My advice, enjoy the game. Find a guild that does what you want to do (PvP, Raid, or just do random things as a group). if you get a guild that tries to tell you how you need to spec your toon, tell them to take a leap, or make them start paying for your WoW supsciption. And if you get a raid that tries to make WoW a second job( "You HAVE to be on a 5 o'clock server time for a quild run" ) Find a new guild. It's about haveing fun. Pretty simple. I have never done an end game raid, and I never will most likely. Anytime anyone tries to tell me how to play, I /gquit. Just enjoy yourself and look for like minded people.

My raid guild has set raid times but you don't have to go everyday if you don't want to, but the better your attendance and DKP rating the more epic gear you get.

If you want to raid seriously, you're going to need to spec a certain way, that's really just the bottom line. A raid full of BM hunters, fury warriors, feral druids, shadow priests, SoF rogues and ret pallies is simply incapable of taking down the high end raid content. Ever since we killed KT, people have been changing spec and it's gotten DRAMATICALLY harder to get things done in Naxx because of that.

What Seer said is still true, play to have fun. Understand, though, that if hardcore raiding is what is fun for you, and you're a healer or a warrior, in particular, you might have to spec in way that is not your preference in order to do it.

I'm just taking a break from WoW till BC. I raided for a year straight (I missed 1 BWL run in a year) and now I'm barely playing at all until BC comes out. I highly doubt I'll raid in BC, but I'll definitely be playing a lot (I hate how raiding requires you to be at your PC 3+ nights per week no matter what).

My guild is falling apart due to me and 3 other core raiders taking a break until BC comes out. I sort of feel bad, but part of me is just saying "oh well." I can't help Blizzard decided to trivialize raiding before BC comes out, but it looks like the effects of it started a huge chain reaction.

im proud to announce i went to a guildies house last night and he'd bought a box of the trading card game.... in the last pack of the box was the turtle mount! we proceeded to stick it on his 21 dwarf hunter twink in progress and walk around ironforge. it was hilarious. i'll try to get some ss's we took posted up in this space. i don't know how close he is to being the first in the game but im pretty sure he's the first on our server and battlegroup :D

So uhh.. how is the card game? Not that I am interested in becoming a consumer, but I do wonder if they could make a competent CCG.

Please do share pics of the mount!

He has a mount at lvl 21?

It's as fast as running speed.

well, i didn't play the game... but the art was cool, there were quests and spells taken from the game, and it looked to me a lot like magic the gathering with more an emphasis on creatures, or heroes as they called them.

oh thats no fun.

At the moment, mainly have Alliance characters. Highest one I have is lvl 7 (please don't laugh).

What server are you on?

it's a turtle

Lol good point, but the kodo's can move quick

I presume that mount's speed will increase to match his highest level of riding skill. That is, when he gets level 40 riding skill the mount will move at 160% run speed, when he gets epic riding skill, it will move at 200% run speed. Not that the mount is the expensive part anymore anyway, but it's still a neat little thing to have.

Daggerfall, with Horde. You can't have both alliance and horde on the one PvP server though :(

You guys are gonna hate me but the CTS dropped again last night....and Nef dropped 2 rogue chests...gay!

Here's my first video. Stupid hunter tricks.

http://www.beautifulproject.com/catapultkites.wmv

Yea, the random loot system is pretty amusing at times. We've had 2xBloodfang off Ragnaros for two or three weeks, every week for the past month Chromaggus has dropped the Taut Dragonhide Belt and Shoulders, etc.

Meanwhile, another guild on our server has 7 Ashkandis in 3 months of killing Nefarian. We've had zero, so go figure.

By the way, very cool video Halx - I love seeing hunters kiting mobs around to kill them. A friend of mine and I had been slacking for a while, but over the past week we've resumed kiting Teremus to Stormwind and terrorizing Goldshire. We're actually planning on taking Teremus to the Undercity some time this coming week, if we can plan out a route.

