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Politics The 2024 US Presidential Election

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by ASU2003, Jun 7, 2023.

  1. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  2. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    I’ve only heard of it going to California, 2 in Washington state and Georgia, specifically in the county trying Chump and others in the election interference case.
    The only one I’ve heard from Texas was awhile back and a totally different guy who they got and tried.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if there’s more, but it would be surprising going to the TX AG, who’s ultra conservative.
    If so, it would likely be 2 different groups/perpetrators, each with different agendas, but using the same chemical.
    1. Going after the AG specially, he’s pissed off many and done crimes (could be any political party or independent)

    2. A group trying to intimidate election officials, probably ultra conservative, since so far they’ve targeted liberal states or one they consider RINO.
    Just my opinion and guess
     
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  3. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
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    I have a guess that wouldn't surprise me: Ken Paxton made it up :eek: :confused:.

    Unknown substance sent in letter to Texas AG's Office | Austin | kvue.com
     
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  4. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Forget the Polls—Here’s What Actual Election Results Can Tell Us About 2024

    So the media is doing a horserace.
    And the poll vendors are likely doing close calls to get more interest and continuous poll reporting.
    Also, there's always been a question as to who is answering any poll. (I know I hang up or avoid them like the plague :rolleyes:)

    So what it comes down to, is turning out the vote.
    And making sure people can vote easily.

    Also the topics also noted in the article, currently seem to be trending in the Dems' agenda's favor.

    The GOP isn't also doing themselves any favors with their antics in Congress and otherwise.

    Frankly, they're acting almost cartoonish, like Dick Dastardly trying to win...or Wile E. Coyote.

    I hope the media gets its act together. And starts realizing there's more at stake here than simply getting a headline and selling ads.
    It isn't a normal campaign. Not with a wannabe tyrant in the running.

    Democracy is on the line, no joke or exaggeration.
     
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  5. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Large City, TX
    I sometimes think polls have a squeaky wheel factor, the people who respond to polls want to make noise & be heard.

    To a certain extent the news has to give the people what they want in order to stay in business, but the bandwagon effect gets really old.
     
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  6. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
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  7. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
  8. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    What the hell is everyone scared of? Uprisings by the magatards?

    Its really simple: Declare NPD Trump ineligible under 14.3, then let the case work its way to the SC.

    Edit: I hit a paywall with WP.

    Colorado judge rules Trump ‘engaged in an insurrection’ — but can still run for president

    ""The Court holds there is scant direct evidence regarding whether the Presidency is one of the positions subject to disqualification,” she wrote."

    Sarah B. Wallace, pathetic excuse for a "judge." A totally spineless wimpy pussy.

    Something glaringly missing from the Politico article:
    The judge's name.
     
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  9. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Colorado District Judge Sarah Wallace

    And her reasoning is absurd...it applies to all officials...but not presidents.

    If I were the group, I'd appeal.

    Yes, he did everything you said...and it applies to all...but presidents.
    What happened to no one is above the law???

    When did presidents get to be god-kings??? :mad:

    Now I understood the other state's case...it's not at the federal level yet, primaries are at a party level.
    If it gets to a general election, then it may apply.

    However, the way we currently treat the 2 major parties in the nation, which have a virtual monopoly
    I don't think that's a fair assessment, they are both integrated into the system at the moment.
    And it IS a federal contest, if they can regulate funding and other rules, then they can do it at the party level too for qualifiers.
     
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  10. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Large City, TX
    14.3 Is going have to be settled at the SC/federal level, even if a refusal, because that would clearly kick back to the states.

    I'm thinking 14.3 could be one of the biggest legal cases in the history of the USA. If we can find any people with the backbone to hear it, sort it out, AND figure out how to enforce 14.3.
     
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  11. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    BTW, from what I’ve heard, it will be appealed on the state level.

    And most experts say, they won’t disagree with the fact finding part…that she said he DID do insurrection.

    But, they’ll question the statement that it doesn’t apply to the president, but every other official.
    Most think this is weak and splitting hairs.

    Frankly, I think by the time we actually get to the primaries,
    Chump will have screwed up
    Or multiple cases will go against him
    Or people will just be exhausted by him
    Or all of the above

    Then even IF he somehow gets through the party primary
    This court cycle will go again on the federal level, for many states.

    Right now, I hope he gets every slap in the face and gut shot possible.
    Well deserved karma.

    IMHO, it’s the horserace media that I worry about.
    Creating controversy for the opposition.
     
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  12. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  13. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Americans For Prosperity* has been against NPD Trump for quite a while, but they are now stepping up the campaign against him.

    Anti-Donald Trump mailers sent out by top Republican donor.

    Hopefully their message gets through to voters who want to remain Repubs, and get rid of NPD Trump.



    * Is the Vulcan split fingers greeting "Live long and prosper" their secret signal?
     
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