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Dammitall 01-22-2008 02:02 PM
Heath Ledger found dead in NYC at age 28
 
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Originally Posted by The New York Times
Actor Heath Ledger Is Found Dead

By Sewell Chan

The actor Heath Ledger was found dead this afternoon in an apartment building at 421 Broome Street in SoHo, according to the New York City police. Mr. Ledger was 28.

At 3:31 p.m., a masseuse arrived at Apartment 5A in the building for an appointment with Mr. Ledger, the police said. The masseuse was let in to the home by a housekeeper, who then knocked on the door of Mr. Ledger’s bedroom. When no one answered, the housekeeper and the masseuse opened the bedroom and found Mr. Ledger unconscious. They shook him, but he did not respond. They immediately called the authorities. The police said they did not suspect foul play and said they found pills near body.

Mr. Ledger, a native of Perth, Australia, won acclaim for his role as a co-star in “Brokeback Mountain”, a 2005 film. The film, based on a short story by Annie Proulx about two cowboys who fall in love, won critical acclaim. Reviewing the film in The New York Times, the critic Stephen Holden wrote, “Mr. Ledger magically and mysteriously disappears beneath the skin of his lean, sinewy character. It is a great screen performance, as good as the best of Marlon Brando and Sean Penn.”

Calls by The New York Times to Mara Buxbaum, a publicist for Mr. Ledger, and Steve Alexander, the actor’s agent, were not immediately returned this afternoon.

Thomas J. Lueck contributed reporting.
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...is-found-dead/

snowy 01-22-2008 02:03 PM
Yeah, I just caught this on CNN. Quite a surprise. My mom will be disappointed.

Arc101 01-22-2008 02:10 PM
He was a good actor, and I'm sure would have made many good movies and brought enjoyment to many more people. I am sorry to hear about this, and really hope it was not drugs which caused his death.

Dammitall 01-22-2008 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Arc101
He was a good actor, and I'm sure would have made many good movies and brought enjoyment to many more people. I am sorry to hear about this, and really hope it was not drugs which caused his death.
I have a feeling he was just at the beginning of a really fantastic run. It's a great loss to Hollywood.

Willravel 01-22-2008 02:18 PM
Oh my god. Totally unexpected.

spindles 01-22-2008 02:20 PM
yep - gobsmacked here.

allaboutmusic 01-22-2008 02:29 PM
I didn't see that one coming. I remember enjoying the movies I saw with him in them. RIP.

Tully Mars 01-22-2008 02:34 PM
Ditto all that. Completely blindsided by the news.

MexicanOnABike 01-22-2008 02:36 PM
too bad. now they'll have to find someone else to do the joker in the following batman movies.

Willravel 01-22-2008 02:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MexicanOnABike
too bad. now they'll have to find someone else to do the joker in the following batman movies.
If I were Noalan, I'd write in a magnificent and honorable exit for the character as a tribute to Leger.

Plan9 01-22-2008 02:47 PM
That mountain really did break his back.

*rimshot*

abaya 01-22-2008 03:03 PM
We just saw him as one of the Bob Dylan characters in I'M NOT THERE, last week... feels really eery. Shocked and disappointed here... he was definitely going somewhere with his career. If it was drug-related, though... then that's just such a stupid waste.

YaWhateva 01-22-2008 03:04 PM
I feel so bad, he was one of my favorite young actors. Such a horrible waste of talent.

blktour 01-22-2008 03:09 PM
HOLY Left field! RIP.

Halx 01-22-2008 03:11 PM
I just need to know that he's done filming Dark Knight and I'll be OK.

Frosstbyte 01-22-2008 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
If I were Noalan, I'd write in a magnificent and honorable exit for the character as a tribute to Leger.
I don't see any reason for Nolan to spend any time making a magnificent tribute to an actor who had literally everything going for him and tossed it away on a high. Particularly because it leaves him in the possibly gross situation of having to cast someone else and re-film an entire movie or rewrite the ending or any number of other crazy and inconvenient changes. I really hope he'd already finished filming his scenes for "The Dark Knight".

Important safety tip: Drugs can kill you. And if you're too stupid to not use them either in moderation or not at all, the only regret I'll have is that you didn't get to make more movies to entertain me.

Don't get me wrong, I thought Ledger was a great actor with a promising future. He's in some of my favorite movies and I love his dynamic on screen, but I'm not going to spend any time being upset by his death, because he had complete control over it and chose (either deliberately or through negligence) to kill himself. I didn't see this coming and I think it's a tragic loss to the entertainment community, but I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for him. Maybe I'm just a callous ass. I'm ok with that.

Lasereth 01-22-2008 03:33 PM
Pretty messed up. I hope The Dark Knight was done filming his scenes.

Whenever I thought of him I thought of him being one of the next great actors of my generation. I guess we'll never see that now. His career was about to explode.

