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SecretMethod70 03-21-2008 05:40 AM

Bill Richardson to Endorse Obama
 
I'm being totally sincere when I say this is some of the most pleasing news I've heard all campaign. I have a lot of respect for Bill Richardson, and I'd like to see him as Obama's vice president.

CNN has the story.

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(CNN) -- Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico plans to endorse Sen. Barack Obama in the Democratic race for president Friday, an Obama campaign spokesperson told CNN.

Richardson plans to join Obama at a rally in Portland, Oregon, at 12:30 p.m. ET Friday.

In an e-mail to supporters, Richardson said Obama will be a "historic and a great president, who can bring us the change we so desperately need by bringing us together as a nation here at home and with our allies abroad."

Richardson also said in the e-mail that he was touched by Obama's recent speech on race in America, saying he "understands clearly that only by bringing people together, only by bridging our differences can we all succeed together as Americans."

Richardson is the nation's only Hispanic governor. Hispanics have tended to support Obama's rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton, in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

But Richardson's endorsement will have an impact beyond Latino voters, CNN senior political correspondent Candy Crowley said.

"This is an endorsement that may help with the Latino voting bloc around the edges, but if that were Richardson's target he would have done this before the New Mexico and Texas contests, both of which Obama narrowly lost, largely due to the Latino vote," Crowley said. "So this is a larger message to superdelegates, those elected officials and party officials who in the end may well decide who the nominee will be."

Richardson said the country is blessed to have two great American leaders and great Democrats running for president.

"My affection and admiration for Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton will never waver," Richardson wrote in his e-mail. "It is time, however, for Democrats to stop fighting amongst ourselves and to prepare for the tough fight we will face against John McCain in the fall."

Richardson, who served as United Nations ambassador and energy secretary in the Clinton administration, dropped out of the race for the Democratic nomination on January 10.

He drew 5 percent of the vote in the New Hampshire primary and 2 percent of the vote in the Iowa caucuses.
So what do you think? Will this make a difference? Obama/Richardson '08?

Oh, and based on CNN's current homepage picture, it looks like Richardson has pulled an Al Gore and grew a beard after losing a presidential race :p

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/POL...son.afp.gi.jpg

Jinn 03-21-2008 07:15 AM

He looks a hell of a lot less baby-faced with the beard.. I like it.

I thought Richardson was a lackluster debater, but I (generally) liked his politics... so this is good news to me, too.

Ace_O_Spades 03-21-2008 08:01 AM

I had really enjoyed hearing Richardson's ideas in the early stages of the Democratic primary. He (as stated) was rather flat when it comes to the "star power" that drives the Obama and Clinton campaigns, but his politics are sound and he would make a great VP IMO. But what do I know?

Ustwo 03-21-2008 08:03 AM

So this thread is to discuss his beard?

Jinn 03-21-2008 08:14 AM

It wasn't until you came around.

Rekna 03-21-2008 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
So this thread is to discuss his beard?

Ustwo is using modeling foxnews' reporting methods. Distract, distract, distract.

djtestudo 03-21-2008 01:42 PM

He looks kind-of like Jimmy Smits as Matt Santos.

(And even without the threadjack, that would have been my contribution :D)

Tully Mars 03-21-2008 02:00 PM

I agree, this is good news. I'm hoping over the next few days a wave of super delegates follow his lead. If they start dropping into camp Obama maybe she'll drop her scorched earth, kitchen sink campaign... which IMO is hurting the Dems more then anything the GOP could do.

Willravel 03-21-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by djtestudo
He looks kind-of like Jimmy Smits as Matt Santos.

(And even without the threadjack, that would have been my contribution :D)

*weeps openly about the West Wing ending....*

SecretMethod70 03-21-2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tully Mars
I agree, this is good news. I'm hoping over the next few days a wave of super delegates follow his lead. If they start dropping into camp Obama maybe she'll drop her scorched earth, kitchen sink campaign... which IMO is hurting the Dems more then anything the GOP could do.

