Stargate SG1/Atlantis (Caution: Spoilers)
 

It seems we have fans of everything else on this forum, but do we have any stargate fans?

I love stargate to peices, theres just something about it's complete tongue-in-cheek humor combined with situations that could so very easily be going on *out there* that we dont' know about that makes it so compelling to watch.
That mixed in with actors who just play their parts so well makes it so easy to see why it's so well aclaimed.

What are everyone elses views on it? How far have you seen into SG1, have you seen any Atlantis, and what do you think of it if so?

I've liked what they've done up to season 7, but they seem to be going the same way as star trek, getting better and better, but losing it in the last season. Although Jacks promotion to general has opened up some great new areas, and RDA plays the part so well, i do feel that the three man team, while generally unavoidable, has lost so much of what stargate is about, exploring the galaxy, finding new and interesting things, then blowing them up in a firefight with a baddy. :p
Unfortunatly, reading the episode guides for the rest of the series, only a few look like they'll really show off how good the show is.
As for season nine, i really really hope they don't screw it up...

I've seen every episode of both series. I have loved SG1 for a very long time. Unfortunatally, I am about ready to stop watching. The writing has been bland for both series since episode 2 or 3 for each this season. This next set of new episodes will decide the fate of the sci-fi channels top rated show.

I was a fan of the movie - never was able to latch on to the TV show with enough interest to get it on my radar... I do know that they must film in a studio somewhere near Venice Beach because when I lived there a few years back it seemed I was always meeting new people who worked on that show as set designers, costumes, etc. in the neighborhood - emphasis on the HOOD part if you haven't been there.

Hey Will - nice to you around...

i've seen every episode of sg1 (or just about every episode)
i love stargate but i agree that season 8 could've been much better.

as for atlantis, i've only seen a few episodes.. so i havent decided yet.

SG1- I think they have a great opportunity to use the new replicators. They really left it hanging after the opening of the season. I also think it's time for the Furlings (see Episode 'The Fifth Race') to enter the series. The storyline with government conspiracies was kidna done into the ground with the NID episodes.

Atlantis- Lets pick up the pace already!! The wraith are a very interesting and usable enemy. They are so strong that they almost wiped out the ancients, so why aren'tt they giving the Atlantis team more problems? I hope Atlantis doesnt become another Star Trek Voyager. "We're really far from home and we are dealing with big bad enemies on our own! We miss home!!" That was a real dissapointment IMO.

I've watched all of SG1 and Atlantis. Although I think they are dealing with RDA's promotion to General as best as possible, I don't like the direction that it has led the show. Instead of the four of them finding things out off-world there is too much of it happening at the SGC.

A lot of the interest I had in the show was generated from the neat settings and story. That's beggining to lag, it is starting to lose it's pizzaz and become more like a mediocre sunday afternoon fantasy/sci-fi show. Not to mention the enemy, led by my second favorite star trek engineer, is rather lame. They're none too bright.

i think since jack was promoted to general, they should bring jonas back.
jonas did an awesome job in season 6. they can do so much more to the story if he was there.

Thats actually a damned good idea, i loved jonas, he provided the show with such a great new light, and i loved the way Corin Nemic gave the character that 'excited about everything attitude', it really helped bring back the shows lighter side after daniels 'death'.

i like jack. i think even though he is general he should still go on some missions with them...come on only 3 people venturing out every week...im still surprised they never had any of the original Stargate movie cast members make cameos on the show as different roles.

im pretty lazy... but um... can one of you guys tell me the email address to sg1's writers.
i'd like to tell them the jonas idea.. even though they probably already considered it, if enough people wrote about it, they might bring him back.

the shit's probably already written, filmed and produced. Itwould be too late now even if they did like the idea but hadn't thought of it.

Visit www.gateworld.net or www.scifi.com (and look for the SG1 site), one of those must have the adress, i'd go with gateworld.

Crossova, they had skaraa and kasuf, played by the same actors, several times on SG1, but i still think they should have Kurt Russel come back, would be amusing :crazy:

I am a huge fan of Stargate: SG1...

