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ratbastid 08-28-2003 04:05 PM

Identify this Critter
 
Okay, so lurkette and I were taking a hike in the mountains on a recent trip, and as we were making our way up a trail that crosses the site of an old rockslide, this fuzzy little <i>something</i> came running past us. It perched on a rock and made a sort of dog-like "Rawp!" noise. Another of its kind Rawped from a rock above, and he took off like a shot, looking for its friend.

We figured it was half squirrel and half rabbit. We named it "Squabbit". Before long we were singing, "Kill the squabbit.. kill the SQUAbbbit!" as we tromped along the trail.

Showing these pictures (and making the "Rawp!" noise) to our family yielded no help in identifying said critter. They mumbled things like "Potgut" and "Rockchuck" and "Yellow Bellied Marmot".

So what the hell <i>is</i> this thing? Anybody know?

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/htt...r/critter1.JPG
http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/htt...r/critter2.JPG

lurkette 08-28-2003 04:13 PM

I hafta amend my dear husband's entry - the "rawp" noise was sort of like a high-pitched, well, "yawp" but it didn't sound like a dog to me, it sounded like a croaky sort of bird call.

I know this probably doesn't help, but had to pitch in my $.02.

Giant Hamburger 08-28-2003 04:25 PM

Dear Lord!

That face, those eyes, those merciless black eyes from some sunless stygian pit in the bowels of the nethermost regions of hell. I hoped to never return that calculating, impenetrable gaze, ever again. The malignant intelligence, the steel-coiled muscles rippling beneath tawny fur, the unspeakable ears, this is a foul recipe for macabre horror on the most profound and mind-blasting level. I can barely type.

It’s a marmot.
-GH

bermuDa 08-28-2003 04:29 PM

hmm, it does sort of look like a marmot...
http://www.well.com/conf/wildlife/images/marmot.gif
but the ears look a little big, and its fur isn't quite long or wiry enough.... maybe it's just a youngster

ratbastid 08-28-2003 04:36 PM

It was about a third the size of a marmot, is the thing, and more consistently colored.

It's sort of guinea pig-sized.

MacGnG 08-28-2003 04:52 PM

never seen one of them b4 it looks semi cuddly :p lol, i've never heard of a marmot either.

Averett 08-28-2003 05:12 PM

It's a ROUS... Rodent Of Unsual Size ;)

Halx 08-28-2003 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Averett
It's a ROUS... Rodent Of Unsual Size ;)
No, those are only found in Fire Swamps

WhoaitsZ 08-28-2003 05:15 PM

dude...... that on the leftf with the leaves? that's lurkey!

YOUR WIFE

geeeeeeeeeeeeez

-----

it looks like a giant sized mouse with manners or a short chubby otter...

its like plummie's chinchilla.. its a CUTE little..... ohmygodwhatthehellisthat!

Ganguro 08-28-2003 05:52 PM

plummies chincihlla? are we talking about the same thing here Z?
*wink wink, nudge nudge*
*cues porno music*

cetacean 08-28-2003 07:01 PM

I've done some small mammal trapping (for conservation monitoring, we just count and let them go...), but only in the northeast. I don't recognize this critter. If you tell me what region you are in, I can look in the mammal books.

fallen_angel 08-28-2003 07:07 PM

looks kinda like a rabbit and a geuinie pig

The Geek 08-28-2003 08:49 PM

Muskrat?

mingusfingers 08-28-2003 09:05 PM

ack. I've got no idea. I guess I should get outdoors more.

zxello 08-28-2003 09:25 PM

By the off chance that you're the first to find/report it, i would take the pictures to a wildlife conservation or somethin to report it, you may get to name it and classify = )


my .02$ = )

Cobalt_60 08-28-2003 09:31 PM

Damn, it looks huge in the first picture.

KeyserSoze 08-28-2003 09:53 PM

What you found there is a Degu.

See the following link:


http://www.degus.org/

This will tell you everything about the lil tike:cool:

Double D 08-28-2003 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KeyserSoze
What you found there is a Degu.
See the following link:
http://www.degus.org/

A Degu, huh? Don't see one of those every day.
Congrats, KeyserSoze on being TFP's super sleuth. :thumbsup:

bundy 08-28-2003 10:38 PM

a degu...
wow, never even heard of such a creature...

i thought it seemed quite similar to a hyrax, but those distinctive ears are different (and a hyrax is african and is wee bit bigger).

theguyondacouch 08-29-2003 01:10 AM

looks like a pika.

