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Old 01-16-2004, 09:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Dumb lawsuits that people won

I have heard a couple lawsuits that the person sued a company and won even though it was their own idiotic behaviors that caused the problem.
A guy was driving a motor home he put the thing on cruise control and went back to make a sandwich. The vehical went off the road and he was hurt. He sued the company for a million dollars and the cost of a new motor home because it didnt say in the manual that you couldnt leave the steering wheel. Now the manual states cruise control still needs person driving the vehical.

Aother woman won a lawsuit against Burger King. The mother took her children to Burger King for supper everyday and because of it her children are now overweight. She said that no one informed her that her children could gain weight from eating so much fast food.

A woman walking through a store and triped over a child in the middle of the isle and broke her leg. She sued the store for negligance and won. The catcher was it was her OWN child that she tripped over.
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Old 01-16-2004, 09:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have heard all of these and many, many more. I took a business law class several years ago and learned how smart really stupid people can be. If you can make $500,000 for breaking into a warehouse via the skylights, falling and breaking your leg, and suing the company for lack of secure locks on the skylight windows, you are pretty ingenious in my book.
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Old 01-16-2004, 09:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The one that pissed me off the most was when some lady sued McDonald's because she burned her lip on a pickle from a FRESHLY made cheeseburger. Oh My Gawd I wanted to sock that lady in the face for being retarded. I still can't believe she won that case too.
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Old 01-16-2004, 09:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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This kind of thing happens all to often. Hopefully it will come to a quick halt, but unfortuantely I don't see that happening any time soon, or ever for that matter.
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Old 01-16-2004, 09:59 AM   #5 (permalink)
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how the hell do you burn your lip on a pickle, i thought that it was coffee, anyways yes all those law suits are fucked up.
only in America can you get rich off your own stupidity
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Old 01-16-2004, 10:01 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I heard there was a coffee and pickle lawsuit but I could be wrong. Either way, they are gay.
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Old 01-16-2004, 10:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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They may be stupid, but now their rich. I think it's time we all try to find loopholes and the such to exploit companies and get rich quick
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Old 01-16-2004, 10:36 AM   #8 (permalink)
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how the hell do you burn your lip on a pickle, i thought that it was coffee, anyways yes all those law suits are fucked up.
only in America can you get rich off your own stupidity
There was two McDonalds lawsuits, one involved coffee and an older woman. The lady put her coffee between her legs when she was driving, mind you the top was off of the cup and it had steam coming off of it. As the story goes for reason the woman had to stop suddenly, the liquid comes out of the cup and burned her. She sued because no one told her that the coffee was hot. That's why the cups now say caution hot liquid or contents or something like that.

It may be just me, but if I'm buying coffee it's because I thought it was hot, not cold...
And I donít know what the 2nd lawsuit was about.


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I have heard all of these and many, many more. I took a business law class several years ago and learned how smart really stupid people can be. If you can make $500,000 for breaking into a warehouse via the skylights, falling and breaking your leg, and suing the company for lack of secure locks on the skylight windows, you are pretty ingenious in my book.
What about the robber that sued the homeowner for shooting him after the robber had broken into the guy's house. That took some thought, if I remember the homeowner actually had to pay for the robbers doctor bill... Its sad to think but the homeowner might have been better off if his shot had killed the robber, no court is going to convict someone for shooting a robber that broke into your house at midnight.
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Old 01-16-2004, 10:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
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When my Dad used to work for Stelco when he was 18. He heard of stories such as some workers, during the break, like to go on top of the roof of the factory and go naked to get some tanning done during their break. But a supervisor found out that this was happening and suspended them all with no pay. As a result, the union sued and threaten to go on strike. As a result, the guys that were tanning ended up still suspended, WITH pay.

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Old 01-16-2004, 10:58 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I know I started this thread But spived2 said it best.