Typical drug overdose scenario. Can't believe someone as fortunate as him would waste a life away like that. No amount of pain, misery, or depression is worth taking your own life.

Hain 01-22-2008 03:35 PM
His face seems wrong in this picture [not a picture of him as the Joker].
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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte
I don't see any reason for Nolan to spend any time making a magnificent tribute to an actor who had literally everything going for him and tossed it away on a high.
I sure does look like an overdose... but hey! We live in a crazy world. They are investigating it as an overdose but we never know until enough of those men in the white coats cut him up and figure out what went wrong piece by piece.


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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte
Particularly because it leaves him in the possibly gross situation of having to cast someone else and re-film an entire movie or rewrite the ending or any number of other crazy and inconvenient changes.
I bring The Crow with Brandon Lee to everyone's attention at this time. That still turned out great- one of my favorite movies of all time.

ngdawg 01-22-2008 03:46 PM
Total shock....what a waste of a young talent...:(

YaWhateva 01-22-2008 03:47 PM
The Dark Knight has been finished filming for awhile now, it's in post production so nothing has to be re-filmed. For the 3rd movie things will have to be changed around but The Dark Knight will not be effected by this. A great actor gave his life away. Is it possible that he may have gotten too drawn into his role for his new film The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus? I know he takes his roles in film extremely seriously, like his portrayal of The Joker where spent a lot of time alone in a hotel room in order to write and read about the Joker and get his character perfect. I know thats a weird conspiracy-type theory but I thought I would throw it out there.

KellyC 01-22-2008 03:48 PM
Heath Ledger found dead in NYC at age 28
 
http://omg.yahoo.com/heath-ledger-fo...e-28/news/5898

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NEW YORK - Heath Ledger was found dead Tuesday at a downtown Manhattan apartment, naked in bed with sleeping pills nearby, police said. The Australian-born actor was 28. It wasn't immediately clear if Ledger had committed suicide.

He had an appointment for a massage at a residence in the tony neighborhood of SoHo, NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said. A housekeeper who went to let him know the massage therapist had arrived found him dead at 3:26 p.m.

A large crowd of paparazzi and gawkers gathered outside the building on an upscale block. Ledger's body was still inside, and several police officers guarded the door.

The medical examiner's office planned an autopsy Wednesday, spokeswoman Ellen Borakove said.

While not a marquee movie star, Ledger was a respected, award-winning actor who chose his roles carefully rather than cashing in on his heartthrob looks. He was nominated for an Oscar for his performance as a gay cowboy in "Brokeback Mountain," where he met Michelle Williams, who played his wife in the film. The two had a daughter, Matilda, and lived together in Brooklyn until they split up last year.

Ledger most recently appeared in "I'm Not There," in which he played one of the many incarnations of Bob Dylan ƒƒ‚‚ as did Cate Blanchett, whose performance in that film earned an Oscar nomination Tuesday for best supporting actress.

Ledger had finished filming his role as the Joker this year in "The Dark Knight," a sequel to 2005's "Batman Begins."

He's had starring roles in "A Knight's Tale" and "The Patriot," and played the suicidal son of Billy Bob Thornton in "Monster's Ball." He also played a heroin addict in the 2006 Australian film "Candy."

Before settling down with Williams, Ledger had relationships with actresses Heather Graham and Naomi Watts. He met Watts while working on "The Lords of Dogtown," a fictionalized version of a cult classic skateboarding documentary, in 2004.

Ledger was born in 1979 in Perth, in western Australia, to a mining engineer and a French teacher, and got his first acting role playing Peter Pan at age 10 at a local theater company. He began acting in independent films as a 16-year-old in Sydney and played a cyclist hoping to land a spot on an Olympic team in a 1996 television show, "Seat."

After several independent films, Ledger moved to Los Angeles at age 19 and co-starred opposite Julia Stiles in "10 Things I Hate About You," a teen comedy reworking of "The Taming of the Shrew."

Offers for other teen flicks soon came his way, but Ledger turned them down, preferring to remain idle than sign on for projects he didn't like.

"It wasn't a hard decision for me," Ledger told the Associated Press in 2001. "It was hard for everyone else around me to understand. Agents were like, 'You're crazy,' my parents were like, 'Come on, you have to eat.'"

His movie career caught on anyway, culminating with his Academy Award nomination opposite Jake Gyllenhaal in "Brokeback."

"Dark Knight" director Christopher Nolan said earlier this month that Ledger's performance as the Joker would be wildly different than Jack Nicholson's memorable turn in 1989's "Batman."

"It was a very great challenge for Heath," Nolan said. "He's extremely original, extremely frightening, tremendously edgy. A very young character, a very anarchic presence that taps into a lot of our basic fears and panic."
RIP guy.

