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Old 05-21-2008, 08:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Shave your head and go to hell

The guy in charge of my office's parking lot got a new haircut, living his hair really short, so I joked with him about falling asleep at the barbers chair and asked him why he didn't shaved his head given that he had left so little hair. His answer blew me away, "I can't do that" he said, "church does not allow us to do so, 'cause it is a sin and you could end in hell".
My first reaction was he HAS to be joking, so I joked back at him saying that then I had a sit waiting for me next to satan as I'm going bald, but his answer was even more shocking, he said "you don't have to worry about that because that's the way God made you, you should be more worried about dancing, drinking and having homosexual friends". Then, proceeded to take out his bible and started to read what he thought were great quotes that justified what he had just said.
The conversation, if one can call that a conversation, lasted for another 5 minutes in which he declared with all certainty that Jesus had never had an ounce of alcohol - seems like they have discovered strong evidence that confirms that the wine that the bible says he made at the Canaan's wedding was only grape juice- and he never befriended with hookers and other questionable characters - all of the sudden Mary Magdalen had changed her profession to immaculate God servant-. He went on how the evolution is crap and that science books that show about it have to be burned.
I really didn't objected what he said, I've met a lot of people like him in my time, but surely non as passionate as him, and knew that trying to reason with him was futile.
That was yesterday, and now I'm sitting here in my desk realizing that this guy knows more about me than I had realized and that he has already passed judgment on me and is sure that I'm condemned to hell, all of this based only on observation: who are my friends, what I have in my car, my profession, etc. It's really sad that in our times so much ignorance and hate is thought by so called "religions", but what really pisses me off, is that there is so much people out there stupid and eager enough to believe this bullshit and act accordingly.
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It's a sin to shave beards, but I've never heard anything about the head. What verses did he quote?

BTW, Mary was never referred to as a prostitute in the NT. That rumor came much later.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It's a sin to shave beards, but I've never heard anything about the head. What verses did he quote?

BTW, Mary was never referred to as a prostitute in the NT. That rumor came much later.
He cited a Corinthians's passage that applies to women only, don't recall the exact verse.
About Mary Magdalen, yes I know she wasn't a hooker, at least there's nothing in the Bible that says so, but I was just paraphrasing what he said. It was obvious that he was trained to defend himself against those questions and he did so even before I asked anything.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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these people aren't people, they're institutionalized zombies. Where is the free thought and free will when everything you do is out of a damned book?
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:25 AM   #5 (permalink)
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these people aren't people, they're institutionalized zombies. Where is the free thought and free will when everything you do is out of a damned book?
A book written by <I>people</I> who thought it was ok to <B>kill</B> gay people for no reason other than them being different.......
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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these people aren't people, they're institutionalized zombies. Where is the free thought and free will when everything you do is out of a damned book?
you have free will...

you are free will to follow or not follow what the book says...
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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He should have quoted Leviticus 21:5:

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They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in their flesh.
Obviously the guy needs to familiarize himself with the OT.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:34 AM   #8 (permalink)
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He should have quoted Leviticus 21:5:
So that includes piercings? ...Damnit
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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He should have quoted Leviticus 21:5:



Obviously the guy needs to familiarize himself with the OT.
Funny thing about thew OT and NT is that they interpret it or quote it depending on what is of their interest at the moment, there are many contradictions between the both of them that they have to choose what applies best based on circumstances.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:04 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I bet you were just stunned. Often religion, always war and India's caste system, bring people down and control them. It is unspeakably awful really what we sometimes do to one another. That said the point of your OP being that people actually fall for this stuff - yeah, that is always the problem isnt it!? It pisses me off too!!

A little religious tidbit I learned just recently, shortly before the TX fiasco, was that LDS women are expected to wear particular underwear that is to be purchased through the church.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
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A little religious tidbit I learned just recently, shortly before the TX fiasco, was that LDS women are expected to wear particular underwear that is to be purchased through the church.
Men too, if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Men too, if I'm not mistaken.
You are correct, it does apply to both men and women who attend LDS temples
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Old 05-21-2008, 01:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I usually don't listen to people like that. I shave my head, play violent video games, watch violent movies, have homosexual friends, have premarital sex, and listen to bands like Megadeth and Slayer. I've also been told by many people that I'm one of the nicest people that they've ever met and try to be a good person towards others. So, if any of those things are enough of a reason for me to go to hell, then I wouldn't want to go anywhere else.
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You are correct, it does apply to both men and women who attend LDS temples
So who gives a flying fuck what kind of underwear the LDS people wear and how does that have ANYTHING to do with the OP about shaving ones head?

c'mon....
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:29 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
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So who gives a flying fuck what kind of underwear the LDS people wear and how does that have ANYTHING to do with the OP about shaving ones head?

c'mon....
It's an example of people doing (or thinking) idiodic-seeming things for no reason other than their church tells them too. Doesn't seem off topic to me.
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
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You are correct, it does apply to both men and women who attend LDS temples
yeah, that's what happens when you do too much LDS
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:08 PM   #18 (permalink)
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yeah, that's what happens when you do too much LDS
*groan*

It's called a temple garment, by the way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_garment
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:01 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I can remember having a conversation with the manager of the burger place I worked at in High School. She was convinced that if I didn't repent and accept Jesus as my saviour I was going to Hell. Asking her to expand on this she indicated that yes, the vast majority of the population, including those who practice other religions that also follow "God's word" will go to Hell as well.

While she wasn't as extreme as your parking attendant, she was pretty out there from my perspective.
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:15 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I'd have argued with him just to piss him off, personally. Anyone like this should be at least pushed into a direction where they realize they might be wrong...

Or at least bothered about it.
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I shave my head every summer but I already have so many other vices that I'm sure go against any organized religion I figure it a non-issue.

And I'd not wasted any time arguing with this guy. Arguments are better saved for someone you stand of chance of making understand where they are wrong.
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:25 PM   #22 (permalink)
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So that includes piercings? ...Damnit
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:39 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:02 AM   #24 (permalink)
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so what church does he attend? just curious as to which church/sect hold this belief?
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:06 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Also realize that much of religion exists solely outside of sacred writings.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:45 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I'd have him read the rest of Leviticus and ask him if he follows all of it, or if he just picks and chooses.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:51 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I'd have him read the rest of Leviticus and ask him if he follows all of it, or if he just picks and chooses.
Seriously. The law gets laid down old-school in Leviticus, and I've found that not a single modern Christian follows all the rules presented there. The argument presented back to me as to why centers around the idea that because Jesus died on the cross for our sins, we don't need to follow the old rules.

If you're going to literally interpret the Bible, shouldn't you at least be consistent?
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:01 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Leviticus, Greek for "for the levites," is historically viewed as a set of rules and rituals for priests, not the common society. There's a reason that most of Leviticus is ignored by Christians (and even Jews) - it's not really intended to apply to them. Taking any of the rules as "rules for the masses" is a dramatic misunderstanding of the history of the Bible.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:50 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:10 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Also realize that much of religion exists solely outside of sacred writings.
I would argue that MOST of religion exists outside of sacred writings. If not, there would just be one christian group rather than the hundreds or possibly thousands out there.
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Old 05-24-2008, 01:55 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Leviticus, Greek for "for the levites," is historically viewed as a set of rules and rituals for priests, not the common society. There's a reason that most of Leviticus is ignored by Christians (and even Jews) - it's not really intended to apply to them. Taking any of the rules as "rules for the masses" is a dramatic misunderstanding of the history of the Bible.
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