To be honest, I haven't been much keeping up with the newer episodes, nor the Atlantis spinoff, so I can't really comment about them.

The few that I have seen have been a bit disappointing, I hate how they promoted Jack to General.

Also, is anyone else struggling with the fact that Tilc has hair?

I am really, really hoping that the show continues on with the same (or better) quality found in the first many seasons - hopefully this one is just a bump in the long, long road ahead.

Watched up to season 7 of SG1 and I love it. Can't say the same about Atlantis though. Episodes 1-10 were pretty good but 11-14 were pretty stale and boring. I heard 15 was good so im looking forward to seeing that EP.

Haven't seen any of the new season of SG1. Any new characters or enemies?

Baal is the Big Goa'uld on campus now, and we have the 'Trust' as the earth baddies (replacing the NID and their secret cronies), but other than that, there arn't really that many new characters.


After watching the new episodes of SG1 last night, i seems to me it's become a victim of it's own sucess. Now it is such a hugely rated show, the network has stepped in to really try and push it to as many markets as possible, and the writers are really starting to lose touch (such as jaffa using 'gate instead of cha'pa'ai [sp] when talking about the stargate) with what the show is all about.
Hopefully atlantis, with the two big boy directors from SG1, will take up the slack and show us that the franchise still works.

in comparison to previous seasons, season 8 has lost its touch to what sg1 is.

season5,6,7 were incredible imo. 8 is all story, barely any action.....

Season Nine update: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2004/1...argatesg.shtml


Ben Browder, of Farscape fame, will be joining SG1 as a regular cast member in season nine.

Hot damn! I hope he gives it some much needed life. :thumbsup:
Still feel better with Jack on the team, but this could be good, provided he's a good guy.

Long live Stargate! He will definantly add even more depth to the show.

IS anyone excited about the new Stargate game that will feature voice acting from the cast?

http://www.stargate-thealliance.com/main.php?lang=en

On the Stargate: Atlantis front I have just watched episode 15 and it was much better than the past 4. Hopefully the rest of the season gets better and better. Just wish they would move the story along!

OMG I can't wait to see Chriton on SG1!! I was really bummed about Faarscape being cancelled, and I really enjoyed The Peacekeeper Wars. Hopefully they will let his character shine in a major way. I'll be the first to call "spinoff" when he starts getting his own storylines.

Another update: Claudia Black (also of farscape fame) is back for more episodes during season nine, and Ben Browder will be joining SG1 (the team).

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2004/1...ackisbac.shtml

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2004/1...ersisg-1.shtml


Damn, i hope they pull this season off, because although they've got some great actors coming in, it's all too easy to just rely on them to get the viewers and go lax when it comes to actual storylines like this season...

I watched the season finale of SG-1 last night. Those last two episodes were a pretty anti-climatic way to end the season. Especially after the way the previous episodes were going. They build up so much about which direction each of the SG-1 team memebers were going and then just forgot about it. Weird.

We have pictures of the new cast members on the show! Yey!

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2005/0...hellland.shtml

Daniel has a beard too, could be interesting...

Oh man, that looks awesome, stevie667. Thanks for the link.
Too bad Richard Dean Anderson is leaving the show.

He'll be in the first two episodes, but it looks like from then on he'll be doing what Don S. Davis did and only do odd spots.

Season premiers for SG-1 and Atlantis are tonight. Just to let everyone know

some good stuff...at least in atlantis. ford as a bad guy should be a very interesting twist. better than killing him off, but still changes plot lines. they still need to work on pacing, but over all a solid entry to the season.

was very dissapointed with SG1. i think this one's jumped the shark. the new team seems like it's going to lack the original chemistry...and there seems to be a lack of purpose.

I just started watching this due to my SO's addiction to it. I've seen season 1 of SG-1 and season 1 of Atlantis, as well as odd episodes of SG-1. I don't like the more recent episodes of SG-1 as they are severely lacking in Richard Dean Anderson and Don S. Davis, and I enjoy them immensely.

I haven't watched more of Atlantis (SG-1 is taking up our Netflix queue at the moment) but I'll be glad to see more of it when I can.