Jinn 01-22-2008 03:49 PM
looks like you got beat by one minute

spiderman 01-22-2008 03:51 PM
Wow! This is pretty surprising, although I had noticed Heath getting a little skinny lately. That said, I think there may be some 'gun jumping' going on. No one has said anything for sure on how he died, right?

Shauk 01-22-2008 03:51 PM
pwnt

i'm 28, thats all I have in common with this "event"

otherwise, don't care. I'm heartless.

KellyC 01-22-2008 03:51 PM
Doy!

Umm...thread close/merge, please?

ngdawg 01-22-2008 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderman
Wow! This is pretty surprising, although I had noticed Heath getting a little skinny lately. That said, I think there may be some 'gun jumping' going on. No one has said anything for sure on how he died, right?
According to the newswire I just read, a bottle of sleeping pills was found nearby his bed where he was found, but they will have to do an autopsy to find out if it was an overdose by accident, suicide or something else.

YaWhateva 01-22-2008 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by spiderman
Wow! This is pretty surprising, although I had noticed Heath getting a little skinny lately. That said, I think there may be some 'gun jumping' going on. No one has said anything for sure on how he died, right?
CNN is saying that they found what appear to be sleeping pills all around him.

I saw a report of there being a 911 call at around 2:30 about a man going into cardiac arrest in the apartment building or hotel he was in, but no response was made until after he was found dead by his housekeeper. I don't know how reputable it is though.

PonyPotato 01-22-2008 04:08 PM
Shocking, yes, but I must say that I have little sympathy in this situation. As the sister of a drug addict, I am hardened to drug use.. he made a choice, and it was a bad one. Too bad he won't make any more films.

ShaniFaye 01-22-2008 04:14 PM
Its interesting they are saying it was OTC sleeping pills

I wasnt really a fan of his but this is indeed sad news on many fronts

mixedmedia 01-22-2008 04:18 PM
Thread has been merged.

This is a bummer. :(

PonyPotato 01-22-2008 04:34 PM
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...wRsbroU0BclsXA

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Originally Posted by AFP
The New York Times said Ledger was discovered by the housekeeper and a masseuse who arrived in the afternoon for an appointment.

They knocked on the door, but "when no one answered, the housekeeper and the masseuse opened the bedroom and found Mr. Ledger naked and unconscious on a bed. They shook him, but he did not respond," the Times said.

Both the New York Times and TMZ quoted officials as saying pills were found near the body, but gave no further details.

According to the newspaper, the apartment was inhabited by actor Mary-Kate Olsen.
This is the only article I've been able to find so far that touts the apartment as belonging to Mary Kate after I saw it being rumored on another forum.

She's at Sundance, I think.

Grasshopper Green 01-22-2008 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte
Don't get me wrong, I thought Ledger was a great actor with a promising future. He's in some of my favorite movies and I love his dynamic on screen, but I'm not going to spend any time being upset by his death, because he had complete control over it and chose (either deliberately or through negligence) to kill himself. I didn't see this coming and I think it's a tragic loss to the entertainment community, but I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for him. Maybe I'm just a callous ass. I'm ok with that.
Chalk me up as another callous ass. IMO, he was a pretty damn good actor and had a bright future and threw it all away...not to mention leaving his daughter fatherless. From what I've read, there were sleeping pills nearby, which would suggest suicide to me (unless people have started taking them for kicks). Perhaps I'm jumping the gun since there won't be a definitive answer until the autopsy, but I'm not feeling sympathy for him either.

mixedmedia 01-22-2008 05:17 PM
uh, I don't know, guys, I don't have any trouble mustering up some sympathy for people who kill themselves...all it takes is realizing that we are not all looking at the world through the same set of eyes. :)

Jove 01-22-2008 05:27 PM
This is all very unfortunate, since most of his films were pretty good.

Willravel 01-22-2008 05:31 PM
Are we really going to mock the dead in this thread?

thespian86 01-22-2008 05:32 PM
wow. can't believe it.

PonyPotato 01-22-2008 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
Are we really going to mock the dead in this thread?

*points up* Crompsin started it.

jewels 01-22-2008 05:39 PM
Unbelievable. Totally unexpected, especially one so young and talented.

How sad.

World's King 01-22-2008 05:48 PM
Heath Ledger Found Dead...
 
Heath Ledger...

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Actor Heath Ledger is found dead

3 hours ago

NEW YORK (AFP) — Australian-born actor Heath Ledger, 28, the co-star of the Oscar-winning movie "Brokeback Mountain," was found dead in a New York residence on Tuesday, police said.

"Heath Ledger was found dead at 3:26 pm this afternoon," a police spokesperson said, saying he was found in an apartment in the posh district of Soho. "We don't know the cause of the death."

