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Old 04-02-2010, 04:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Westboro baptist Church and the Ensuing case

I was watching TV at the chowhall the other night and saw a story on Westboro Baptist Church, and LCpl Matthew Snyder's father's lawsuit(s) against them. He claims emotional duress. I was wondering what opinions you all might have about this. As a fellow Marine, I want nothing more than to take aim and drop bodies, but as an American I recognize the value and importance of the right to free speech. What they were doing was hateful, malicious, and intentionally disruptive, but should anything actually be done?

It's been suggested that there be a limit as to how close protestors can get at a funeral, but that could be overcome with megaphones. It's going to be a close case, and I eagerly await the beginning of the Supreme Court trial.
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Old 04-02-2010, 04:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The best thing to do with Westboro is to diffuse them. You can't confront them and ignoring them is irresponsible. Go to wherever they protest with your own innocuous or funny sign and make a mockery of them. Just stand there with your absurd sign, among them. If they move, move with them. If they touch you, get it on film and sue their church.

My favorite sign at a Westboro protest is "I have a sign" and "God hates signs".
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Old 04-02-2010, 05:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Fuck them.

Seriously got nothing else to add.

Just fuck them.
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Old 04-02-2010, 05:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Very good idea Will. Perhaps a bunch of gays can follow them and make out where ever they protest.
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Old 04-02-2010, 05:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Very good idea Will. Perhaps a bunch of gays can follow them and make out where ever they protest.
It's been known to happen.



FWIW, I buried a buddy at Arlington National in 2008. His funeral was supposed to be protested by the Westboro douches. Upon learning of this, the other pallbearers and I decided to go against tradition and wear civilian suits instead of our uniforms so as to not to "discredit" the Army.

At the last minute, the protesters skipped my friends funeral so they could protest Heath Ledgers. It was probably in their best interest.
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Old 04-02-2010, 09:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I talked to Marge Phelps once, she donated to the public radio station I was working at. I took her pledge and felt the urge to say, you know we have gay people on staff?

After getting to know their family and seeing them in the media I have a theory. I don't think they're really into what they say. I think they do it for the publicity. If nobody came and took pictures of them, they would figure out something else.

They do get a lot of money from anonymous donors. Fred Phelps himself was a major donor to Al Gore's campaign, all the while making All Gore posters depicting him in an unsavory way.

Maybe some of the younger generation of Phelps's believes God hates fags, but I think Fred and Marge are either doing it for the publicity, or are mentally disturbed. That could be the case, the only child to break free from the family has accused them of physical abuse. Plus Fred was sued by a lesbian Topeka council woman for assault.

And the church? The only members allowed are from the family. All those protesters are related. I'm guessing they're not so against incest.
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Old 04-03-2010, 06:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I just found out these cretins are going to protest at a friend's college. I fired off an email yesterday to the head of their LGBT club on campus and much to my delight they were already well aware of WBC intentions. They directed me to this site .

I think these folks have the right idea, peaceable visual obstruction and non-confrontation.
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Old 04-03-2010, 06:53 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Honestly, I wish they would come back to DC just so I can go and hold up a goofy sign.

GOD HATES BAGS!

You kind of have to know what's going on here with that to get it.
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I would welcome the populace shaming the westboro people- seriously, if every business refused them service, and everyone around them shunned them, things would get rather difficult for them, or at least uncomfortable- my other suggestion runs to bringing back public dueling, and that would lead to its own problems (though I contend it would be hilarious enough to justify the carnage, and thin the herd quite a bit too)....
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Honestly, I wish they would come back to DC just so I can go and hold up a goofy sign.

GOD HATES BAGS!

You kind of have to know what's going on here with that to get it.
Don't forget that, according to the Bible, God hates figs. Dude's kid hella murdered a fig tree like a mofo.
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:50 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The best way to deal with them protesting near you is to start two tables for charities wherever they are protesting.

First Table is to donate to support the troops and their families.

Second Table is to donate to GLBS (Gay rights group)... and sign the donations as the Westboro Babtist Church. If you have the GLBS send thank you letters in return it'd be beautiful.

They will not be defeated by returning the hate... use their publicity to defeat them with their own methods.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The best thing to do with Westboro is to diffuse them. You can't confront them and ignoring them is irresponsible. Go to wherever they protest with your own innocuous or funny sign and make a mockery of them. Just stand there with your absurd sign, among them. If they move, move with them. If they touch you, get it on film and sue their church.

My favorite sign at a Westboro protest is "I have a sign" and "God hates signs".




Although this is probably my favorite.
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