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match000 08-19-2006 05:52 PM

Or her parents are divorced and she hates men because of that. maybe her dad was really mean to her mom and her, or something.

oberon 08-20-2006 01:36 AM

Such speculation is completely pointless.

Vincentt 08-20-2006 05:16 AM

Man, this really was a relentless attack.

But, if a man posted something about how much a pimp he was, and talked about all the ways he plays girls, he would get the same response.

This is just a woman going on “My lumps” or “Bossy” image. Give me all your time and money, and you can get my ass, style.

Using sex to get stuff isn’t new at all; this girl is just doing it skillfully.



While I would argue that her boyfriend must be the type of guy that can’t get any other girls. If he could, then he might not put up with that kind of shit. But maybe he just got stuck on a girl who he couldn’t walk over, who knows.

If he gets fed up, he will leave.

Lindy 08-20-2006 05:38 PM

I've just come back to this thread. Read all four (so far) pages. It all just reinforces what I first thought. I hope that it is not considered bad form to quote myself.
Lindy

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Originally Posted by Lindy
FoxyLucy, you sound like an emotionally immature control freak. Your guy sounds like a very dependant emotional weakling. You are the rider, he is the horse. You may fit well together, but I don't think I would want anything to do with EITHER of you.
Lindy


Impetuous1 08-20-2006 06:18 PM

*nods in agreement*


"Such speculation is completely pointless."

Yes, but still intriguing. I like to figure out how people work.

MSD 08-21-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cervantes
*leans back with a sigh* That's a good example of how a troll works the thread.

I'm not sure what drives a troll really, never really felt that urge.. but I would imagine it is some kind of infantile need for attention from others, something in the lines of a child who begins to scream in the supermarket just because it can.

It's the knowledge that everyone but you is seeing something so dumb and taking it seriously. Making up a story to which you have no emotional connection and watching others get emotional about it. It's not always a need for attention, it can be amusement from the realization that people take themselves way too seriously. In this case, I think it's the attention thing, though.

match000 08-21-2006 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
It's the knowledge that everyone but you is seeing something so dumb and taking it seriously. Making up a story to which you have no emotional connection and watching others get emotional about it. It's not always a need for attention, it can be amusement from the realization that people take themselves way too seriously. In this case, I think it's the attention thing, though.

you seem to know a troll all too well.. hmmmm.. HMMM :rolleyes:

Ustwo 08-21-2006 10:24 PM

Back when I was dating I had a 3 blue balls rule.

If you wanted to tease and not finish the job you get three strikes. After that its not worth the effort. It doesn't mean a woman would have to have sex right away with me, only that she wouldn't tease me and get me close without finishing. Blue balls fucking HURT.

I only had to invoke this rule once, and no regrets :)

Gilda 08-22-2006 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rockogre
Just a question for our esteemed female members. Who amongst the rest of you ladies would actually want a man that would be this...........what ever he is?

I think I can safely say that such a relationship would be the antithesis of what I would be interested in.

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Originally Posted by FoxyLucy
Probably, I imagine because some of you are misogynist geeks who have never experienced a real woman!

I'm a geek! Do you think Garth Ennis is celebrating the macho hero archetype in Preacher, or using that as a framework to run a counterpoint to it just under the surface? I think it works on both levels, depending on what you bring to the work.

Misogynist, not so much. I tend to approach women's roles in society from a neo-feminist perspective, which is based on the idea that women should be free to choose the life that best suits them within the context of their abilities and circumstances.

I experience a real woman roughly 3-4 times a week on average.

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Originally Posted by FoxyLucy
I imagine most of your girlfriends and wives control you and you all beg for sex!

Boy if that isn't the truth! Why just the other night, I was all dolled up in my French maid's outfit, and we . . . but that's a story for another time and place.

I am the sub in a D/s sexual relationship, which extends a little bit into our non-sexual emotional relationship. We are, however, equal partners. That may sound a little strange to someone not closely familiar with how D/s or BD relationships work. It's a partnership, in which both partners are fully aware of what is happening and why, and enter into it freely because it's a role that meets their sexual and emotional needs.

A true domme is just as concerned with her sub's needs and pleasures as she is her own. Manipulating someone else for your own personal benefit without concern for the other person's needs isn't being a domme, and it isn't a true D/s relationship. It's simply emotional abuse.

This is not meant as specific commentary on this specific case. I did, however, want to distinguish what is and is not a D/s relationship.

