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greebo 05-13-2006 07:42 PM

I need help
 
Is anyone here good with cryptograms? My friend put this up online and I can't for the life of me figure it out. If anyone could help me out that would be fantastic.

xsgmzjs uz czxqshs linu
5kolt5s lmjm mumj gwdod
!kprc!d wqp gigkscif
kb nrtp !iyis atf
mshhsm dgoq oqe mwas
pgrdsm dgoq oqe crce
plnv zvbqrxjqh robf bfulrovn
bhebua aobhh x bglnv ulq
bfg bhh rov elnhg wfve
svlshv bnv'r aqsslavg rl hllw zbmw
1'l ibxzv1meq muz tu1mt zu 1z vmqluxb
1 ivm'z cueg um bmuntc
3vjdj gdj ovj psf3zjsp fx rjpojdrjgd?
ovjdj 3gp zjedtp ts ovj gtd, fx qfkdpj
njogip gsz ijgajp
zkpo gsz gpv
+qim rihh htni w fviwx vwty
+qeklq +qiv rwhh xwvnif +qi iyf er w fviwx
rhk ofnh do cri rbb plsf idpgbne
vfnen'i nldb?
do'i ofro bremn greo jz nlneaprh
ofro vrhoi oj fron vdofjxo bdpdo
udvu hvaun uj dvux pbud ejk ja bun nbkx
b pvb udxd, ujj
sru mxiqxlugw batbnbsgx
vak b pvau udx nxvnjan
vgg udx nxvnjan vu jalx
txiq pxgg, b pbgg ebtx bu uj wjr
7kq ylik zpm l7ci gw, hgwwhi wlgia
zpmu bpmh gb jgki
hjmy if jqa uyy zky ukyfkycau
hjmy if jqa uyy zky lsbayq hscba zkjz eyuiu djxy ncsx
hrzk gsic shq ygyu gsi djq zybb
rz ru qsz zky niqdzrsq sn zky lssa xjq zs as kjcx
oiz sn kru sffsurzy

Jimellow 05-13-2006 07:46 PM

I'm pretty sure I couldn't solve that if my life depended on it. I wouldn't even know where to begin.

Dilbert1234567 05-13-2006 09:28 PM

are spaces really spaces?

greebo 05-13-2006 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
are spaces really spaces?

I believe so.

Lotronex 05-14-2006 05:16 PM

There appears to be atleast 2 different ciphers.
Starting on the assumption that "3vjdj" and "ovjdj" were THERE and WHERE, I've got that:

3vjdj gdj ovj psf3zjsp fx rjpojdrjgd?
ovjdj 3gp zjedtp ts ovj gtd, fx qfkdpj
njogip gsz ijgajp
zkpo gsz gpv

is

Where are the snowdens of yesteryear?
There was debris in the air, of course
petals and leaves
dust and ash

Unfortunately, it doesnt seem like the cipher works on the rest of the msg. Ill work on it.

quick note, "Where are the snowdens of yesteryear?" is from Catch-22, might help

Lotronex 05-14-2006 09:18 PM

Starting with the assumption that 1'l and ivm'z are I'm and can't,

1'l ibxzv1meq muz tu1mt zu 1z vmqluxb
1 ivm'z cueg um bmuntc

Becomes

I'm certainly not going to it anymore
I can't hold on enough

which sounds awkward, but is what I'm getting. Any thoughts?

Lotronex 05-14-2006 09:50 PM

Woohoo! Was struggling with

+qim rihh htni w fviwx vwty
+qeklq +qiv rwhh xwvnif +qi iyf er w fviwx

and getting

They fell like a dream rain
Though ther fall marked the end of a dream

by assuming +qi == the, but "ther" is a typo on the part of your friend, or where ever he got this.

The complete (correct) quote includes the above lines, from the first cipher I solved:

There was debris in the air, of course
Petals and leaves
Dust and ash
They fell like a dream rain
Though their fall marked the end of a dream

Found the quote at http://books.google.com/books?vid=IS...cG1rw7VIhaysgg

Lotronex 05-14-2006 10:38 PM

So the game seems to be a list of literary quotes, usually w/ one half of the quote in one cipher, and the second half in another. The problem is, not all the quotes are correctly enciphered :( (assuming I'm doing this right). If your friend posted them on a website, please post it a link. Here's what I have so far

xsgmzjs uz czxqshs linu
5kolt5s lmjm mumj gwdod
!kprc!d wqp gigkscif
kb nrtp !iyis atf
mshhsm dgoq oqe mwas
pgrdsm dgoq oqe crce

plnv zvbqrxjqh robf bfulrovn
MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN ANYOTHER
bhebua aobhh x bglnv ulq
ALWAYS SHALL I ADORE YOU
bfg bhh rov elnhg wfve
AND ALL THE WORLD KNEW

(Can't find source, missing a space? "any other")

svlshv bnv'r aqsslavg rl hllw zbmw
PEOPLE ARE'T SUPPOSED TO LOOK BACK
1'l ibxzv1meq muz tu1mt zu 1z vmqluxb
I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO IT AGAIN

(quote from Slaughterhouse 5, should read "People aren't supposed to look back, I'm certainly not going to do it again")

1 ivm'z cueg um bmuntc
I CAN'T HOLD ON ENOUGH
(can't find source, missing a word maybe?)


3vjdj gdj ovj psf3zjsp fx rjpojdrjgd?
WHERE ARE THE SNOWDENS OF YESTERYEAR?

(quote from Catch-22)

ovjdj 3gp zjedtp ts ovj gtd, fx qfkdpj
THERE WAS DEBRIS IN THE AIR, OF COURSE
njogip gsz ijgajp
PETALS AND LEAVES
zkpo gsz gpv
DUST AND ASH
+qim rihh htni w fviwx vwty
THEY FELL LIKE A DREAM RAIN
+qeklq +qiv rwhh xwvnif +qi iyf er w fviwx
THOUGH THER FALL MARKED THE END OF A DREAM

(quote from Clive Barker's Making and Unmaking, quote should read, "There was debris in the air, of course: petals and leaves, dust and ash. They fell like a dream rain, though their fall marked the end of a dream.")

rhk ofnh do cri rbb plsf idpgbne
vfnen'i nldb?
do'i ofro bremn greo jz nlneaprh
ofro vrhoi oj fron vdofjxo bdpdo
udvu hvaun uj dvux pbud ejk ja bun nbkx
b pvb udxd, ujj
sru mxiqxlugw batbnbsgx
vak b pvau udx nxvnjan
vgg udx nxvnjan vu jalx
txiq pxgg, b pbgg ebtx bu uj wjr
7kq ylik zpm l7ci gw, hgwwhi wlgia
zpmu bpmh gb jgki
hjmy if jqa uyy zky ukyfkycau
hjmy if jqa uyy zky lsbayq hscba zkjz eyuiu djxy ncsx
hrzk gsic shq ygyu gsi djq zybb
rz ru qsz zky niqdzrsq sn zky lssa xjq zs as kjcx
oiz sn kru sffsurzy

aKula 05-15-2006 04:22 AM

Wow nice work lotronex. Spelling mistakes make it harder to solve as in the case of the kryptos sculpture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptos
Quote:

He had removed a single character from the cyphertext for aesthetic reasons. An accidental result of this change was that plaintext that should have decoded as "XLAYERTWO" had been decoded as "IDBYROWS".


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