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FelixP 09-15-2009 06:01 PM

1 - do you support the right for gay couples to legally marry?
2 - do you support the death penalty?
3 - do you believe that freedom of speech should be absolute, or are their some limits on what people should be allowed to say?
4 - do you believe that part of the role of taxation is to redistribute resources more equally?
5 - do you believe that people should be forced to learn the official language of a nation if they want to emmigrate to it?
6 - do you believe that prayer should be prohibited from schools?

1-Yes
2-Yes
3-Absolute, no limits.
4-To an extent.
5-YES YES AND YES!
6- Sanctioned prayer, yes. If a kid wants to pray before eating lunch, more power to him.

Obviously some of those are not black and white, but I tried to abide to the OP and not explain too much.

Caerus 09-15-2009 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2350681)
Would be interesting to see, with people trying as much as possible not to argue the case, and simply state their position
1 - do you support the right for gay couples to legally marry?
2 - do you support the death penalty?
3 - do you believe that freedom of speech should be absolute, or are their some limits on what people should be allowed to say?
4 - do you believe that part of the role of taxation is to redistribute resources more equally?
5 - do you believe that people should be forced to learn the official language of a nation if they want to emmigrate to it?
6 - do you believe that prayer should be prohibited from schools?

1: In a free country, I completely and totally support the right for homosexual couples to marry. I find that this is one of the great hypocrisies of the modern Republican party.

2: I do. I believe that people who have committed such a heinous act as murder should be faced with death.

3: The freedom of speech is not absolute and I do not believe that it should be. Libel and other incidences of spreading falsities is a crime in the world of journalism and should be treated as such. I have no problem with people saying whatever they want, just as long as it is not paraded as fact or news.

4: I do not. Taxes pay for a multitude of things and social welfare is an extremely small portion of government spending. Where does the money from taxes go? I believe an overwhelming amount of it goes to government contractors/banks (haha)/roads/govt. etc.

5: I do not believe so. The idea that we should be solely an English speaking language is ludicrous I think. We are extremely fortunate that other countries learn English as a second language from the get-go. Other nations are not exclusive and neither should we.

6: Absolutely. Religion is a private matter and should be kept as such. They are PUBLIC schools for a reason.

samcol 09-15-2009 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2350681)
Would be interesting to see, with people trying as much as possible not to argue the case, and simply state their position

1 - do you support the right for gay couples to legally marry?
2 - do you support the death penalty?
3 - do you believe that freedom of speech should be absolute, or are their some limits on what people should be allowed to say?
4 - do you believe that part of the role of taxation is to redistribute resources more equally?
5 - do you believe that people should be forced to learn the official language of a nation if they want to emmigrate to it?
6 - do you believe that prayer should be prohibited from schools?

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My answers
1. yes
2. I think people deserve to die for certain crimes, but I feel the government isn't capable of keeping innocent people from being executed.
NO.
3. Direct death threats shouldn't be absolute. Any other speech should be allowed under 1st amendment.
4. no
5. yes
6. no


boink 09-17-2009 07:06 PM

1 - do you support the right for gay couples to legally marry?
yes, in concept. I'd like to try just having a total equal rights/benefits civil union, just because I hate to think of the tons of money spent on public voting on this ad nauseum to appease the religious folk. let them have their term "marriage"

2 - do you support the death penalty?
no.

3 - do you believe that freedom of speech should be absolute, or are their some limits on what people should be allowed to say?
yes, mostly. except for yelling FIRE when there is no fire or maybe NAZI
this freedom is for individuals i.e. people and not corporations. in fact lately I'd consider penalties for misrepresentation by people in certain professions like journalist/pundit etc( who are often just mouthpieces for corporate interests anyway). people in media should be held to some standard of truthfulness. I feel these days the quality of content is such garbage that standards need to be drawn up and people need to be held to them or loose their...licence ? I guess I feel like those on TV are in a special position of power, I feel they should be held to a standard. I'm not sure how to go about implementing such a thing. I can see it could be a huge problem. but I feel like people are taking advantage of their place in the public eye and causing damage.

4 - do you believe that part of the role of taxation is to redistribute resources more equally?
yes, I would not phrase it this way, but I do believe I would prefer a society in which education is free including trade schools and academic college. I believe a society that invests in it's people reaps benefits in both economic and social ways. regardless of career choice, higher education just gives people better thinking skills. it makes them better neighbors and makes them less susceptible to "mob mentality" less apt to turn to violent aggression as a "tool of resolution". I also believe similarly in terms of support of health care, even if up to 20% of the recipients are gaming the system. I care more about the 80% that really need assistance. I feel it's part of the cost of living in a "civil society" I've had plenty of help in my life (not public assistance but I've been lucky enough to find good people to associate with) I think it should be available for those in need.