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They may be stupid, but now their rich. I think it's time we all try to find loopholes and the such to exploit companies and get rich quick
I wonder if I could sue credit card companys for making it to easy to spend money, and have to claim bankrupcy because I didnt have the money to pay the monthly payments...
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Old 01-16-2004, 11:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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There was two McDonalds lawsuits, one involved coffee and an older woman. The lady put her coffee between her legs when she was driving, mind you the top was off of the cup and it had steam coming off of it. As the story goes for reason the woman had to stop suddenly, the liquid comes out of the cup and burned her. She sued because no one told her that the coffee was hot. That's why the cups now say caution hot liquid or contents or something like that.
Please stick to the actual facts please.

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Stella Liebeck of Albuquerque, New Mexico, was in the passenger seat of
her grandson's car
when she was severely burned by McDonalds' coffee in
February 1992. Liebeck, 79 at the time, ordered coffee that was served
in a styrofoam cup at the drivethrough window of a local McDonalds.

After receiving the order, the grandson pulled his car forward and
stopped momentarily so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her
coffee. (Critics of civil justice, who have pounced on this case, often
charge that Liebeck was driving the car or that the vehicle was in
motion when she spilled the coffee; neither is true.
) Liebeck placed
the cup between her knees and attempted to remove the plastic lid from
the cup. As she removed the lid, the entire contents of the cup spilled
into her lap.

The sweatpants Liebeck was wearing absorbed the coffee and held it next
to her skin. A vascular surgeon determined that Liebeck suffered full
thickness burns (or third-degree burns) over 6 percent of her body,
including her inner thighs, perineum, buttocks, and genital and groin
areas. She was hospitalized for eight days, during which time she
underwent skin grafting. Liebeck, who also underwent debridement
treatments, sought to settle her claim for $20,000, but McDonalds
refused.
Third degree burns on 6 percent on your body in two to seven seconds.. no much you can do to stop that.

You usually buy coffee to drink it right away, and therefore keeping the coffee so hot that you would burn your mouth and troath is not reasonable.

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Plaintiffs' expert, a scholar in thermodynamics applied to human skin
burns, testified that liquids, at 180 degrees, will cause a full
thickness burn to human skin in two to seven seconds. Other testimony
showed that as the temperature decreases toward 155 degrees, the extent
of the burn relative to that temperature decreases exponentially. Thus,
if Liebeck's spill had involved coffee at 155 degrees, the liquid would
have cooled and given her time to avoid a serious burn.
Link: http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

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Old 01-16-2004, 11:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 01-16-2004, 11:39 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Please stick to the actual facts please.

*shrugs* I was wrong, I was going off of memory of what I read in the papers years ago. I thought I was right, next time I won't state memory as fact till I google it... *shrugs*

Also, don't you have to heat the water to a boiling point to make coffee? Perhaps the woman had a fresh cup. The boiling point of water is 212 degrees Fahrenheit. Still even if the pot wasn't fresh more than likely it was kept on a warmer to keep the contents hot. I'd think most people would know better than to put a cup of something that hot in their lap because something like this could happen.

Most people I know buy coffee because it's hot and they blow on the contents to cool it off before they drink it.
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Old 01-16-2004, 11:54 AM   #14 (permalink)
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how the hell do you burn your lip on a pickle, i thought that it was coffee, anyways yes all those law suits are fucked up.
only in America can you get rich off your own stupidity
Yeah there we two guys from Russia in one of my Psych courses. They were laughing at all sorts of dumb cases. They pointed out that nothing like this happens over there.. as they also put commen sense into their practice. Its amazing really, we claim to be a superpower, yet when it comes to our courts... we can't rule some things about by simple common sense...
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Old 01-16-2004, 12:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 01-16-2004, 12:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Also, don't you have to heat the water to a boiling point to make coffee? Perhaps the woman had a fresh cup. The boiling point of water is 212 degrees Fahrenheit. Still even if the pot wasn't fresh more than likely it was kept on a warmer to keep the contents hot. I'd think most people would know better than to put a cup of something that hot in their lap because something like this could happen.

Most people I know buy coffee because it's hot and they blow on the contents to cool it off before they drink it.
The coffee wasn't "fresh". You don't drink next to boiling water, do you? 180-190 degrees is still too hot to drink.