I've loved the show for qutie awhile now. Seen pretty much every episode. My sister is an even bigger fan and has all the dvds. I like atlantis as well, but the thing willravel said about voyager is so true. Hopefully it won't turn into that.

It does suck that jacks basically gone, but the actor couldnt keep up the times he was doing because of his kids.

The new people cladia black and...forget his name are favorites of mine from Farscape. So that works out for me, but as far as keeping the original flavor of SG1 its not really working out.

Well with the Deadelus at Atlantis, they can now go back and fourth between pegasus and milky way without too much difficulty. I suspect that now Atlantis is more in danger of becoming redundant. How many cast members can we turn into wraiths?
Ben Browder (aka Chriton from Farscape). The last half of the seasons seemed kinda spread thin and disconnected. I'm willing to stick throught it, though, because the Ori are an interesting variable. Also, Sam is in love with a 12 year old. That's pretty funny.

Actually he's not really leaving the show, he decided to take the backseat for it in order to spend more time with his family. Kinda similar to what Amanda Tapping is doing but it's undecided at this point how much of a role he is going to play once in awhile.

I have all 8 season on DVD and I absolutely love the show. I only wish Space Channel would stop showing reruns of Season 1-3 and start showing the latest stuff

By the way: Gateworld actually has a transcript of all of the episode up to season 8 and some for season 9. I haven't seen either of Hero Pt1 and Pt2 and I'm afraid to considering...

I haven't seen any of the new Atlantis, so no comment there

Season nine is looking good so far, but i think that SG1 is moving away from its roots. We need the team to be put back in their place as younglings (remember the good ol' asgard eps in the first few seasons with the wonderful music?), or something not so doom and gloom to happen.
It has become comercialised to an extent, it has to of been to have stayed sucessful for this long, but i don't want the series to lose the ideas from where it came.

Atlantis on the other hand rules. Reminds you of the startings of sg1, but with more cool stuff.

Atlantis? where is that showing? I only see the same old re-runs of SG1 (and always the same episode at the same point ... you know. MacGyver is being shot by a bunch of Egyptians..

Depends on what kind of television service you have. If you have SciFi, then it'll be a new episode on Friday evening (6 pacific, 9 eastern, I believe). I'm not sure about Space Channel, but I'm sure some of your fellow Canadians will help you oot there.

haha, forgot about that. They probably won't do anything with that though. It will be like Jack's kid clone, never mentioned past 1 or 2 eps.

Nope, Space Channel never shows new episode, they play reruns everyday at 11am and 6pm. However, if you're subscribed to rogers network, you can see some new espiode on Warner Bros channel on Monday morning at 12am for Atlantis and 1am for SG-1. Some CITY channel shows new SG-1 episode once in awhile.

In that case, you might just consider going the DVD route. I have Battlestar on DVD and I've never been happier. The nice thing is that television series DVD prices drop almost immediatally, including SG1/Atlantis.

Space shows new episodes of season 9 (I think we are season behind) on Thursdays at 10pm Toronto time (which would be 8pm Alberta time).

New episodes of Atlantis are only available on The Movie Network (in Eastern Canada) and Movie Central (in Western Canada) both are premium pay TV services.

Atlantis season one is supposed to start on Space this month.

Yup, that's why I have the first 8 season of Stargate :)

Spoiler: Get this: You guys know all about the Great Four Alliance that included the Asgards, Ancient, Nox and the Furlings. It was mentioned on another Stargate based website that the Furlings will be revealed in the tenth season and will be related to the eventual defeat of the Ori. Just as the Ancients help defeat the Goa'uld and Tau'ri helping Asgard defeat the replicators

I absolutely love how O'Neill has concluded that the Furlings must be cute and cuddly creatures like the Ewoks

F00kin' sorted!

I'm not liking season 9. It just doesn't click like it used to. I do like atlantis though.

hmmph. I have a tough time justifying the cost of the cable that I do subscribe to. I managed to get Discovery chanel after "discovering" it on my trip out east (hotel rooms have all the cable!)

and in the process have discovered the wonders of Showcase! (television without borders). But that's it. $40 is enough topay for cable.