The entertainment website TMZ said Heath was discovered "face down on the floor" adding that "law enforcement sources ... believe it was not a crime."

The New York Times said Ledger was discovered by the housekeeper and a masseuse who arrived in the afternoon for an appointment.

They knocked on the door, but "when no one answered, the housekeeper and the masseuse opened the bedroom and found Mr. Ledger naked and unconscious on a bed. They shook him, but he did not respond," the Times said.

Both the New York Times and TMZ quoted officials as saying pills were found near the body, but gave no further details.

According to the newspaper, the apartment was inhabited by actor Mary-Kate Olsen.

Ledger, who was nominated for a best actor Oscar for his portrayal of a gay cowboy in the 2005 film "Brokeback Mountain," had separated from his former fiancee Michelle Williams in September. The pair, who met on the set of the Ang Lee-directed drama, have a two-year-old daughter, Matilda.

Lee had hailed Ledger's performance as a "miracle" of acting, reminiscent of a young Marlon Brando.

Ledger lost the Oscar for best actor in 2006 to Phillip Seymour Hoffman for his portrayal of author Truman Capote in "Capote," but "Brokeback Mountain" won three Academy Awards, including for best director.

The flaxen-haired heartthrob first came to prominence by acting as a homosexual athlete in little-known Australian soap opera "Sweat" in 1996. He played a gay cyclist in the teen soap, set at the Western Australian Institute of Sport that portrayed the lives of Olympic hopefuls.

The creator and writer of the series, John Rapsey, said it was clear even then that Ledger, then a 16-year-old sports champion and high school dropout, possessed an unusual talent.

"He himself had absolutely no problem playing the role. He handled all of that with great aplomb," Rapsey told AFP.

"What was noticeable about him was he was concentrated, very quiet, and you could see that he was really observant of other people."

Ledger, who has never attended acting school and who left his home state of Western Australia for Sydney as a teenager, credited his instincts with his success.

"The one thing that's got me to where I'm sitting is my instincts, you know, and I'm impatient. I didn't want to wait for years to work. I wanted to just get out there and do it," he said in an interview with an Australian television program in 2001.

At 19, Ledger left Sydney for Hollywood, where his standout talent was spotted by Mel Gibson when auditioning 500 actors for the role of his son in "The Patriot." The casting was Ledger's first big-time break and led to his leading role in "A Knight's Tale."

Gibson has described Ledger as possessing "the unknown factor" that "sort of lights up the screen".

Ledger continued his steady impact on Hollywood, with a small role in "Monster's Ball" (2001), followed by the lead in the lightweight "The Four Feathers" (2002), Australian drama "Ned Kelly" (2003) and "The Brothers Grimm" (2005).

At 26, the Australian was the youngest nominee for the best male actor category and the outside chance to take the statue away from fellow contenders Hoffman, David Strathairn, Joaquin Phoenix and Terrence Howard.

This month, Ledger had been working on his latest movie, "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus," directed by Terry Gilliam, which was due to be released next year. He also portrayed The Joker in a Batman movie called "Dark Knight" to be released later this year.

PonyPotato 01-22-2008 05:51 PM
This post can be deleted.

MSD 01-22-2008 06:11 PM
Diphenhydramine potentiates opiates. If he was on any sort of pain medication, or a legal or illegal opiate/opioid, it could easily have caused respiratory failure. Now that they're saying one to the Olsen twins owned the apartment, coke comes to mind. If he was on coke and took something to help him sleep or come down from the high, he may have taken way too much and gone into respiratory arrest when the coke wore off and the DipH didn't.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Are we really going to mock the dead in this thread?
Like I've said to my friends, if I die doing something stupid, I hope they remember me as a fucking idiot. I never understood emotional attachments to celebrities, and all I feel is that it's unfortunate that someone I never met either chose to kill himself or make a poor decision with medication and/or recreational drugs.
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Originally Posted by MexicanOnABike
too bad. now they'll have to find someone else to do the joker in the following batman movies.
Doesn't the Joker die in this one?

ratbastid 01-22-2008 06:25 PM
Just to resolve the question, The Dark Knight is in post-production, which means that main photography is over. That doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't want him in front of the camera again--it's quite common to shoot pick-up shots during post. But that obviously won't be an option now. Hopefully they can get a stand-in who does a passable job for any further shots they need. I guess with the makeup, that shouldn't be so hard.

MexicanOnABike 01-22-2008 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MSD
Doesn't the Joker die in this one?
I don't know. please don't ruin the story for everyone else. I haven't seen any synopsis or anything regarding the storyline of the movie. I hope he doesn't die. The Joker is a great batman character.

yellowmac 01-22-2008 07:14 PM
Definitely surprising, completely out-of-nowhere news. Just goes to show you that we can never really "know" celebrities.