Yup. If I'm not mistaken, you were a Clinton supporter, correct? I'm glad to see things (very slowly) winding down, though I wish the process would speed up a bit. Like you said, I hope more superdelegates start to follow Richardson's lead, because they're the only ones with the power to put an end to this before June at the earliest.

I'm looking forward to being on the same side as Clinton supporters again. I've been extremely disappointed by her over the past 6 weeks or so, but for all her imperfections she's still certainly better than John McCain, or Mitt Romney, or Rudy Giuliani. I may not want her to be the next president, but I do want her as a contributing political voice in this country. And, really, I do have a certain sympathy for her, because I think a big reason she's fighting so hard is because she knows this is the only chance she's got at the presidency. If she's lucky, she might still have 2012 as an option. Still, it's time to put this primary campaign to rest and get on with the general election.

Willravel 03-21-2008 02:36 PM

Kerry has said he supports Obama, Edwards supports Obama... has Gore said anything yet? I remember last year he was going on about not endorsing anyone, but despite his close friendship to the Clintons, it would seem logical for him to endorse Obama. Maybe if Obama speaks a bit more on environmental issues?

As an aside, I don't actually know any Clinton supporters here in California. Everyone I know in the Bay Area, Sacramento, Visalia, Los Angeles and San Diego all seem to be supporting Obama and many have been doing so since day one. Are we sure she took California?

Tully Mars 03-21-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
Yup. If I'm not mistaken, you were a Clinton supporter, correct? I'm glad to see things (very slowly) winding down, though I wish the process would speed up a bit. Like you said, I hope more superdelegates start to follow Richardson's lead, because they're the only ones with the power to put an end to this before June at the earliest.

That would be a big NO. I think if you look around you'll find I stated earlier if it came down to Clinton V. McCain I'd be voting for McCain. I then went and read up on some of McCain's proposed policies via his web site and retracted that statement. I then said if it were Clinton v. McCain I go to the beach on the day of the election.

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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
I'm looking forward to being on the same side as Clinton supporters again. I've been extremely disappointed by her over the past 6 weeks or so, but for all her imperfections she's still certainly better than John McCain, or Mitt Romney, or Rudy Giuliani. I may not want her to be the next president, but I do want her as a contributing political voice in this country. And, really, I do have a certain sympathy for her, because I think a big reason she's fighting so hard is because she knows this is the only chance she's got at the presidency. If she's lucky, she might still have 2012 as an option. Still, it's time to put this primary campaign to rest and get on with the general election.

I just hope after all the BS her campaign's done her supporters will be willing to rejoin the party and take on what clearly is the larger evil.

SecretMethod70 03-21-2008 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tully Mars
That would be a big NO. I think if you look around you'll find I stated earlier if it came down to Clinton V. McCain I'd be voting for McCain. I then went and read up on some of McCain's proposed policies via his web site and retracted that statement. I then said if it were Clinton v. McCain I go to the beach on the day of the election.

Heh, sorry, guess that was someone else around here :p
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I just hope after all the BS her campaign's done her supporters will be willing to rejoin the party and take on what clearly is the larger evil.
Agreed.

Ustwo 03-21-2008 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rekna
Ustwo is using modeling foxnews' reporting methods. Distract, distract, distract.

Read there OP there was no point of discussion.

It was a post for 'found on the net'.

Someone endorsed a candidate I liked, oh and he has a beard.

That was it.

So tell me, what did I distract from? The beard or that secretmethod was pleased?

Tully Mars 03-21-2008 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
Kerry has said he supports Obama, Edwards supports Obama... has Gore said anything yet? I remember last year he was going on about not endorsing anyone, but despite his close friendship to the Clintons, it would seem logical for him to endorse Obama. Maybe if Obama speaks a bit more on environmental issues?

As an aside, I don't actually know any Clinton supporters here in California. Everyone I know in the Bay Area, Sacramento, Visalia, Los Angeles and San Diego all seem to be supporting Obama and many have been doing so since day one. Are we sure she took California?

Did Edwards come out for Obama? When did that happen?

SecretMethod70 03-21-2008 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo
Read there OP there was no point of discussion.

It was a post for 'found on the net'.

Someone endorsed a candidate I liked, oh and he has a beard.

That was it.