K-Wise 08-29-2003 01:21 AM

http://www.pbs.org/edens/tasmania/pi...tos/wombat.jpg

LMFAO ever hear of a Wombat yo? Thats what that is. Lil bigger than most rodents.

Asta!!

K-Wise 08-29-2003 01:26 AM

Hmm guinea pig sized eh? Wombats get pretty fuckin big prolly not
http://www.collideascope.com/rkq/images/!wombat.jpg

Asta!!

PulpMind 08-29-2003 01:29 AM

Pikachooo!

they both make a good case.. though the one in question seems a bit large in comparison..

K-Wise 08-29-2003 01:43 AM

Okay so far we have...
Degu
http://www.tierschutzheim.de/images/Kleintiere/DEGU.jpg
Marmot
http://www.klamathnwr.org/images/gallery/marmot.jpg
Muskrat
http://www.eppo.org/50ans/pests/images/muskrat.jpg
Wombat
http://www.remmyweb.com/images/wombat.jpg

The deciding factor would be the tail....if you saw the tail. Cause one has a very thin tail....other has a thick one....and I think the other two have small short ones.

Asta!!

K-Wise 08-29-2003 02:17 AM

Actually now that I think about it....It looks more like a Pika than anything else. http://www.bvsd.k12.co.us/schools/co...ife/3spika.gif They live in western north america. In places like Colorado. By process of elimination....Degu's on top a bein pretty rare are primarily found in the Andes Mountains, The Marmot is a rock dwelling creature but is too bulky and the ears are too small, Muskrats are aquatic dwelling animals like beavers, and Wombats live on land and burrow or live in hollowed out tree trunks. So unless you were mountain journying in Chile the creature you saw is actually more than likely a Pika. By process of elimination. Your mind can rest easy now hopefully.

Asta!!

ratbastid 08-29-2003 04:53 AM

Halleluia! My mind can rest easy now! It'll be the first time in 29 years! :D

K-Wise has nailed it, I think. These pictures were taken at the top of Big Cottonwood Canyon just east of Salt Lake City. Not too likely to run across a wombat, unfortunately, but the geograpy is just right for a Pika. That picture you included there even captured his nonchalant and sort of dismissive attitued toward the larger mammals in his presence. He was kinda snooty.

Thanks everybody!

Midlandmadman 08-29-2003 05:13 AM

Man, are you lucky to survive that encounter, Thats Chippy the Death Hampster !!!!!!!!

lurkette 08-29-2003 07:05 AM

And it had no tail that we could see.

theguyondacouch 08-29-2003 07:08 AM

Yay, I was right. See, you should pay attention in bio class.:)

Hard8s 08-29-2003 07:58 AM

could it be a jackalope without his horns?
http://www.sudftw.com/jacklope.gif

cchris 08-29-2003 08:26 AM

It's definately not a Kangawallafox

Double D 08-29-2003 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ratbastid

K-Wise has nailed it, I think. Thanks everybody!

Kewl! A rookie nailed it!
Wow, I'm even more impressed now. K-Wise, how much time did you spend researching this?

Edit: theguyondacouch thought of it first! Way to go!
guy: How did you come up with this?

Wile E 08-29-2003 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theguyondacouch
looks like a pika.
Lets give credit where credit is due. K-wise had the analysis down, but theguyondacouch seems to have been the first with the correct answer.

ratbastid 08-29-2003 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wile E
Lets give credit where credit is due. K-wise had the analysis down, but theguyondacouch seems to have been the first with the correct answer.
Darned right. Sorry, K-Wise, but theguyondacouch beat you out.

Between the two of you, I'm convinced. And I have a new favorite varmint! Pika!!!!

WhoaitsZ 08-29-2003 10:08 AM

one thing for sure, it's cute.:)

(I DIDN'T SAY CUTE, I MEANT 'FUCKING COOL")

pretty neat find, sir ratbastid.

splck 08-29-2003 12:11 PM

Bah...I knew it was a pika...I'm just too damn slow.

flamingpeach 08-29-2003 01:09 PM

aww, its cute. you should have caught it and mailed it to me.

I love exotic pets. ;)

GuttersnipeXL 08-29-2003 01:12 PM

Snuffalupagus?

Double D 08-29-2003 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GuttersnipeXL
Snuffalupagus?
Oh a Sesame Street alum!
I think *Snuffy* was just a tad larger than our little friend, but nice try ;).