Didn't really think that he would outlast Britney Spears on the death pool, either...

Willravel 01-22-2008 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MSD
Doesn't the Joker die in this one?
Spoiler: The original copy of the screenplay I've got doesn't include a death. So no. But now? Who knows.

Anxst 01-22-2008 07:39 PM
Dammit.

I liked watching him in movies. Whether an accident or not, he's dead now. How he died makes no difference. Rest in Peace, Mr. Ledger.

telekinetic 01-22-2008 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by willravel
Are we really going to mock the dead in this thread?
Jokes are in bad taste. However, this is more surprising than sad to me, espcially if it was (as it seems) suicide or accidental OD. I add my voice to the throng of 'hope they were done with filming'

I save my sympathy for people like these, who also died this week.

Spc. Richard B. Burress, age 25: Killed in an IED attack in Arab Jabour Jan. 19
Unidentified pending notification of next-of-kin, age 19: Killed January 19 while conducting combat operations in Al Anbar province
Staff Sgt. Justin R. Whiting, age 27: Died Jan. 19 in Mosul, Iraq, of wounds sustained when his vehicle struck an IED
Spc. Jon M. Schoolcraft, III, age 26: Died Jan. 19 in Taji, Iraq, of wounds sustained when his vehicle struck an IED

Not for movie stars who died of drug overdoses.

/not trying to start a threadjack. if a mod feels like this dose of reality is over the line, feel free to delete.

Cynthetiq 01-22-2008 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by willravel
Are we really going to mock the dead in this thread?
It may sound fucked up, but some of us have to die so that others of us can live. I'm sure you know that.

Baraka_Guru 01-22-2008 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ratbastid
Just to resolve the question, The Dark Knight is in post-production, which means that main photography is over. That doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't want him in front of the camera again--it's quite common to shoot pick-up shots during post. But that obviously won't be an option now. Hopefully they can get a stand-in who does a passable job for any further shots they need. I guess with the makeup, that shouldn't be so hard.
I was relieved to know with some certainty that The Dark Knight is in post-production. However....Ledger was cast to play in an upcoming Terry Gilliam film. I think that one started filming in December. I hope they can salvage it. ...especially since Tom Waits plays the devil in it.

I was shocked about his death too. I've felt for a long time that he was going somewhere, and he actually was. I'll withhold further comments until I know more about what happened to him.

Esoteric 01-22-2008 08:41 PM
I was playing Call of Duty 4 when I heard someone say that he was dead. I had to check after the game and wow totally unexpected. RIP.

MSD 01-22-2008 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MexicanOnABike
I don't know. please don't ruin the story for everyone else. I haven't seen any synopsis or anything regarding the storyline of the movie. I hope he doesn't die. The Joker is a great batman character.
I heard someone mention it with no context. It's just a rumor I heard, nothing substantiated.

Willravel 01-22-2008 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
It may sound fucked up, but some of us have to die so that others of us can live. I'm sure you know that.
I'm not sure what a celebrity overdosing has to do with population control.

Or is it teaching the lesson "don't commit suicide"? :confused:

feelgood 01-22-2008 11:39 PM
That sucks big time. Most celebrity deaths don't usually shock me but damn, pretty sad.

SecretMethod70 01-22-2008 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by willravel
I'm not sure what a celebrity overdosing has to do with population control.

Or is it teaching the lesson "don't commit suicide"? :confused:
I think he means that a public celebrity overdose can remind drug abusers what exactly is at stake in their own lives.

mixedmedia 01-23-2008 02:44 AM
Well, I had an aunt who was a drug addict all of her life, tried to commit suicide several times and finally succeeded in 2004. Knowing that she was a fucked-up drug addict didn't make her death any easier for all of us to deal with.

Jove 01-23-2008 03:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
Are we really going to mock the dead in this thread?
Sorry mate. I was a bit insensitive with my previous comment.

Miss Mango 01-23-2008 03:51 AM
Now this is pathetic!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...mori/heath.jpg

Hopefully Heath will be buried in Australia, so his family and friends can avoid the WBC picket crap.

xepherys 01-23-2008 04:14 AM
I know it's not a great leap to assume suicide, BUT... the fat lady has not sung! Let's at least ride it out until the autopsy is made public before berating him for being an ass and killing himself. Perhaps the pills were bad. Perhaps he had a reaction to them. *shrug* Perhaps he IS an assclown who took his own life. Let's wait to find out for sure.

edit: With the above posting from Miss Mango. Man I hate those WBC fucks! Does anyone else find it ironic that the first three digits of their zip code are "666"?

ratbastid 01-23-2008 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
...especially since Tom Waits plays the devil in it.
WOW. I want him to do the music too--his music would go great in a Gilliam film. Hope they find somebody to replace Heath quick, I want to see this movie!

