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Old 07-06-2008, 08:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Most Obnoxious Tourists? The French
Friday, Jul. 04, 2008
Most Obnoxious Tourists? The French
By Bruce Crumley / Paris

Remember the tightwad tourist whose baggy shorts, frequent complaining and shouted questions about why none of the locals spoke any English made the ugly American the world's Visitor From Hell? Well, it's time for Archie Bunker to move over and make way for Petulant Pierre. According to a recent international survey, the French are now considered the most obnoxious tourists from European nations, and behind only Indians and the last-place Chinese as the worst among all countries worldwide. And it's not only the rest of the world that have a gripe with the Gallic attitude: the French also finished second to last among nations ranking the popularity of its own tourists who vacation at home.

But it's the unflattering image being reflected from abroad that may give pause to the millions of French travelers now heading off to summer vacation destinations across the globe. Will that move them to improve behavior the poll characterized as impolite, prone to loud carping and inattentive to local customs? If so, that's just the start: the study also describes the voyageur français as often unwilling or unable to communicate in foreign languages, and particularly disinclined to spending money when they don't have to — including on those non compris tips. Over all, French travelers landed 19th out of 21 nations worldwide, far behind the first-place Japanese, considered most polite, quiet and tidy. Following the Japanese as most-liked tourists were the Germans, British and Canadians. Americans finished in 11th place alongside the Thais.

The survey was carried out among employees in 4,000 hotels in Germany, the U.K., Italy, France, Canada and the U.S. for the French travel website Expedia.fr. The study asked respondents to rank clients by nationality on criteria of general attitude, politeness, tendency to complain, willingness to speak local languages, interest in sampling local cuisine, readiness to spend money, generosity, cleanliness, discretion and elegance. Many replies simply conformed to long-established reputations: Italians, for example, were deemed most style-conscious, and the French the best-dressed tourists.

American tourists fared well in some surprising ways: despite being notoriously language-limited, for example, they top the list of tourists credited with trying to speak local languages the most, with the French, Chinese, Japanese, Italians and Russians coming in last in the local language rankings. Does that mean Americans are the most polyglot tourists on the planet? Maybe not, says Expedia's marketing director for Europe, Timothée de Roux, who notes the poll's focus on hotel operators may explain the counter-intuitive outcome.

"Most hotel staffs around the world speak English, meaning they'll communicate far more easily with native English-speaking American or British clients than with French or Italians who — it's true — are pretty bad with foreign languages," de Roux says.

De Roux explains how external factors similarly account for why Americans wind up as the biggest-spending and best-tipping tourists, while Germans and the French are among the worst penny-pinchers. "Our findings show the average French employee will get 37 vacation days spread over seven trips in 2008, versus 14 for an American — who won't even take them all," de Roux believes. "That means the French tourist will more tightly budget his or her spending over more trips, while the American spends freely on the one or two vacations taken all year."

By contrast, poll finds the French and Americans similar in being perceived as critical and rude when they travel — though for different reasons. The same local attractions that make France the world's top destination for 92 million foreign visitors each year, says de Roux, also explains why over 85% of French vacation in-country — and wind up spoiled by it when they leave. "When they go abroad, French travellers demand the same quality they'd get at home,? de Roux says. "Americans, by contrast, demand the same exceptional service they are used to at home, which is why they rank as the loudest, most inclined to complain, and among the least polite."
Every year we hear of who's ranked the highest and the lowest, blah blah blah. We've hashed out the tip that don't happen in the US by foreigners.

I don't interact with many tourists aside from having to walk around them or through them as they stand in the middle of the sidewalk, top of the escalator, in front of the turnstile. I can't tell where they are from more often than not, but they range all colors and all languages I can pick up.

When we travel, I'm not sure what the impression is, but I know that we don't interact with many other tourist as we like to go off the beaten paths and find outselves surrounded by locals. We try to be polite, try to speak in the local language as best as we can when reading menus and directions. Again, I'm not so sure what the impression or impact is because we travel on shoulder season either before or after the masses of tourists come to town.

Right now we're trying to figure out where to go next, Mexico, Spain, Tunisia were on the short list. Not really sure what we'll do to be the tourist this year.
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Old 07-06-2008, 08:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I waited on a lovely couple from the UK last night. The woman told me that it was difficult to find white zinfandel across the pond. They were traveling to beautiful Hilton Head, South Carolina.

Living in a burgeoning city, it's always a pleasure to show hospitality to foreign guests.

When I spent sometime overseas, I was disappointed in my fellow Americans in that many of them were critical of "weird food" or "backwards" practices.