Gilda

longbough 08-22-2006 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Gilda
I am the sub in a D/s sexual relationship, which extends a little bit into our non-sexual emotional relationship. We are, however, equal partners. That may sound a little strange to someone not closely familiar with how D/s or BD relationships work. It's a partnership, in which both partners are fully aware of what is happening and why, and enter into it freely because it's a role that meets their sexual and emotional needs.

A true domme is just as concerned with her sub's needs and pleasures as she is her own. Manipulating someone else for your own personal benefit without concern for the other person's needs isn't being a domme, and it isn't a true D/s relationship. It's simply emotional abuse.

Well said, Gilda.
Long term relationships founded on D/s actually support a great deal of intimacy and trust.

Conversely the OP is describing a consequence of distrust - the complete antithesis of such intimacy.

xim 08-24-2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxyLucy
I´m partaking in a consensual relationship with an adult, university educated man. What I´m doing is not illegal, and he can walk away any time he likes - hence, consensual. Women have for centuries been lackeys to men. Quiet, subserviant creatures, who wash and clean and bring up the kids, often in physically abusive relationships from which they had no escape.

Now, the boot´s on the other foot. I´m a 21st century girl. A professional (don´t start with the ´pro´ jibes - though to be fait you´re pretty civil in your criticism), an independent woman. If I use sex as leverage to get what I want and my guy doesn´t have a problem with that...why should you? :confused:

Even though you guys think its pointless to speculate, I would bet money that her dad was a spineless little man and her mom walked all over him. Thats where she attained her understanding of this social dynamic.

I used to be in a relationship like this. I got so fed up with it. I know the girl who has that "i hold out as long as possible to assert my power over him" attidue, I made out with her at a club but didnt want anything to do with dating her.

This is why I've had to learn to be extremely manipulative in persuit of sex, women like you taught me that you have to be able to out-mindfuck the other person.

Yeah, men do use women for sex, but men are the workhorses of society. Thats what these girls want. To keep the guy desperate long enough that he gets emotionally attatched to them. (the girl actually has a sociopathic lack of empathy to the guy and doesn't really understand what the emotional attatchment she is creating is, her experience of emotional attachment is owning sets of testicles) Then once hes emotionally attached she can fight the evil male oppression machine by using him to provide for her.

I've learned that because of the attitude that you have, the best way for a man to live is to swear off monogomy. It's really the only way a guy can protect himself from this kind of exploitation. If a girl starts giving me this crap, i just go fuck someone else. Thats what she gets.

You and I are alot alike. Teasing him and leaving him unsatisfied because you can is about the same as when I tell a girl that shes a worthless little cuntstain and make her live in a cage in my closet like the fucking animal she is. If she complains I kick her in the stomach and slap her little bitch face around. She must love the bruises I give her because If she wants to leave shes free to go at any time...

But one thing I wonder? Doesn't it turn you off that you have a bigger dick than your boyfriend? Wouldnt you be more turned on by a guy who can stand up to you? If there was trouble on the street would YOU be the one to protect your kitten-man? Of course I guess this is the typical dynamic where you keep him right on that sweetspot of just enough sex so he stays around and pays the bills and buys you stuff. You wait and after a while a real man comes along who acts like he doesn't even notice your looks to make you feel needy and inadequete. Then that guy fucks the shit out of you. Its good for us because your control addiction makes you way easy to identify and manipulate.

Gilda 08-24-2006 09:21 PM

Wow! Are you, by any chance, a fan of Gor?

Gilda

xim 08-24-2006 10:50 PM

Me?
Never checked it out, I guess I have to now...

air45 08-31-2006 12:57 PM

your man is in a bad way! i am certain to be happy not to sex with you!

Fjandi 09-07-2006 09:22 PM

:D This is a display of human evolution in action. There is nothing wrong with what she's doing in a rational sense - unless of course the blatant use of sex as power throughout the media is something that is also worthy of such a stir.

My only concern is a lack of communication between you two. If he really doesn't know about how you truely feel, something deep and essential is missing in the relationship. If you're not communicating your desires most likely your relationship is bound to fail. & I wouldn't be concerned about sacrificing your position; Chances are he either enjoys or needs what it is the relationship gives him.

In addition, I have to wonder if you actually *love* him...? I've a more dominant personality myself and in my past relationships I've been told that I was often in disregard to my partners' feelings. I was unaware of this at the time, but I'm sometimes considered a coldhearted bitch. *Snickers* ;) I can identify with what it is you're doing but honestly the little mister ought to know a thing or two about who you truely are, because when you've got a man by his thang, you've power equivalent to the fire that burns within him. For the psychological (and possibly even physical) health of both of you, you are wise to express your true nature to him A.S.A.P. and that means very relatively soon. I have to wonder how long you two have been seeing one another... ???


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