BL->SoS->Deadwind->Duskwood->Redridge->Burning Steppes->BRM->Searing Gorge->Badlands->Loch Modan->Wetlands->Arathi->Hillsbrad-Silverpine-Tirisfal->UC

If you can get him to Goldshire, you've got most of it down. The hard part is getting him through BS, BRM, SG without either getting ganked or getting other mobs on you.

Good luck, TAKE A MOVIE and have fun!

Greetings All,
I have a quick question for the rogues. I just rolled and have a question if not the eternal question: Daggers vs. Swords. I am lvl 13 and here are my thoughts thus far: Duel wielding swords I kill things much faster but I lose out on Backstab and other stealthed ablities. Basically I run up like a warrior/shaman/etc to a mob and kill it. I rarely if ever stealth with swords. Granted, I am new to the class so I might be a complete noob at this. I was wondering if an experienced rogue could share his/her thoughts, expereiences? Thanks

You're leveling. Leveling is a grind. Make the grind easier. Swords.

To echo what you and Hal said:

Swords=PvE
Dagger=PvP

Thaddius down last night. I made a video.
http://www.beautifulproject.com/Thaddius1.wmv

Much congratulations. Looks like a pretty clean kill. Just need to beef up the DPS a little bit so you can kill him about 15 seconds faster.

Ok i got 60 rogue but that makes me to pro at it (im a mage master), but my rogue uses duel daggers in a PvE server, with tons of Agility and Stam + a little attack power and she crits like mad, but thats just my playing style. I tried duel swords and Dagger+Sword but the sneeky rogue is my style, so what ever way you like playing build your Character that way. Might take a couple re-specs but once you get in your groove your set:thumbsup:

From me to you, I don't think the problem is DPS. I mean, sure, personally, if I had used more consumables, I could have been doing a bit more damage, but I wouldn't have made the difference. I think the positioning is the problem. Most strategies I've seen direct people to move in one direction, straight to their next position. Our strategy requires two movements. I was suggesting using the 90 degree strategy that you see in most videos because the simple act of getting into position would cut 2 or 3 seconds of of every transition and would beef up the DPS significantly.

I too like the sneaky rogue.

As you grow, you will discover your playing style. You're level 13. You have time to explore both sword and dagger styles. You have time to mess around with gear and specs, and see what you like best. Like I said, I love my sneaky rogue--she's a level 49, by the way.

I sort of look at the first 59 levels as a probationary period. The game doesn't really start for me until I hit 60. Though, with my hunter, I'm making every effort to create challenges for myself along the way, I still see it as a grind to 60. I can't wait to play at 60.

Burning Crusade Honor System to come in next patch on public servers






One of our users (Aryzel) posted a very interesting and instructive report about the Burning Crusade Honor System to come in the next patch before the expansion.

Aryzel - Blizzard have said there will be a patch before the expansion, it might not be called 1.13, but really who cares about names. Note that like all things blizzard, this is very tentative until it actually happens :P Some things that Blue posters have implied will be in the patch so far.

What 1.13 WILL NOT contain:
No Drenai,
No Blood Elfs,
No Outlands,
No Arena PVP
No leveling up


What 1.13 WILL contain:
New Talents, the full 41 point talent trees, and talent reset.
New PVP Honour System...

http://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1076



Thought you guys might like to know that a reputable site that has never been wrong in the past has just released info that the new honor system and new 41-point talents are going to be implemented before BC is actually released. The amount of time required to get Grand Marshal/High Warlord gear is significantly decreased and now requires Marks of Honor and honor points instead of raw honor. Check the links for the juicy info.

Hmmm, yeah, that would certainly do it. Your strategy is QUITE a bit safer than the running straight strategy, though. If one person fucks up in the line strat (that is the one we use) and it's followed by a chain lightning on the side where the person bombed, it's pretty much a wipe. I know nothing about the 90 degree strat, but that is definitely the most common that I've seen most guilds use to good success. I think people will continuously improve at doing the motions, so there will be increasingly less time lost due to moving around.

Either way, it will become less important as you keep killing him since your DPS should continue to increase as people get better and better gear. On a side note, what were your loots?