So tell me, what did I distract from? The beard or that secretmethod was pleased?

Sheesh. Tilted Politics is the kind of place where it's easy to take something like Richardson's endorsement of Obama and run with it. That's what I intended to happen.

But, just to make you happy - and because, you're right, generally we encourage people to put a little more in the OP - I added a few questions.

Now, to answer those questions:

I think this is great. I don't think it'll make much of a difference in voting, but it'll make a difference in media momentum, and also a difference in supporter enthusiasm. Obama/Richardson '08 is my dream ticket.

Happy? ;) (Don't take that as overly sarcastic...your point was generally valid, even if I think it was unnecessarily so. Never hurts to have someone keeping us on our toes.)

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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
Did Edwards come out for Obama? When did that happen?

Yeah, I know nothing of this.

Strange Famous 03-21-2008 04:21 PM

Obama is winning.

tisonlyi 03-21-2008 04:49 PM

How, in any way, does being endorsed by the politicians who have failed to give the people this 'change' that they are seemingly crying out for this time around help convince people that he's the change they need?

Ted Kennedy?
Rejected Candidates of this election and previous processes?
Senators and congressmen of now and the near past - hey, they're not members of the established order with niches to defend to the death, are they?

Real change doesn't come with support from the established order, no matter how eloquent the rhetoric. Real change comes from an overwhelming mandate of the people _against_ the established interests in power.

Willravel 03-21-2008 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tully Mars
Did Edwards come out for Obama? When did that happen?

Oh you know what, I misread an old report. It was Mrs. Edwards.

Tully Mars 03-21-2008 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tisonlyi
How, in any way, does being endorsed by the politicians who have failed to give the people this 'change' that they are seemingly crying out for this time around help convince people that he's the change they need?

Ted Kennedy?
Rejected Candidates of this election and previous processes?
Senators and congressmen of now and the near past - hey, they're not members of the established order with niches to defend to the death, are they?

Real change doesn't come with support from the established order, no matter how eloquent the rhetoric. Real change comes from an overwhelming mandate of the people _against_ the established interests in power.

I understand what you're saying. But in this case the race has come down to the super delegates, ie the politicians and the establishment. Clinton, mathematically, can not catch Obama in the reg. delegates or the pop vote and Obama can not reach the need number without the SD's. So when one of the major SD's comes out and endorses it can lead other's to follow, which is what I'm hoping.

tisonlyi 03-21-2008 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tully Mars
I understand what you're saying. But in this case the race has come down to the super delegates, ie the politicians and the establishment. Clinton, mathematically, can not catch Obama in the reg. delegates or the pop vote and Obama can not reach the need number without the SD's. So when one of the major SD's comes out and endorses it can lead other's to follow, which is what I'm hoping.

But that's just playing around in the same old systems of patronage and favours, special interests, rehashing the same old stuff, with the same old bunch of characters in the background, pulling the strings.

Well, it's not even the same old bunch of characters in the background... They're right out there on centre stage, smiling for the cameras.

I think, in general message, that said it best.

15 years on and still relevant. Sleep tight.

Tully Mars 03-21-2008 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tisonlyi
But that's just playing around in the same old systems of patronage and favours, special interests, rehashing the same old stuff, with the same old bunch of characters in the background, pulling the strings.

Well, it's not even the same old bunch of characters in the background... They're right out there on centre stage, smiling for the cameras.


Well if you're looking for someone to defend the SD system the Dems have adopted you'll need to look elsewhere as I'm no fan.

But it is what it is and this is where we're at.

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
Oh you know what, I misread an old report. It was Mrs. Edwards.

I didn't know that, when did she say this?

dc_dux 03-21-2008 06:19 PM

Endorsements generally dont much in the way of added votes. What Richardson brings to the Obama camp is a recognized and credible person with foreign policy experience (former UN ambassador, former envoy to N. Korea, former mid east negotiator...)

I dont think it will have much impact on superdelegates either. I think they will wait and see what happens in PA, NC and IN. If Obama wins the last two (PA is unlikely), the wavering superdelagates will swing to Obama and the pressure on Clinton to drop out will be immense.


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