5 - do you believe that people should be forced to learn the official language of a nation if they want to emigrate to it?
yes, within reason. not for residence but to become a citizen I think a basic language skills would be reasonable.

6 - do you believe that prayer should be prohibited from schools?
yes, out loud, organised prayer anyway.

Terrell 09-17-2009 11:42 PM

1. Yes, as I have yet to see anything resembling a decent reason, much less a good one, as to why gays shouldn't be allowed to marry.

2. Yes, but only for treason during wartime, 1st degree murder, and murder during the commission of certain violent felonies.

3. There should be some limits, but those limits are libel, incitement to violence, and fire in a crowded theatre types of things.

4. No, I see taxes as a necessary evil. I think they're there pay for the things that government should be doing.

5. Yes, if you're coming to the United States to stay, you should be required to learn English. (Though technically the US doesn't have an official language afaik)

6. In terms of faculty organized, led prayer, yes, it should be prohibited. If some students wish to quietly pray on their own time, in a manner that's not disruptive to others, then that should be allowed.

dd3953 09-18-2009 04:19 PM

1- do you support the right for gay couples to legally marry?
Yes, I don't think that marriage should be a privilege for some, i think any person should be able, if they want, to marry another person.

2 - do you support the death penalty?
I'm not sure. While part of me understands why we have it, it seems that it could be wrong. But sometimes it makes sense. Someone does something, like rape 30 woman, goes to jail, comes out and does it again, and the cycle repeats itself, kill them. They are not going to change and they are hurting other people.

3 - do you believe that freedom of speech should be absolute, or are their some limits on what people should be allowed to say?
Yes, and while it sucks when people say things that hurts other people's feeling, I don't think there should be any limits. This whole PC thing is getting way too out of control in my opinion, and can lead to some real negative stuff down the road.

4 - do you believe that part of the role of taxation is to redistribute resources more equally?
While I think that should be the role, I don't believe that is the goal of it currently.

5 - do you believe that people should be forced to learn the official language of a nation if they want to emmigrate to it?
I don't think they should be forced, but encouraged. At some point it'll just make life easier for them.

6 - do you believe that prayer should be prohibited from schools?
No. But until we can respect the fact the not everyone is praying to the same God, or that everyone goes about it the same way, there will be problems.

william 09-20-2009 12:14 AM

1. Gay marriage - who cares.
2. Death Penalty - if proven beyond a doubt.
3. Absolute freedom of speech - That's one of the reasons I spent 8 years in the military; but then again, be careful of what you say and where you say it.
4. Taxation - yes.
5. Learn the Language - that would be a big HELL YES, I've traveled overseas and they act like I'm an asshole because I don't know their language - I'm just visiting! If they choose to move and live here, learn the language.
6. Prohibit prayer from schools - Church and State rules

Reese 09-20-2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

1 - do you support the right for gay couples to legally marry?
2 - do you support the death penalty?
3 - do you believe that freedom of speech should be absolute, or are their some limits on what people should be allowed to say?
4 - do you believe that part of the role of taxation is to redistribute resources more equally?
5 - do you believe that people should be forced to learn the official language of a nation if they want to emmigrate to it?
6 - do you believe that prayer should be prohibited from schools?
1: Yes
2: No
3: Yes
4: Yes
5: Yes, except for refugees.
6: "Students have the right to be free of the coercion of state-sponsored and captive-audience prayer."

james t kirk 09-21-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2350681)
Would be interesting to see, with people trying as much as possible not to argue the case, and simply state their position

1 - do you support the right for gay couples to legally marry?
2 - do you support the death penalty?
3 - do you believe that freedom of speech should be absolute, or are their some limits on what people should be allowed to say?
4 - do you believe that part of the role of taxation is to redistribute resources more equally?
5 - do you believe that people should be forced to learn the official language of a nation if they want to emmigrate to it?
6 - do you believe that prayer should be prohibited from schools?

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1. Gay Marriage - Already a fact in Canada, I'm all for it.

2. Death Penalty - Already illegal in Canada and I personally feel that it demeans us all. That said, a life sentence should be exactly that.

3. Freedom of Speech has limits

4. Taxation to redistribute wealth. No. You can't make the poor rich(er) by taxing the rich. That said, I'm all for spending more money on higher education (college and University - the only true way to get the poor to stand on their own 2 feet.)

5. Since when has anyone been forced to learn English (/French) when emigrating to NA. Why start now?

6. I'm Catholic, but I believe only in the Public School System. No prayer or religous training in schools. Save that for church, or the Synogogue, or the Mosque, or whatever floats your boat.


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