2 war/rogue helms and the castigator, taken by the MT to go with his fury gear. I think I'm next in line for a beefy 2h weapon, so here's hoping Severance or CUM drops.

By the way, how smooth your computer runs WoW makes me want to cry. In that fight, my computer is having a shitfit and I spent most of the time praying I don't lag out and blow people up. We've only seen one or two severances, but we had really good luck with getting dark edges, so most of the warriors that want an axe have DEoI anyway. Definitely seen more than our fair share of CUMs, though. Those go for min to whoever wants one. Wish I'd waited to get mine, though, since I definitely overpaid. Oh well.

I'm fiending for a DEoI, but we haven't killed C'thun. In fact, we've only touched AQ40 once in the last 5 weeks. I really really really want that weapon.

And yeah.. the new computer is a fuckin beast. That video was taken originally at 1600x1200, recording 60 frames per second.

To sum it up, I can multitask like crazy and experience almost no slowdown with the exception of disk reading and rendering conflicts. One night, I forgot to close out Hitman: Blood Money after I minimized it, and I raided Naxx and.. totally did not notice a difference.

Great video. Plus, I love your interface! We had someone do the exact something thing when we downed Thaddius for the first time. Fucking rogue popped Sprint chanting in glee nearly wiped the entire raid. Thanks again for the vid!

I was playing AV with my lvl 52 hunter today. It was hilarious. Now, first you say, "Dude, don't even queue for AV until you hit 60, you're only hurting the game." However, I beg to differ! I was doing everything in my power to contribute to the game!

Got 17kbs, and only 8 deaths. Played defense most of the time, making sure the base was held down.

In one hilarious sequence, there was a priest in our tower, trying to cap it. I ran up to him and set a freezing trap to stun him, then recapped the tower. I ran away and he hit it again... and I ran up to him again and froze him. This kept repeating... he didn't seem to want to chase after me when I ran away. Eventually I couldn't stun him for long enough due to diminishing returns, however by then, the stream of text "East Frostwolf Tower is under attack by the Alliance." "East Frostwolf Tower has been taken by the Horde." over and over and over had gotten the attention of my teammates and he was then mobbed and killed. I was laughing my ass off the entire time.

See, you dont have to be 60 to do your job in AV. I just wish I had the sense to capture it on video 'cause it woulda made for a great show.

If you know what you're doing in AV and you're not 60 yet I wouldn't have a problem. It's just the morons that rushed into Field of Strife or whatever it was called, to die over and over and have a stalemate. I never did like AV though, I just got exalted ASAP for my mount and TUF and got the hell outta there. World PvP > BG, imo!

funny thing, with my 60 mage, I never (ever) won an AV, not once. He is exalted, and has the off hand (tome of the icelord) from there, and I never plan on taking him back inside. Now, with my 57 druid, I have never lost an AV. Not once. I have the cold forged hammer, and I should be honered by tonight. It's a strange turn of events that has made AV so alliance favored, on bleeding hollow, before the battle groups, alliance never won. Now, it seems, if we don't win, it's either 21 vs 40, or 20 alliance AFK.

I would like to add that 50-59 AB is fun. No epic mounts anywhere, and killing lvl 50 locks makes my heart happy.

Hal, this picture makes me happy in my pants. Also note that the mage Xanthus joinied us a little ways in that WSG match.

Ugh, I have just experienced my first real amount of guild drama while rolling on my Devout set (ya I know it's crap compared to a lot of your other stuff) and that totally makes me just not want to play anymore. That stuff is ridiculous.

FINALLY!!!!!

Don't hold your breath :)

so the expansion ALONE is going to cost 40 bucks? can someone explain to me why that is not crazy? I guess it's the fact that millions of people are going to pay it anyway. then can someone explain to me why that doesn't make those millions of people crazy? even sony never tried something like that.

Wawaweewah.. 7.5 million subs..

