Being heterosexual in public isn't usually an issue; neither is being a hippie.

Homosexuals have had to hide their sexuality for fear of being ridiculed or persecuted or destroyed. (And many still do.)

I don't know why you're wondering about equal protection for unequal crimes.

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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq View Post
In my neighborhood, they have extra police on horseback 2 units, a couple foot patrols, and a police van. The precinct is less than 2 blocks from the synagogue, and this happens during the Jewish Holy days.... it doesn't happen during Christmas, Diwali, or Ramadan.
I don't know your neighbourhood. In my old neighbourhood, there was a huge Kosher section in the grocery chain outlet. I couldn't find Ayurvedic or Halal sections. I'm guessing it's because they didn't need them or perhaps they weren't concerned about there being any real issues of not having them.
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