As far as our tour guide in Beijing, she shared that she didn't like Spoiler: a sensitive nationality due to being cheap.

By the way, I loved visiting New York in February; you live in a great city, Cynthetiq.

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Old 07-06-2008, 09:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It is nice to see that Canada is high on the list. It is interesting to see that the French are the most rude. I wonder if Canada's ranking is negatively affected at all by our 25% French Canadian population when they travel.

Unless if the French Canadians are different when travelling abroad, they can be downright impolite by demanding it is their God given right to speak their language unconditionally at all times, and everyone should learn French just to appease that desire.

Funny also is the Brits high standing. Maybe I'm just confusing impolite with pompous. And the Japanese. That from my perspective is deserved. They are always happy and polite, and their little kids are so gosh darn cute.
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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No, just you... you're special.

I wonder where Italians are on the list, Maybe I didn't read the article through very well but I only saw where they ranked regarding language.

My hotel owning friend can't stand Italian tourists. A topic which ironically came up when we were discussing how we agreed everyone should be judged based on their individual traits and not their nationality. He said he's turned away several Italians over the years simply because they were jerks while trying to check-in. He suddenly realizes he doesn't have any rooms open. He said he always sends them to one of his competitors he doesn't care much for, who's an aunt of his (I didn't ask.)

We were also discussing my then Italian neighbors who I thought/think are jerks. They freaking complain about everything and seemingly think everyone is out to rip them off.
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I wonder where Italians are on the list, Maybe I didn't read the article through very well but I only saw where they ranked regarding language.

My hotel owning friend can't stand Italian tourists. A topic which ironically came up when we were discussing how we agreed everyone should be judged based on their individual traits and not their nationality. He said he's turned away several Italians over the years simply because they were jerks while trying to check-in. He suddenly realizes he doesn't have any rooms open. He said he always sends them to one of his competitors he doesn't care much for, who's an aunt of his (I didn't ask.)

We were also discussing my then Italian neighbors who I thought/think are jerks. They freaking complain about everything and seemingly think everyone is out to rip them off.
I find this ironic simply because of all the places hubby has traveled, he disliked Italy most. He really didn't care for Rome at all and said many of the Romans he met were out to rip off Americans.
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:51 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 07-06-2008, 02:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It seems that a high percentage of French Canadians I encounter at various eastern shore resort towns are exceptionally rude and crude. I've heard other people around here say the same thing.
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Old 07-06-2008, 02:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It seems that a high percentage of French Canadians I encounter at various eastern shore resort towns are exceptionally rude and crude. I've heard other people around here say the same thing.
I know the Italian-Canadian neighbors I had over the past winter hated French-Canadian especially the folks from Quebec. Then again they seemingly hated everyone, so??
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"Our findings show the average French employee will get 37 vacation days spread over seven trips in 2008, versus 14 for an American — who won't even take them all,....

....The same local attractions that make France the world's top destination for 92 million foreign visitors each year,.....
The French are significantly more productive per capita, than Americans, they are more successful at controlling the dominance of the wealthy over every one else, than the bulk of the population in the US has been, and they live in a country more popular with tourists than we do....so it's hard not to admire them and give them credit where it is due....and to ask each other in the US, WTF is wrong with us? Why are we so lacking in employer and government provided benefits, in leisure time, and in financial and social security for our families, especially in time of unforseen and unplanned crisis, like sudden serious illness? Why have we so cooperatively ceded so much of what the average man in French enjoys, to the wealthiest and most powerful? Some of us even take satisfaction in the way things are here. Did I mention that the French enjoy balanced trade, while we borrow $800 billion per year to finance our imports?

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LAS VEGAS (AP) — Despite the weak U.S. dollar, a boom in international travel around the world hasn't translated into an explosion of foreign tourists to the United States.

Explanations range from post-9/11 security headaches and lower airfares elsewhere to poor marketing by the U.S. Whatever the cause, travel industry experts say the U.S. is missing an opportunity to make up for the shortfall in domestic tourism caused by high fuel prices.

At Heli USA Airways, one of several operators that whisk visitors on aerial tours of the Las Vegas Strip and nearby Grand Canyon, vice president of marketing and sales John Power said the faltering U.S. economy and competition from other countries are crimping business.

"Right now, there's some other worldwide destinations that are taking some of the marketplace," said Power.

According to the U.N. World Tourism Organization, the United States had 51 million international visitors in 2000, more than 7 percent of the 682 million international arrivals worldwide. But as international arrivals worldwide jumped to 846 million in 2006, the U.S. saw roughly the same number of visitors as it used to — dropping its share to 6 percent.