That's because Sony spits out expansions every 6 months and Blizzard hasn't released a single one yet. They give out content for free every content patch (usually a lot of stuff) and then have one major expansion instead of adding miniscule details to the game for $19.99 every few months. I remember when EQ2 came out that an expansion for it already released like 3 months after it debuted. 3 months?? Having expansions come out twice a year for $19.99 is just the same as having 1 expansion come out after TWO years for $39.99. Most MMOs have expansions way more distributed than WoW.

*EDIT*

Wow, it's way worse than I thought. EQ2 is on the virge of releasing their THIRD expansion, with 3 "Adventure Packs" already released. That makes 6 buyable content expansions compared to WoW's 1.

that's true, I guess I'm really thinking about back in the day when EQ was still actually on roughly one expansion per year, and I guess they had some expansions in the range of $30 too. still, I would expect a metric buttload of content with the expansion, like as much as the original game for the same or nearly the same price, so maybe it'll be different. you'll have to excuse me, any talk about Blizzard's and Vivendi's money gets me fired up.

Lasereth, Thanks for the link for the pvp info!

The biggest complaint I had and many people have about WoW is the lack of content. You really can't fault a company for putting out content.

Of course you can't. That's not the debate. The debate is whether charging $40 for 1 expansion every 2 years is fair. Yes, it is. I'm all for expansions and add-ons, but complaining about the price of them when they're so far apart isn't fair.

content schmontent. I'd even go so far as $/hr entertainment it's by far the best value.

even at $39.99 and $168/year you are hard pressed to find something that can give you as much entertainment hours for just over $200

Wow....warriors got hit in the face with the nerfbat next patch. Rage is now normalized. I tested it out in closed beta in BC, and my rage from a 1500 damage crit on cloth went from 45 to 20. A sad day indeed.

uh huh... makes me sad. They're totally shoving a red hot poker right down the throats of all 2h fury warriors too.

good! you guys need it. Warriors were waaaaay overpowered. Even in all epics, my mage still got 1-2 shot if I wasn't careful. You hit hard. You take a fuck ton of damage, and there is no way a caster can do anything about the damage you do to us, where as a mage/lock/priest/druid stands in stark contrast in the fact that you can wear +resistance gear and negate most of our damage. Where is the + physical resistance? Armor? on cloth? The mage barely has 1600 armor. which is at most 20% DR. Dodge maybe? again, no cloth with +dodge at endgame. I guess I could wear everyting "of the falcon" and get some swamp rings and necks "of eluding", but damn, i'd be one gimp ass mofo.

In conclusion nerf locks and warriors.

Crack,

Welcome to the new item stat "resilience" :) Reduces your chance to be crit, I believe.

the problem with warriors is they only become overpowered when they're epicced out. Think about all the non-epic warriors who this is gonna hurt REALLY bad who will be even more gimped then before.

The only time ANY warrior is overpowered is when he has extremely good gear and is attacked by 2+ people on the battlefield with a healer. Then shit gets a bit crazy. But anyone who attacks a warrior and not his healer is simply asking for it. :)

I just got this last night during a Hakkar takedown.

http://thottbott.com/?i=51823

Now I guess I have to PVP

So, I got the weapon I've been after. Claymore of Unholy Might. Its very nice. Too bad, though. I'm very close to quitting. Just got a job.

Last night was fucking horrendous. We were working on Loatheb. After we got the strategy down, we went to get world buffs. Nef head buff, Hakkar heart buff, northpass tower.. everything. I had 2300 AP, 7k health. When I got the Fungal Bloom buff, I had 96% crit. Mages were flasked and everyone was buffed to the teeth.

We had Loatheb to 45% at the first Doom.

Then, the server lagged out and 80% of the raid disconnected.

*cry*

Congrats on your big purple metal thingy! We can carve a swath through the horde sparkling together.

That's really rough on Loatheb, but at least you know you have the strat down. Just have to buff up again and take him down. And then hope that unseen forces drops.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...ace+commerical

Funny commercial

Cartoon Network's been running that commercial just about every break during Adult Swim.