Well, long time no post in here.

I'm waiting for the new season to hurry up and get its ass here, reading the stuff coming out of gateworld just makes it worse!

first post here, I'm a huge fan of the stargate series, nowadays I just DL the episodes instead of watching them on tv.

Is that illegal? I sort of see it as since i'm paying for the episodes anyways, I may as well keep them around.

anyways I'm loving season 9. There just wasn't much more for the original 4 to do without becoming totally bland and fading away. The introduction of Ben Browder has been great, I loved how they incorporated him in the new episodes through humour.

The interrelation between atlantis and SG1 has been hard to get used to. I'll probably have to go through the two series together once the atlantis episodes finish downloading to get a full picture of the plot. Too much "solution in the other series" stuff going on in my opinion. Muddles the independence of both shows.

Atlantis has been picked up by City-TV (regular cable) and I've been enjoying the season so far. I believe it is the first season. I think that the character development has been great. I really really like the interplay between Sheppard and McKay. McKay is without a doubt the most interesting character. I love his impatient sarcasm, and constant banter between him and the rest of the team (Sheppard: "don't tell McKay that I said that about hockey. He's Canadian, they're touchy about that"). I can see Richard Dean Anderson's touch in this.

What I don't get are the shoulder patches of the different 'origin' countries of the team. At first they were quite evident, while in later episodes, they seem to be cgi'd out leaving colour matched rectangles on the spots. What gives? Did some network execute get complaints about too much "un-Americanism"?

At any rate, I am tryly enjoying the series, and would love to hear the back story to the Wraith, their origin, and reason for their conquest of humans.

Is everyone ready for tonight? Popcorn/pizza ready? Phones unplugged? Remots handy?

Damnit!! Was tonight the new season start-up?

:X

Well it was a marked improvement over both of the show's last seasons. I will now be watching both for he rest of the season. Also, thanks again to Atlantis for bringing back Trip from the ashes of Enterprise.

Stargate SG-1Spoiler: Well that's odd, a little girl/demigodess who is part Ori, and part conservative pundit. I was waiting for Hanity to chime in about how te Ori administration has defended the galaxy from terrorism. Everyone is still alive, though Te'alc was routinely tortured (how much can this guy take?), Daniel rung off the People's Deadulus, Carter flated for a bit, and Crichton...er I mean Mitchell got to one of the fighters, and Jack is still retired (D'oh!). The Ori are still invincable, although their shields and sensors were a bit dissapointing letting Daniel through. At the end of the episode, I was left with a feeling of anxoius anticipation. 4 out of 6 stargates

Stargate Atlantis: Spoiler: WOW!!! I couldn't stand last season - though I watched it anyway - but this season is really showing substantial improvement. I can now see a link in the qualities between the gate-shows. Although I was initially pissed at the destruction of the Orion, I got over it when I realized that we get to have a hive ship all for ourselves. I was also very excited to see that Connor Trinneer, aka Michael, aka Trip from Enterprise, is back and on the winning team (if only for a moment). I was pleasently surprised by this show, which is no longer on my long list of "sci fi shows that threw away great potential in favor of tired sci fi cliches". Welcome to me "momentarily vindicated sci fi series" list. 4 out of six gates.

You should know Teal'c is a HeMan DemiGod by now:thumbsup:

Looks like it will be a good season!

Spoiler: OMG REPLICATORS!!!!!!!!!

willravel

I was bummed that we lost the Orion. Barely got to explore that. They didn't seem to care at all. As far as the hive ship. . . way too tidy the way that they have totally gotten rid of just about every story line from last season. It is like they got all new writers who wanted nothing to do with last season's stuff. Not happy about that.

SG1 - Last week was . . . crappy. I think it was an isolated incident. . .

Mondak, agreed. The Orion was simply too good to be true. Atlantis will take a great concept and ruin it. Having a real Ancient warship functioning and with squiddies was a great concept. They had a ship that should have been able to take out several hive ships at once (remember that the Ancients were technologically advanced compared to the Wraith, but they were simply greatly outnumbered). It was destroyed by two hive ships even with the assistence of the Daedalus. Ugh.