Tully Mars 01-23-2008 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by xepherys
edit: With the above posting from Miss Mango. Man I hate those WBC fucks! Does anyone else find it ironic that the first three digits of their zip code are "666"?
Seriously? If that's true it's funny as hell. Speaking of hell, if one does exist these WBC fucks are likely future residents.

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Originally Posted by ratbastid
WOW. I want him to do the music too--his music would go great in a Gilliam film. Hope they find somebody to replace Heath quick, I want to see this movie!
As I understand it the film's in the can, so even though a man's dead your movie going future is safe.

The_Jazz 01-23-2008 05:50 AM
I was at a dinner last night, and this was one of the topics of conversation. Someone said that they would be surprised if Westboro Babtist didn't protest given "Brokeback Mountain". Sometimes it sucks to be right.

He could have had an undiagnosed heart condition, had a stroke (my uncle had one at 28) or any other number of things including allergic reactions, etc. He could have been really jetlagged and accidentally overdosed trying to get some sleep (I know EXACTLY what that's like these days). He could have killed himself. The Coen Brothers could have put a hit on him because he wasn't in "No Blood for Old Men". He could have logged on to TFP, started reading one of my overly long posts, slipped into a coma and stopped breathing. All of those possibilities are just as likely as anything else thrown out there at this point. Once the autopsy's done and released, then we can villify him to make ourselves feel superior.

I enjoyed most of his movies, even "10 Things I Hate About You". But he was an actor that I'd never even seen in person. This is sad, especially since he had a little one, but it has no impact on my life.

filtherton 01-23-2008 06:02 AM
Well, let's not waste any time determining a cause of death and meting out the appropriate level of internet forum scorn then.

edit: not you Jazz

Xazy 01-23-2008 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Mango
Now this is pathetic!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...mori/heath.jpg

Hopefully Heath will be buried in Australia, so his family and friends can avoid the WBC picket crap.
I agree it is extreme and over the top and I find it disrespectful. But some people feel that due to their religious belief and they are entitled to their belief. I personally do not try to push on to others my religious belief and feel if anyone did something wrong that is for G-d to figure out.

Frosstbyte 01-23-2008 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
I enjoyed most of his movies, even "10 Things I Hate About You". But he was an actor that I'd never even seen in person. This is sad, especially since he had a little one, but it has no impact on my life.
What is this "even '10 Things I Hate About You'" crap? That movie is a cinematic masterpiece! A tour de force that will be remembered fondly for many long years.

YaWhateva 01-23-2008 07:56 AM
in interviews he had said towards the end of his Joker role he was so into the role he had started to get no sleep so he was taking 2-3 Ambien a night and still getting at most 3 hours of sleep. Pills were not strewn about his room as some reports are saying, but prescription and over the counter sleeping pills were found in his room. He was probably still having trouble sleeping and when the 2 or 3 Ambien didn't work, he took a few more and he, sadly, died. That's just my thought though

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"Last week, I probably slept an average of two hours a night," Ledger told The New York Times. "I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going."

He said prescription sleeping pills didn't help, according to AP.

Also
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NEW YORK (CNN) -- An autopsy Wednesday morning on actor Heath Ledger was inconclusive, and a cause-of-death determination will take 10 to 14 days, a medical examiner's spokeswoman said.

highthief 01-23-2008 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by merleniau
Shocking, yes, but I must say that I have little sympathy in this situation. As the sister of a drug addict, I am hardened to drug use.. he made a choice, and it was a bad one. Too bad he won't make any more films.
Yeah, pretty much - presuming this was an overdose, I don't have too much sympathy for a multi-millionaire with everything in the world going for him, although I do feel sympathy for his family.

How many sleeping pills do you have to take before you question just what the heck you're doing?

If it was something else, like an undiagnosed medical condition, I can switch the sympathy switch back on.

The_Jazz 01-23-2008 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte
What is this "even '10 Things I Hate About You'" crap? That movie is a cinematic masterpiece! A tour de force that will be remembered fondly for many long years.
Yes, I agree that Julia Stiles is unnecessarily hot in that movie.

PoweredByPorn 01-23-2008 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MSD
Doesn't the Joker die in this one?
I hope not. That was my only problem with the original Batman was that he had no problem killing the joker. Batman doesn't kill. He used all sorts of dirty tricks to strike fear in those he was fighting, but he had that line that he never crossed, and that's what separated him from the bad guys.

And back on subject: bummer, I really liked a bunch of his movies and was really excited about his version of the Joker. My girlfriend and I just watched him in The Brothers Grimm a couple nights ago, which made it that much creepier when we found out.

Willravel 01-23-2008 09:41 AM
Psst.... Westbro Baptist Church... HE WASN'T GAY.

Now go back to having sex with other men....