Sun Tzu 08-29-2003 03:44 PM

That top shot is great! It looks almost surreal like an oversized bunny.

bernadette 08-29-2003 04:16 PM

aww what a cute creature to happen upon!

it's funny how much bigger it looks in the first pic. looks like a much smaller pet rodent in the 2nd pic.

or is that two different critters (Pika)?

K-Wise 08-29-2003 04:37 PM

Haha damn I didn't even notice thatguy beat me to it. By a long shot too. I believe the Pika's are about the size of a guinea pig as well so it's definitely without a doubt a pika that you saw. Good job man cool to know someone else who knows animals a bit.

Asta!!

Baldrick 08-29-2003 04:46 PM

Whoa, just be thankful it wasn't a marmot! Those things shoot lightning bolts out their arse and have whirling blades for paws. Vicious I tell 'ya...

ratbastid 08-31-2003 01:48 PM

It was about the size of two baseballs glued together, if you will. Sort of that shape too, like a double-handful-of-rawping-fuzzy-goodness.

We didn't see any sharp nasty teeth, though I imagine it's probably killed its share of ka-nighits.

Both pics are of the same critter specimen, bernadette.

glasscutter43 09-01-2003 06:41 AM

If you had a .22 you could have called him "LUNCH"

motdakasha 09-06-2003 09:19 PM

aww, I *LOVE* pika. I saw a few when I was hiking at Mammoth Lakes. They're usually pretty shy, so feel lucky you've seen one.

And p.s. they're cousins of the rabbit. ;)

JazzmanAl 09-06-2003 09:36 PM

I think I am in love! Though, not with the pika, with all of you! wooha

krazykemist 09-06-2003 11:44 PM

We ran across these little critters while in the area of Durango, Colorado.
They were around the base of a cliff by a waterfall.
Must have been about 6 of them.
When I find the pictures I will post em.

Shpoop 09-07-2003 06:58 AM

everyone who said pika was right....

http://www.rockies.com/canadian/images/pika.jpg

funny lookin things huh

GrazingMonkey 09-07-2003 07:01 AM

How about a lemming? nah, probably not.

kulrblind 04-26-2004 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Double D
Oh a Sesame Street alum!
I think *Snuffy* was just a tad larger than our little friend, but nice try ;).

Perhaps it was a juvenile? ;)

Munku 04-26-2004 11:25 AM

It's a Pikawombadegurat!

Fenton-J-Cool 04-26-2004 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ratbastid
It was about a third the size of a marmot, is the thing

... baby marmot?

Boo 04-26-2004 12:42 PM

Rocky Mountain Fur Fish.

fuzyfuzer 04-26-2004 04:12 PM

no everyone is wrong .....

it's me the fuzyfuzer and i don't appriciate people taking pictures of me why do you think i hide in the rocks ;)

ratbastid 04-27-2004 04:16 AM

Y'all are digging pretty deep here! This thread submerged onto the back pages of the forum last September!

In case any of you are posting without reading the thread, we ultimately determined that the varmint in question is a Pika.

Hanxter 04-28-2004 06:30 AM

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...eep_fot101.jpg

TheBrit 04-28-2004 02:27 PM

There is a sheep hiding in that oversize cauliflower you posted, Hanxter.

04-28-2004 04:01 PM

wow, this thread is funny

TopRamen66 04-30-2004 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hard8s
could it be a jackalope without his horns?
http://www.sudftw.com/jacklope.gif

WOW! Thats the coolest animal I've EVER seen!

Edit: hahaha damn i'm gullible, I'm sad to see that thing is not real. I hella wanted a pet one for about 2 minutes.

-Ever- 05-04-2004 02:57 PM

Looks like a miniature donkey. They're quite rare in these parts.

Dale 05-19-2004 11:27 AM

I'm impressed with the research on this thread. K-Wise did a very fine piece of comparison. My first degree is in Zoology and I was simply too lazy to look it up, but with K-Wise's analysis, I fully agree. The Pika has no visible tail. Head and body of adults range from 6 1/5 to 8 1/2 inches. It weights 4 to 6 1/3 oz. They may be grayish to buffy or brownish. It omitts a series of short squeaks. It likes mountains, especially those with rock slides. It is found in Western Canada and all the Western states the U.S. as far East as Wyoming.

Rubyee 05-19-2004 11:58 AM

Degus are sold as pets at the pet store up the road here.


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