Then we have last week....the replicators are a great enemy!!! Leave it to Atlantis to muck it up. If they had any balls whatsoever, they would have let the Benedict Arnold replicator survive and assist Atlantis against the wraith. That would have kicked ass, but it's too creative for Atlantis. I'm starting to think that the collective creativity of the network is funneled into Battlestar and Battlestar alone.

This week loos like it is going to be really funny for SG1, but who knows?

I am okay with all creative energy being funneled to BSG BTW will.

eff October. . .

SG1 got cancelled! Cancelled!

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2006/0...d_iatlan.shtml

Uh, we've known for awile now...SG1 Cancelled Thread
...and yeah it is disappointing, but the series had a good run.

I stand corrected, but i've just got back from holiday, so i'm still out of the loop per se.

Ok so I have to vent here.

If those "Ancients" turn out to be replicators, I am going to freak the hell out. I mean what - didn't anyone even think to ask, "are you guys replicators?" at any point? I mean what is the hurt in asking. It is like - "hey - funny thing here, we ran into some replicators a couple weeks ago and they looked like and claimed to be Ancients. YOU guys don't HAPPEN to be freaking replicators do you???"

Nah - lets just hand over our city without even having the thought cross our mind. I mean are there only four story lines that they have these days? Which four you ask:

1. Rodney freaks out on someone who suggests he could be wrong and ignores their warning. Instead the entire Universe may colapse due to forgetting to carry the one in a calcualtion . . .

2. Kirk Effs the green girl

3. WE'RE UNDER ATTACK FROM THE WRAITH AND WE DON"T HAVE ENOUGH POWER

4. It wasn't just a dream / costume / ancient / etc. It is just replicators up to their old tricks again.

I pray to all that is holy that those are / were real ancients that they handed the city to. If not - I think I am off the sauce.

Any one else?

Oh yeah - I know that was the season finale for SG1, but was it also the finale to Atlantis?

BTW - I don't like use of the spoiler tag in this case since i would think that it is your fault if you are reading this thread and have not seen the most recent episode. . .

I was thinking the exact same thing. Atlantis is useless.

On the up side, General O'Neil has the Ancient gene so he can't be killed by the Pegasus replicators. If O'Niel died, heads would roll.

So who thinks the Ori are going to win?

I was thinking the same thing Mondak. And if they are real ancients I don't see how they should get their place back...its no longer their place if they've been gone 10,000 years.

I really doubt the ori will win. I think daniel will regain some of his ascended powers and use the sangral (sp?) to take em out.

Also, in the sg1 ep. did anyone else wonder why they wouldn't kill off the Ori leader chick? It would be the perfect time to take her out when she doesn't have her powers, all she has is that shield. All they'd have to do is have teal'c pick her up and throw her off into that chasm.

It'll probably be the Merlin weapon. *yawn*
1) She's really hot.
2) They have to be the "good guys".
3) Teal'c was too busy being tortured.

If I had a dime for every time Teal'c was tortured...

Tortured? No I meant in the most recent episode, she was deviod of ori powers in that place (because of the ancients I guess) and teal'c wasnt being tortured, he was standing right next to em. (In the chasm with the dragon).
I get why they dont kill her off story/tv wise but I meant the actual characters of sg1. Early on they even all agreed that they'd try to find a way to take her out fist, before she could get the weapon and kill them. Then daniel figures out she doesnt have any powers, he should have pushed her off right then (and he's even shown his willingness to kill her even as a child in an earlier episode) but he doesn't, he grabs for the sangral which turns out to be a halogram and triggers the dragon instead.

I know, I was kidding.

Ah, funny. :)

Classic. We'd also be rich if we got money for every time Daniel died or Carter got laid in an alternate universe.

/jack

That being said - Zeraph the chic was still hella strong wasn't she? I mean that gate with the kid behind it slid right up when she helped. As far as being the good guys, they did try to shoot her and all (then they found out she had that convienient sheild. It is crap that that worked and everything else did not. Totally weak.