Glory's Sun 01-23-2008 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by highthief
Yeah, pretty much - presuming this was an overdose, I don't have too much sympathy for a multi-millionaire with everything in the world going for him, although I do feel sympathy for his family.

How many sleeping pills do you have to take before you question just what the heck you're doing?

If it was something else, like an undiagnosed medical condition, I can switch the sympathy switch back on.
While I'm not sure if he was taking Ambien or not (one report has him on that), I know that Ambien has caused quite a few people to do things they aren't aware of. So for instance, he could have taken 2-3, been in a semi-lucid or comatose state without realizing it, and taken a few more and his body just shut down. Some people could probably handle 5-6 Ambien.. some people can't. I guess we won't really know until the autopsy comes out.

Also, as MSD already pointed out, if he was on some sort of narcotic with an opiate base, it's quite possible that respiratory failure was the cause.

All that being said, if he did do it on purpose, he could have at least been a real movie star and overdosed on coke and heroin. geez.

Hain 01-23-2008 10:29 AM
Oops meant to go here http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=130581
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flstf 01-23-2008 11:06 AM
Regardless of the cause of death this is indeed sad. He showed signs of turning into a great actor someday. I immediately thought of the line from "A Knight's Tale" (copied from another website)

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RIP Sir Ulrich of Gelderland, you were a knight of the screen in every way. May you change your stars, follow your feet and find your way home.
It appears he had some problems sleeping, perhaps that has something to do with this.
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He is here in London filming the latest episode of the “Batman” franchise, “The Dark Knight.” (Mr. Bale, as it happens, plays Batman; Mr. Ledger plays the Joker.) It is a physically and mentally draining role — his Joker is a “psychopathic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy” he said cheerfully — and, as often happens when he throws himself into a part, he is not sleeping much.

“Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night,” he said. “I couldn’t stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going.” One night he took an Ambien, which failed to work. He took a second one and fell into a stupor, only to wake up an hour later, his mind still racing.

Even as he spoke, Mr. Ledger was hard-pressed to keep still. He got up and poured more coffee. He stepped outside into the courtyard and smoked a cigarette. He shook his hair out from under its hood, put a rubber band around it, took out the rubber band, put on a hat, took off the hat, put the hood back up. He went outside and had another cigarette. Polite and charming, he nonetheless gave off the sense that the last thing he wanted to do was delve deep into himself for public consumption. “It can be a little distressing to have to overintellectualize yourself,” is how he put it, a little apologetically.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/mo...yt&oref=slogin

YaWhateva 01-23-2008 12:19 PM
there are reports now of him having pneumonia. I don't know how reliable TMZ(ugh) is but that's what they are saying. So if he took a few Ambien with his pneumonia he might have had a bad reaction.

blahblah454 01-23-2008 02:52 PM
This sucks. I thought he was an amazing actor. Guess no one is immortal and we all have our time to go.

Tully Mars 01-23-2008 05:42 PM
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This sucks. I thought he was an amazing actor. Guess no one is immortal and we all have our time to go.

Life is not only sexually transmitted, it's also fatal.

blahblah454 01-23-2008 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
Life is not only sexually transmitted, it's also fatal.
Can I steal this?

Tully Mars 01-23-2008 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by blahblah454
Can I steal this?
It's all yours.

Cynthetiq 01-23-2008 06:53 PM
Even funnier that photobucket removed it due to TOS violation

Charlatan 01-23-2008 06:57 PM
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4...estboroko2.png

mixedmedia 01-23-2008 08:45 PM
You'd think that if god really hated Heath Ledger for playing a fag in a movie he'd of had him eaten alive by a pair of tigers or something...you know, rather than overdosing in a posh Soho apartment.

Tully Mars 01-24-2008 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
You'd think that if god really hated Heath Ledger for playing a fag in a movie he'd of had him eaten alive by a pair of tigers or something...you know, rather than overdosing in a posh Soho apartment.
Be afraid, be very afraid. Questioning God's hate and wrath just can't be good for you. Who knows what he going to do to you now. Umm, you don't live near a zoo do you?

Charlatan 01-24-2008 04:00 AM
It's OK. Most of us who post here are going out the same way... God's wrath is unflinching.

mixedmedia 01-24-2008 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
Be afraid, be very afraid. Questioning God's hate and wrath just can't be good for you. Who knows what he going to do to you now. Umm, you don't live near a zoo do you?
Actually, sometimes I think I live in the zoo. nyuk, nyuk, nyuk :p

Baraka_Guru 01-24-2008 04:43 AM
Doesn't God make gays and lesbians?

noodle 01-24-2008 04:53 AM
You know, part of me wants to go out and see the sordid, tacky bucket of slime seasoned with vomit, just because the Baptists hate it so much. By the way, that's my new insult. Shut the hell up, you sordid, tacky bucket of slime seasoned with vomit!!!!!