The U.S. share of international tourism dollars has slipped too, though the U.S. still drew more money than any other single country in 2006 and more than it did in 2000. From 16 percent of the market in 2000, or $82.4 billion, the U.S. took in 12 percent of the $733 billion worldwide tourism market, or $86 billion in 2006.

Major destinations such as Los Angeles, Orlando, San Francisco, Miami, Honolulu, Las Vegas, Chicago, Washington, D.C., and Boston all saw 20 percent to 34 percent fewer travelers in 2006 compared with 2000. Of the top 10 cities, only New York saw more visitors in 2006 than in 2000, with a 9 percent increase to 6.2 million arrivals, according to the U.S. Commerce Department.

Nearly 26 million people traveled to the United States from overseas in 2000. But that dropped drastically after 9/11, according to data from the U.S. Commerce Department's Office of Travel & Tourism Industries. The number bottomed out in 2003 with 18 million overseas visitors, and with 24 million last year still had not returned to previous levels. The figures do not include visitors from Canada and Mexico, whose numbers are up substantially from 2000 but who tend to spend less than other international travelers to the U.S.

Part of the problem is the perception of frosty U.S. attitudes toward foreigners starting at customs, said Roger Dow, president of the Travel Industry Association. That and other factors make it difficult to attract more overseas travelers.

The U.S. should decode its complex entry rules and boost staffing at customs checkpoints, Dow and others said.

"The perception is in spades that we're less welcoming" than other countries, he said.

Vivian Dapal of EuroUSA, a travel agency that caters to groups from Europe, Asia and the Middle East, and Theresa Belpusi, who promotes Washington, D.C., with Destination DC, said American airports are particularly confusing.

"I don't think that people are questioning that we're trying to get our arms around security," Belpusi said. But she said the government should communicate better with "the people that are probably affected the most" — the tourists.

Frequent U.S. visitor George Somerville, of Glasgow, Scotland, said international flights are generally cheaper to places other than the United States.

"In the last 12 months, destinations my colleagues have traveled to include China twice, Singapore, India and Thailand," he said. "Much of that is to do with the price of flights — Air Asia, Emirates and Singapore airlines are doing great deals from the U.K."

Somerville, 40, called customs here a "daunting prospect" that requires fingerprints and retinal scans.

Some in the travel industry also blame how the U.S. markets itself abroad.

Paula Bohaty, a group travel manager for the Nebraska Division of Travel & Tourism, said the industry would benefit from marketing smaller destinations that foreign travelers aren't familiar with and from pitching experiences foreign travelers find novel — like working on a farm.

Top destination cities are spending millions to promote themselves abroad and often compete with one another for foreign visitors, meaning less-obvious destinations with smaller marketing budgets have trouble being heard.

The industry is pushing a bill that would impose a fee on overseas travelers — to be matched by the industry, for about $200 million in all — to fund marketing to foreign visitors and communication of U.S. visa rules. Dow said other countries already do the same.

"It's public diplomacy on the cheap," he said.

The bill has been referred to a House subcommittee and is awaiting a vote in the Senate.

Meantime, Power said his Las Vegas tour company would continue pushing for foreign travelers, but he called on all players to step up.

"Whose customers are they really? Is it the airline, is it the hotel they stay at, is it the sightseeing operator that they go to do an experience with, is it the car rental company?" Power asked. "Ultimately, they're everybody's, and everybody's got to be on the same page."
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Old 07-06-2008, 03:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Last year, we went to the Grand Canyon. There was a very odd French family there. The father daughter relationship was a bit creepy and the other people in the group were rude.

Generally, I'm not a fan of tourist behavior, at least in Chicago. I'm sure the majority are fine, but it seems that there are the ones that have the mentality that they are on vacation so fuck everyone else. Which equates to, I'm going to be loud and obnoxious or take up the whole sidewalk and 'gawk and walk' because I haven't seen buildings this tall before. Plus, they're under the assumption that since they're in a city and city people are rude they must be that way to fit in... Nice, love that attitude.
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i've never been anyplace...how does one act someplace else?
Never the same way they act anywhere else.
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We get a lot of tourists here but most of them are Asian so I can't tell if they are being more or less obnoxious than ordinary as I am not familiar with the various Asian stereotypes (can you tell me how a Burmese tourist differs from a Philippino one?).