Oh yeah - and I would like to point out that that I would do Vala whatever her name is:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8...spromo1jr1.jpg

The one who is not Ben. Claudia Black.

/threadjack

We left one of the basic story lines out Mondak:

Look! We finally have some technology that will give us an advantage! But there's a catch..../ BOOM.

The catch is usually something that is Rodney's fault though so that is where I put that one. They all lick Rodney's balls for saving them, but they never beat his ass for effing things up in the first place.

Speaking of: where did this fear of citrus come from? Has there been previous instances of this? How does Kirk fit that in his skin tight uniform without having a big lemon shaped bulge that would give it away?

Not sure how many people have heard of this, but Atlantis has been axed :(. However at least they know now and they're allowed to carry out the rest of the season. On a better note though, the new Stargate series, titled Universe, has been given the green light and is expected to premiere in early 2009 with a 2-hour movie.

Stargate: Atlantis cancellation - TV.com: Sci Fi sinks SG Atlantis
Stargate: Universe - Stargate Universe

Gah. I'll admit that I'm not the biggest Atlantis fan, but the writing has been picking up, culminating in Friday's episode which was a brilliant adaptation of the themes present in sci-fi classics like Flowers for Algernon. It was damned good TV.

The same thing happened with Enterprise: as soon as the writing takes a huge turn for the better, it gets canceled.

Universe sounds too much like Voyager. Hopefully it will get better writing.

I can usually let the writing slide during anything Stargate. I'll admit I'm kind of biased towards it a little since I love it so much, but its not atrocious. I just love the humor that's always so present in anything Stargate, mixed with the formula for the show. Just makes for a good hour of tv :)

While Universe sounds OK, I just don't understand why Atlantis was canceled. It seemed to be doing fine...sigh. I'm not absolutely in love with the show, but the Stargate shows are sentimental favorites and I'm kinda depressed to see Atlantis end.

P.S. Rodney McKay is the best character in either Stargate show and I'm very much going to miss him.

ditto on the Rodney sentiments. Without him, the show would have been a 2 dimensional cut out space opera.

Of course, because they need more room for extra episodes of Ghost Hunters, Scare Tactics, and reruns of all the other shows that they have canceled.

I can't stand Ghost Hunters. Not once, in two series spanning several seasons, have they provided any verifiable evidence. Why do people watch it?

Maybe SciFi is dumping all it's $$ into BSG?

Rodney McKay is my Canadian hero. Really he is the only reason I've kept watching, and the thing I will miss about SGA.

Atlantis has been on Space for at least 3 seasons now.

Anybody heard anything about SGA's replacement series, Stargate: Universe?

All I know is what I've read on Attack of the Show's chiron scroll.
SGA is ending the first part of January '09, then a two hour series premiere plays a little bit later.

Here is the synopsis from the website so far.

sounds okay, but will they have a funny Canadian guy and a foxy American woman? Some pretty asian talent would also go a long way to making this show a success...

All I have to say is I'd like to put a little captain in her...
http://image.com.com/tv/images/proce.../ff/218232.jpg

That said, that's not all I have to say LOL. I was a fan of SG-1 from the beginning and hated to see if go, but the storyline played itself out. Oh well. SGA has been mediocre until recently (I guess) but I stayed with it since I'm just such a loyal fan. Not sure on the whole universe bit coming up, but whatever.

Oh and one more pic for your pleasure.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...wel_staite.jpg

Re-watching Stargate SG-1 for the billionth time.
While Samantha Carter is hands-down my favorite character, I seem to enjoy most the episodes that feature Teal'c on Earth. For instance, the episode entitled "Bane" - season 2 episode 10 - where he interacts with inner-city youth, his dialogue with the little girl and his eventual gift of a super soaker "with increased range and firepower."

Then there's the ever-memorable line from "1969" - season 2 episode 21- when asked about the meaning behind his gold tattoo he responds, "Slavery. To false gods."

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ky...o10_r1_500.jpg
Yeah, Teal'c is a priceless part of the show.