OK, I can see that point. Which is likely even worse than cheating alone. Not only are they cheating, but they still try to act respectful. Rather hypocritical.

I think that we all here agree that giving up a seat for somebody is an act of courtesy, but I dont think a person should get a seat just because of their sex.

If a woman expect a guy to give up a seat, then she should be expected to do chores and stay home(which raises the question of why she is on the bus, but nevertheless..). Then we go back to the "traditional roles" of women. LINK for an article about why women should be housewives.

This may be far-fetched, but this could be a form of discrimination (based on sex) that you would give up your seat for a woman, and not a man.

I'm not saying that I wouldnt give up the seat for my parents/relatives/friends etc..., but I would not give it to a random person, just because of their sex.

very well said, art!

I'm glad that someone understood the point I was trying to make.

BTW, I could care less how my friends treat their girlfriends. I don't have to fuck them or date them so how they treat the people they date doesn't affect me at all. They all know I disagree with their actions toward their girlies because I've told every one of them that they're fucking dickheads. If I wouldn't let someone be my friend just because I disagreed with something they did I wouldn't have any friends.

I can understand how you can think that from what I said, but I can assure you that every girl that I've dated would disagree with that 100%. I only date girls that I respect 100%, and I make sure they know it.

I'll get up for any old person, disabled person, or heavily laden person.

I don't think getting up for a women is looking down on them in any way. I just think it's something some people are told is polite when growing up.

lol - amen to that! the 'hot' option especially...

Incidentally, anyone ever picked a girl up that way? Might be an interesting thing to try...

I do tend to give up seats, just because I feel bad about it otherwise; it's polite to do so, and that's my upbringing.

Yeah, I was taught to respect your elders, which I completely agree with....but as I got older, I realized that there are alot of people out there that wouldn't do the same for me. So I've become kind of bitter in a sense I guess....sometimes, I'd have to say that people just plain suck...

Mostly, I'm happy though...

-'hooks

I remember when i stood up and gave my seat for a blind lady escorted by a k-9.. almost everyone told me how gentleman of me to do give up my seat and the best part was .. a fine azz chick on the same train saw me and went up to me to ask me for lunch and guess what happened on that same given night? ;)

Agreed. To not give up your seat makes you a grade-A asshole.

id give up my chair

I'd offer my lap...j/k I've given up my chair many times. Funniest thing I ever did was ask this old woman to dance cause she was glaring off at the dance floor on a Senior trip and making all the girls go "awww :(" so they asked someone to ask her and I did but I got turned down :( Oh well they said I got major "cool points" for that. I'm assuming thats a good thing.

Asta!!

If everyone got a long, it'd be all the better. That means standing up for ladies, helping kids, and cleaning the house.