I laugh every time.

ok, ok. Does anyone want to trade toons? I have a mage on a PvE server (elune) that I just don't play anymore. I would be willing to trade for a Priest or a Warrior or Pally with comparable gear. Just throwing that out there. If anyone is interested, send a PM and we can work out the details, if this is not allowed in my thread, then mods please delete.

link to gear:

http://ctprofiles.net/1925864

:D

I have a better idea. Sell you chars, make some $$$ and start playing Eve.

I still play my druid though! I don't want to get rid of him just yet...

Loatheb down.. here's the really boring video.

http://www.beautifulproject.com/Loatheb.wmv

Hello everyone, I'm currently trying out WoW due to that 10 day free trial. I normally play Guild Wars but its kinda been wearing thin lately. So far WoW is looking pretty good.

A couple questions though A) why does my display screen look so different than the ones I see in raid vids? Is it because I haven't joined a guild or been in a party yet?
B) Whats the cheapest place to buy a subscription at? I think I'd like to try out the game for more than just the intitial 10 day period they give.

Most people who raid use different GUIs for WoW, so their screen will look completely different than the average screen. I'm one of the few people who play WoW that use the default interface...I can't stand any of the UI mods. WoW is designed so that users can completely tear apart anything they want on the custom game screen and make it exactly how they want. It's rare to see two modded interfaces exactly the same.

Ok, that explains it then. Thanks much, now off to see if I can level my toon some. I'm only lvl 7 right now.

You can safely, happily and easily get to level 60 mod-free and you can really do all of the 5 man dungeons at 60 without any mods and never really know the difference. When you start raiding, there are a few mods that are all but required for purposes of keeping track of the raid and the various events the occur during boss fights so guilds often force you to dl one or two. At least for me, once I had one or two mods, I suddenly wondered what would happen if I had 3 or 4, then 9 or 10. The blizzard interface really isn't all that bad, it's just very space-inefficient. I want to see what's going on. I want to see my environment. Getting rid of all the extra art that clutters the action bars and map and unit frames and moving them did wonders for my ability to enjoy watching the game happen around me.

It's pretty much a personal preference, though.

Grats to Encore on Loatheb. Now you just have to go play with horsies!

Also another quick question (and I know this is gonna sound really noob-ish to a lot of you) As an alliance member, can I only randomly bitch-smack horde? or can I vent my rage on lower level alliance people too? and I mean just walking up to them and attacking, none of the duel stuff.

You cannot attack a member of your own faction without dueling.

I think you can only do that in the Arena in STV

This will also sound noobish, but being that I'm fairly noob lvl, I can take the hit:

Are there any guilds out there for people who aren't already lvl 60? I'm used to playing GW, where there are always guild invites and in WoW, I rarely see any, and if I do, it's gotta be lvl 60.

Any suggestions?

the guild recruitment channel has people looking for guilds in it. I logged on my mule the other day lvl 1, and someone sent me an invite to another guild so I joined, there were 3 members all under 20.

The new talents come out tomorrow along w/ the new pvp system. i think druids are actually the most changed.... i love what they've done with balance and the top of feral actually makes you compete with warriors and rogues.... looking forward to it going live.

New WOW player. Was an EQ1 Veteran and played though the end game of Planes of Power before calling it quits for good. I played EQ2 and didn't really get into it. I held off on playing anything for the past couple years. My friends kept telling WOW is different and that I will really like it. So far they were not wrong. Its different but I am enjoying it.

That said. I am a newb. and there are alot of things that I am getting used to. Is it needed at lower levels I am lvl 10, to group? I haven't found this to be an issue thus far and I find that the quests that I have been doing have really helped lvl rather than just the grind of kill kill kill kill mobs over and over!
I have 2 proffessions that I seem to enjoy. Skinning and Herbalism.

You can solo all the way to level 60 with any class. Or you can group at really any level. You'll need to group to do elite quests most of the time, and dungeon quests.. but regular quests can all be done solo.

Grouping and going into instances is the best way to get loot as you level. And when you log out you'll want to sit your character in an inn or inside a major city so you will get rested exp while you're offline to help you level faster. :)

Crusader strike = paladins are broken. K, I push a button now, and on top of my crazy random proc damage, I get to control when I may or may not land that 1.4k CS crit. thats not even buffed. :\

I played GW a lot too, good game.

