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Old 10-11-2003, 11:06 AM   #14 (permalink)
HarmlessRabbit
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Originally posted by seretogis
Even if the shirt said "U of M are a bunch of fags", I think it would be a huge leap to assume that it is "hate speech" towards homosexuals, and not just a jab at Michigan students of all sexual persuasions. If you call someone a "retard", you are insulting that one person -- not every mentally handicapped person in the world. Every group (even rich white boys) can have the negative aspects of it used to be insulting.
And now I'm agreeing with Seretogis. Wow.

Exactly what I was trying to say. Saying the word "fag" or "cocksucker" doesn't equal "hate speech". It may be "dumb" speech or "juvenile" speech, but not hate.

I grew up in a racist family. My mom and dad both talked about "Nigger this" and "Nigger that". It's a fact, nothing I can do to change history. Some of that rubbed off on me, and it wasn't until I got to college that my eyes got opened. I think these college students are learning an important lesson about what they can say and do in public versus in private. In the same way, Abercrombie & Fitch learned a lesson a few years ago when they put out a t-shirt that offended asians. Did I think A&F was practicing "hate speech"? No, they were just being a bit tactless.

Jumping to say "hate speech" stifles productive discussion.
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