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Old 06-21-2010, 05:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Negros in the Census

so, whilst trolling around on the internet, I "stumbled" upon a site that shows the census Race section since the 1700s. I didn't realize that, in 2010, we still describe black people as "negros." My first response is WTF. Is this an acceptable label for anyone these days? If so I was unaware...

Racebox.org - The Census since 1790

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Old 06-21-2010, 05:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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As you can see, it lists Black, African American, and Negro. They're covering the bases just in case there are old-fashioned people out there I guess.

Yeah, the word is quite archaic and even insulting to some. Think of the words Negroid, Negress, and Jewess, etc.---all quite archaic and probably offensive.

You get the same issue with the indigenous peoples in North America. It isn't clear what they prefer to use to identify them, and many don't care. However, you get Native American, First Nations, etc. And within certain peoples, you get issues. For example, the Inuit are no longer called Eskimos, and the various peoples of Asia are no longer considered Oriental.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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My friend in college was taught by his mother to identify himself as Negro and never African American. Negro is simply an older term for Blacks (latin origin), and was actually the PC term for a long time.

There's a reason there are multiple lines for the same race. It's a complex historical and political history, for which self identification is important. I'm sure my friends mother would have been angry if it wasn't on the list.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That is there because in the 2000 census so many people identified as "other - negro" that it was more efficient to add it back despite the current political incorrectness. Like it or not, it helps to make sure people are represented properly.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That's the government for you. Personally, I felt proud to stand up and be counted amongst my coreligionist Hebrews and Israelitish-Americans.
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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As a child in Alabama I had friends who referred to themselves as "negro". As I got older they began to refer to themselves as "African American". Suddenly, at some point that changed to "black". I usually asked my friends what they preferred and went with that. I looked at the US Census website and this is the official statement on the term "negro" being used on the census form.

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/about/whole.php

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In this day and age, why is the word “Negro” included as part of the race question on the 2010 Census form?

The wording of the race category labeled “Black, African Am., or Negro” is based on Office of Management and Budget standards and Census Bureau research that showed a segment of the population still identifies itself as “Negro.” The Census Bureau has a research team dedicated to investigating issues and analyzing data on the nation’s diverse racial and ethnic groups. The Census Bureau is testing the removal of the term “Negro” from the question on race, and results of this research will inform design changes for future surveys and the 2020 Census. We are sorry if some are offended by the use of this word in the 2010 Census and hope that it will not stop them from returning their forms and being fully counted by the census.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I wonder why "White" has no qualifiers?
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:47 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:19 AM   #9 (permalink)
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My wife read an article that said the reason it's still on there is because last time it was left off and some blacks complained because it was their preferred term. Now it's included, and of course people are complaining on the other side as well.
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:34 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 06-23-2010, 11:43 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Meh. My only beef with the census was that it lists "Colombian, Salvadorian, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese" as if nationality and "race" are somehow the same thing.

FWIW, I described myself simply as "American".
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Why don't we go by blood type? This race/ethnicity shit is a bunch of Dr. Seuss nonsense.

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This reminds me of the bang-someone-of-a-different-skin-color thread I was supposed to start.
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I was going to say that it was very star belly sneeches.

I pick american too but my cousins put filipino american.
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Why don't we go by blood type? This race/ethnicity shit is a bunch of Dr. Seuss nonsense.

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This reminds me of the bang-someone-of-a-different-skin-color thread I was supposed to start.
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Old 06-27-2010, 08:13 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I wonder why "White" has no qualifiers?
you know that being White doesn't really count as having a race. it seems like it's more often considered to be a non-race. You are either one of a dozen darker-skinned nationalities, or you are "white."
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Old 06-27-2010, 11:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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hey now, we have "Caucasian"
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Old 07-03-2010, 03:57 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Check out this page. Sure surprised me. It's as if it was written 100 years ago.

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Old 07-04-2010, 12:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Why don't we go by blood type? This race/ethnicity shit is a bunch of Dr. Seuss nonsense.

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This reminds me of the bang-someone-of-a-different-skin-color thread I was supposed to start.
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