You had trouble getting a guild? I got invited into one at lvl 7.... sometimes its just luck and meeting the right people.

There's a couple of paladins in my guild that could beat my warrior without healing BEFORE the patch. I'm REALLY scared of them now.

Ah patch day. I have been having a thrilling time trying to get all my mods updated and working again. THRILLING!

On the plus side, I can pump out some serious burst damage now with three instant shots. Arcane->multi->silencing is a delicious combination, especially against pesky priests, shamans and mages. Having a second interrupt makes a huge difference when fighting casters, you can't even beleive it.

I'm just now learning how to pvp with my hunter... I've got a long ways to go. I don't know if I can keep it up long enough to earn any of that gear.

The new patch is awesome, gonna see how 51 frost spec and water element do in BWL tonight :D

Heh.. my druid is now a very capable farmbot.. been farming twilight texts for a short while now.. I love mangle and imp lotp. I still wouldn't dream of PvPing with him until I can get Maim.

I hear rogues and warlocks own PvP now.

I'm undecided on whether to roll a Blood Elf Rogue or Warlock when the expansion releases. Probably going to go with Warlock though since I've never played a pure caster class. I've played a Shaman & Warrior at 60 in PvP.

If you've been having problems with FPS since patch, check out this link to the EJ forums. Might be helpful.

http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=9523

As a hunter, I specced 1 / 41 / 9 just to try out a 41 point talent.
Its not as great as I thought but I'll hold onto it until I hit 70 and then see what it will be like.
I still own clothies with one or two shots, even with their new builds..
Suxx to have every frigging shot on a 5+ sec cooldown..

I'm loving my hunter in the new patch, at least in pvp. I kill mages and warlocks with ease now. Druids are tough if they are feral and rogues/warriors are easy if I can kite them. Hunters mark, scatter shot, aimed shot, silencing shot, arcane shot, multishot dead.

PvE is going to take some getting used to though. I've only been on one raid so far but I run out of mana so quick. My mana never has a chance to regen with arcane shot on a 5 second cooldown and multishots mana cost was increased 50%. Next time I'll try using rank 1 for both, rank 1 arcane shot only costs 22 mana yet still does a fair amount of damage.

The new hunter nurf is killing us in BWL...well the first boss is a pain.

My 60 mage is speced 51 frost and im loving it :D

then I got my 60 rogue where I went 51 sub and omg so nice, im a sneaky kinda rogue never liked that combat spec, if I wanted to do some huge dmage I would roll a warrior.

I can't take the addon madness.... getting all my crap working again is killing me along with the constant worry that some of the mods will never work again :(

I love the new mage frost talents. Wish I could say the same for my Holy/Disc Priest. Resto Druids outheal us with Tree of GG. I might want to go Shadow again, maybe I will have some viability in raids now.

I love the new mage frost talents. Wish I could say the same for my Holy/Disc Priest. Resto Druids outheal us with Tree of GG. I might want to go Shadow again, maybe I will have some viability in raids now.

Just saw the cinematic preview for The Burning Crusade...I loved it.

Regarding the new talents, I love what they've done for the Hunter. I am able to do things now that I couldn't really do before. :)

Is it a new trailer or the old one from months ago?

How'd you see this already? It isn't supposed to world-premier until next Wednesday at the VGA's...

i was working with that group and got too busy to put up their FTP server and the exec producer never called me to say he really needed it.

o well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0WxrEmZlvE

Thank me later!

BTW Holy crap. I don't get how Blizzard makes these movies so perfectly.

I believe its the introduction cinematic to the Burning Crusades. I saw it at their holiday party, and I believe it does premiere at the Spike VGAs.

My roomie works for Blizzard! :)

Figures Blizzard takes that one down before I get to see it. Is it anywhere else?

Ya I wanna see this to..damn you tube is a target now.

GO!!!!!! GO I SAY!!!!!! TIME IS NAUGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNVH7wJncmI