I do see a number of western tourists here, and have helped any number of them find their way. They have ranged from backpackers to business travellers and they have all been rather pleasant. Perhaps the greater distance to get here keeps bar high in terms of quality of tourist.
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The French are significantly more productive per capita, than Americans, they are more successful at controlling the dominance of the wealthy over every one else, than the bulk of the population in the US has been, and they live in a country more popular with tourists than we do....so it's hard not to admire them and give them credit where it is due....and to ask each other in the US, WTF is wrong with us? Why are we so lacking in employer and government provided benefits, in leisure time, and in financial and social security for our families, especially in time of unforseen and unplanned crisis, like sudden serious illness? Why have we so cooperatively ceded so much of what the average man in French enjoys, to the wealthiest and most powerful? Some of us even take satisfaction in the way things are here. Did I mention that the French enjoy balanced trade, while we borrow $800 billion per year to finance our imports?
methinks the intent of this thread is not political, thank you very much...
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We get a lot of tourists here but most of them are Asian so I can't tell if they are being more or less obnoxious than ordinary as I am not familiar with the various Asian stereotypes (can you tell me how a Burmese tourist differs from a Philippino one?).

I do see a number of western tourists here, and have helped any number of them find their way. They have ranged from backpackers to business travellers and they have all been rather pleasant. Perhaps the greater distance to get here keeps bar high in terms of quality of tourist.
I think the closeness of my local to the US and Canada creates an opposite effect, so I think you could be onto something there. The stuff the tourist do and say here blows me away. Some of my favorites are "How much is that in real money?" and "This would be a nice beach if it weren't for all the Mexicans."

But I have to admit I've said and done some pretty stupid things while on vacation, hopefully not as bad as the ones I've posted above. I think it's easy to just put your brain in sleep mode while vacationing. Kind of like for 48 weeks out of the year you're "on duty," suddenly you're not. Suddenly you're carefree... and it shows.

I was at Yellowstone National Park one time and heard a lady ask a ranger "what time at night do you put the animals away?" I thought she was joking, she wasn't.
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Oddly enough from my retail working years in a region that gets A LOT of Canadian traffic, I would have no problem saying my least favorite group of people were the French-Canadians.

They are loud. They are rude. They are fucking messy.

Then they act like they don't speak English around you, but 10 seconds late you hear them speaking it to their friends. Fuck em'

And this goes for a lot of them that I've met over the years.

Also whats with the Jamaica-Canadians? They are like your ghetto of Canada. They come over on these bus trips for mass-retail shopping.

I am so glad I'm done with that. They were worse than your French, or could be of the same. They were always around each other.

My fav?

Germans, Swedes, Norwegians, Hispanic/Latinos.
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Also whats with the Jamaica-Canadians? They are like your ghetto of Canada. They come over on these bus trips for mass-retail shopping.
Still? You'd think with the C dollar and the US dollar being so equal there wouldn't be any point.
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methinks the intent of this thread is not political, thank you very much...
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......"Our findings show the average French employee will get 37 vacation days spread over seven trips in 2008, versus 14 for an American — who won't even take them all,".....
The entire Op article is political...from the disparity in the amount of vacation time, to this, also in the OP:
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The French clearly enjoy superiority in quality of living....the article highlights that....to ignore it is what.....???? Is your point to ignore this superiority, and is ignoring it, not political, too? The article is correct.....something is wrong, but "the French behaving badly" is only one small dimension of what is wrong.

The French may be arrogant, and folks in the hospitality industry may be bothered by how they behave. Why is it not appropriate to react to and discuss the other, possibly even more interesting and significant information in the OP article? France is "the" destination, of all vacation destinations in the world, despite the impediment of a very strong currency (expensive) now in France. Why is that?

I tried to show reasons for that, by sharing an article describing the decline in foreign tourism to the US. The French enjoy the most vacation days, why is that.....what does it mean? The article mentions how few vacation days Americans, on average, get....and it states that Americans do not even "take" all of those many fewer days....why is that?

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Still? You'd think with the C dollar and the US dollar being so equal there wouldn't be any point.

In Pa, USA:

No sales tax on clothes, shoes, and other essential items.

And what is taxed is only 6%
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The entire Op article is political...from the disparity in the amount of vacation time, to this, also in the OP:


The French clearly enjoy superiority in quality of living....the article highlights that....to ignore it is what.....???? Is your point to ignore this superiority, and is ignoring it, not political, too? The article is correct.....something is wrong, but "the French behaving badly" is only one small dimension of what is wrong.

The French may be arrogant, and folks in the hospitality industry may be bothered by how they behave. Why is it not appropriate to react to and discuss the other, possibly even more interesting and significant information in the OP article? France is "the" destination, of all vacation destinations in the world, despite the impediment of a very strong currency (expensive) now in France. Why is that?