And when did their god start hating people? I think I was absent that day.

Whatever, but people die every day. Brad Renfro died and no one really made ginormous fuss. This guy died and people are crying in the streets. I just doesn't make sense to me.

Hi! I'm your desensitized-to-death Hospice Social Worker! I work with dying kids every day, this doesn't phase me. Sorry.

Tully Mars 01-24-2008 05:16 AM
Anyone catch the news of Fox News' John Gibson making fun of Ledger death. Called him a weirdo with a "serious drug problem." He played several clips from "Broke Back Mountain" with the funeral march playing in the back ground.

Is John a member of the WBC? Or merely a fan?

silent_jay 01-24-2008 05:25 AM
Here's the audio of the show. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/...-mocks-ledger/

Rather funny how this asshole says TMZ is right about 90% of the time, really? 90%, and the National Enquirer is serious news.

Don't really expect much else from anything associated with FoxNews, seems they only hire assholes and blow hards, who wouldn't know the truth if it kicked them in the cock.

Tully Mars 01-24-2008 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
Doesn't God make gays and lesbians?
I'm no expert on the WBC's postion on this but I did see a 60 minutes piece where Phelp's daughter explained "God makes everything and everyone. It's the gays that take that gift of life and choose to live a perverted life." I'm guessing God hates them for their choice.


On a side note- If Fred Phelps isn't in the closet then I'm a freaking ballerina.

silent_jay 01-24-2008 05:32 AM
Seems like most religions they change the story to suit their own beliefs. I like weed, can I turn god into a ganja god who smoked a bong rather than wore a cross.

MSD 01-24-2008 06:26 AM
They said this morning that there were six prescriptions found and that he had the flu. At this point, I'd put my money on an OTC diphenhydramine sleeping aid boosting the effects of a higher-than-prescribed dose of hydrocodone cough syrup (and possibly a painkiller) to the point that he just stopped breathing in his sleep.

ShaniFaye 01-24-2008 06:34 AM
MSD thats a scary thought....I suffer from chronic bronchitis so Im always taking that form of cough syrup with tyelnol pm (or goody's pm)

MSD 01-24-2008 07:20 AM
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MSD thats a scary thought....I suffer from chronic bronchitis so Im always taking that form of cough syrup with tyelnol pm (or goody's pm)
On the positive side, a regular dose of non-APAP hydrocodone syrup with one Benadryl gives a hell of an opiate buzz.

Nikilidstrom 01-24-2008 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by silent_jay
Seems like most religions they change the story to suit their own beliefs. I like weed, can I turn god into a ganja god who smoked a bong rather than wore a cross.
You're doing the work of saint by remaining a leafs fan, so I think god can forgive you a little herbal relaxation. :)

silent_jay 01-25-2008 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nikilidstrom
You're doing the work of saint by remaining a leafs fan, so I think god can forgive you a little herbal relaxation. :)
I know, it's bringing me back to the Ballardian times of the 80's, oh shit I hope things don't get that bad, it was ruthless when I was a kid going to school and the Leafs sucked that much.

Miss Mango 01-26-2008 11:44 AM
Listen to Shirley Phelps-Roper speak.

I hope they arent able to find out anything about the funeral.

Baraka_Guru 01-26-2008 12:25 PM
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I just did. :sad:

Hain 01-26-2008 12:28 PM
I would find it [insert word here] if the WBC went to funeral and protested, and then were stoned to death by Heath Ledger's fans.

Yes I am evil at times. I would be heart broken that such senseless violence occurred... but that demon that lurks in the dark corner of my reptilian brain would still be laughing with its nearly silent hissing.

PonyPotato 02-06-2008 03:55 PM
Don't know if anyone is interested in the results of the toxicology:

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20176256,00.html

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The New York City medical examiner reported on Wednesday (Feb. 6) that actor Heath Ledger died of an accidental overdose of prescription drugs, according to multiple reports. In a statement, the examiner said he died ''as the result of acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam, and doxylamine.'' Those are the generic names for drugs often marketed as brand name painkillers OxyContin and Vicodin, the anti-anxiety medications Valium and Xanax, the sleep aid Restoril, and the sedating antihistimine sleep aid Unisom. There was no explanation for why the death was determined ''accidental.''

highthief 02-06-2008 04:27 PM
So, "death by stupidity" it is.

You have to be a fool to mix all that stuff and not think it might have a negative effect.

YaWhateva 02-06-2008 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by highthief
So, "death by stupidity" it is.

You have to be a fool to mix all that stuff and not think it might have a negative effect.
He probably hadn't been sleeping for some time which plays with your mind a lot. Also, the cast of his new movie they were filming said that he was really sick at the end of filming and they thought it might have been walking pneumonia. Shit happens. At least it wasn't suicide.


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