I tried to show reasons for that, by sharing an article describing the decline in foreign tourism to the US. The French enjoy the most vacation days, why is that.....what does it mean? The article mentions how few vacation days Americans, on average, get....and it states that Americans do not even "take" all of those many fewer days....why is that?
The political issues you quoted are in the OP or in the article linked to the OP?

I read the OP and I see a topic and a discussion of how tourists from differing nationalities are perceived by their host nationalities.

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No sales tax on clothes, shoes, and other essential items.

And what is taxed is only 6%
Makes sense I guess. Wonder how many actually end up saving anything? I mean by the time they pay travel costs?
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The political issues you quoted are in the OP or in the article linked to the OP?

I read the OP and I see a topic and a discussion of how tourists from differing nationalities are perceived by their host nationalities.
Part of what you see are the comments of people who are employed in the service of the French tourists who they are complaining about. French tourists who enjoy much more vacation time and benefits than the people working to serve them, who are the judges of their behavior, as far as the "findings" in the article are concerned.....

Not exactly impartial opinions of the conduct and attitude of the French tourists, at least from the way the information gathering included in the OP was obtained.

How is it that people of a country who are described and predicted to act so offensively when they travel, are the same people who vacation at home 85 percent of the time they are vacationing, are afforded ten percent of the entire calendar year as vacation days, and mostly vacation right alongside the huge influx of foreign tourists to their country? If the French are so objectionable, why is the rest of the world coming to their country in record numbers, to vacation alongside the natives of France?

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Old 07-06-2008, 06:27 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The French are significantly more productive per capita, than Americans, they are more successful at controlling the dominance of the wealthy over every one else, than the bulk of the population in the US has been, and they live in a country more popular with tourists than we do....so it's hard not to admire them and give them credit where it is due....and to ask each other in the US, WTF is wrong with us? Why are we so lacking in employer and government provided benefits, in leisure time, and in financial and social security for our families, especially in time of unforseen and unplanned crisis, like sudden serious illness? Why have we so cooperatively ceded so much of what the average man in French enjoys, to the wealthiest and most powerful? Some of us even take satisfaction in the way things are here. Did I mention that the French enjoy balanced trade, while we borrow $800 billion per year to finance our imports?
While that may be the interest you have, the other posters in this thread do not seem to see the same connection.

If this is how you view the world, I guess it's a sad world since you cannot enjoy the simplest of things and understand nor appreciate them for their simplicity.

Sometimes a simple setting of wine and cheese is just wine and cheese, not a metaphor or apparent discussion of Appellation d’origine contrôlée and how the government regulation creates hindrences to the small farmer.

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The entire Op article is political...from the disparity in the amount of vacation time, to this, also in the OP:

The French clearly enjoy superiority in quality of living....the article highlights that....to ignore it is what.....???? Is your point to ignore this superiority, and is ignoring it, not political, too? The article is correct.....something is wrong, but "the French behaving badly" is only one small dimension of what is wrong.

The French may be arrogant, and folks in the hospitality industry may be bothered by how they behave. Why is it not appropriate to react to and discuss the other, possibly even more interesting and significant information in the OP article? France is "the" destination, of all vacation destinations in the world, despite the impediment of a very strong currency (expensive) now in France. Why is that?

I tried to show reasons for that, by sharing an article describing the decline in foreign tourism to the US. The French enjoy the most vacation days, why is that.....what does it mean? The article mentions how few vacation days Americans, on average, get....and it states that Americans do not even "take" all of those many fewer days....why is that?
If it was to be a discussion on politics, then it would have been placed in the politics forum. It was placed in general discussion because well, it's a general discussion on the idea of the Ugly Tourist, not the Geopolitical Tourist or the Political Tourist Destinations.

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Maybe you need a couple more tools.

I just have to ask, when someone talks to you about the weather do you reply with some sort of geopolitical rant about how the industiralized nations are creating acid rain and polluting the estuaries and watersheds? Or is is just as simple as, "It's rainy weather we're having lately."

I doubt that the French Muslims that live in the ghettos of Paris that rioted in 2005 and again in 2007 enjoy that same wealth and prosperity.

Ninth Nights of Riots NYtimes.com 2005   click to show 


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+1. i host people from all over the world all the time and this is nothing more than stereotyping.
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+1. i host people from all over the world all the time and this is nothing more than stereotyping.
I really do agree with this.

I found it really ironic that during my conversation with my hotel owning friend he would agree whole heartedly with the concept of "people are people, regardless." Then qualify it with "Well, except for the Italians, they're all assholes." I remember thinking "doesn't that completely negate the last ten minutes of our conversation?"
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learn to live with other people dammit. we all have short comings no matter where we're from.

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