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McDonalds also said during discovery that, based on a consultants
advice, it held its coffee at between 180 and 190 degrees fahrenheit to
maintain optimum taste. He admitted that he had not evaluated the
safety ramifications at this temperature. Other establishments sell
coffee at substantially lower temperatures, and coffee served at home is
generally 135 to 140 degrees.
They keep the coffee that hot, on purpose.

Something like what could happen? Usually coffee isn't hot enough to give you third degree burns in two to seven seconds. If the coffee would have been just a few degrees cooler she might not have gotten those burns, not to taht degree anyway.

Any suggestion where she should have put her cup, in a car, when trying to open it to add milk and sugar?
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Old 01-16-2004, 12:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
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lol- what people do to get money. Too bad they have not only made their own lives miserable (because you know they are still not happy) and that they choose to blame someone else for their actions.
 
Old 01-16-2004, 04:29 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Old 01-16-2004, 04:35 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The motor home thing with cruise control is a myth. Pure and simple myth.

And that lady with burns from McDonald's coffe, won because they were able to produce internal memo's and study's that serving seriously scalding hot coffee masks the taste of crappy coffee.

McDonald's made a hell of a lot more money on that law suit then the lady. Even disregarding the huge reduction applied by a court of appeals.

I am all for lawsuits of all kinds, frivolous or not.

I AM NOT for namby-pamby give away the bank juries who don't use common sense.

Here's a Jury award I'd like to see:

Plaintiff gets: $1.00
Plaintiff's attorney gets zero. NOT EVEN 1/3 of the plaintiff's award. Contract between Plaintiff and attorney, voided.
Plaintiff's attorney is required to pay all court costs.

Defendant attorney fees to be paid by the plaintiff.




Reasonable verdicts like that one on frivolous lawsuits would quickly...stem the tide of these actions.

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Old 01-16-2004, 06:33 PM   #20 (permalink)
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What about the robber that sued the homeowner for shooting him after the robber had broken into the guy's house. That took some thought, if I remember the homeowner actually had to pay for the robbers doctor bill... Its sad to think but the homeowner might have been better off if his shot had killed the robber, no court is going to convict someone for shooting a robber that broke into your house at midnight.
Heh my local town cop told me if someone is breaking into your house and you shoot him...make sure you kill him so he can't sue....
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Old 01-16-2004, 06:41 PM   #21 (permalink)
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God bless lawyers huh? imagine what a world without lawyers would be like... a happy place? o_0;;
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Old 01-16-2004, 06:46 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Frighteningly enough, my favorite local cop said the same thing- course I run an archaic weapons shop outa my house, so its gonna be a hell of a police report if I have to kill an intruder.....
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Old 01-16-2004, 09:06 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Here is one in which I was personally involved. Responding to a fire, with my lightbar on, the night was snowy, so I was taking my time. As I approached a T intersection where I would have to turn left, a vehicle approached from my left. I slowed and stopped 10' short of the stop sign, as the other guy had the right of way. He slammed on his brakes, left the roadway, ran over a few bushes and hit the left front of my truck. Then he sued me for being 'negligently stopped'. His reasoning was that he 'expected' me to run the stop sign, and when I complied with the rules of the road, I was therefore contributory to the accident.

My insurance company paid him.

I changed insurance carriers.
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Old 01-17-2004, 03:06 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Haha, stupid Americans!

What, it's true, admit it! Stupid! LOL
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Old 01-17-2004, 06:26 AM   #25 (permalink)
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The motor home thing with cruise control is a myth. Pure and simple myth.
Yup, if you look around on the net, some of lawsuits can proven to be false. Snopes has some common ones that ya hear about, along with the motor home. Here's the link: snopes
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Old 01-17-2004, 09:54 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Yeah .. then it's the situations that deserve to win that don't even come close to winning what the person should have won because of all these other people who sue for such trivial shit.
My son rode his bike thru a business parking lot and rode off the edge and after invesgiating his story I was a little pissed and took the company to court. One..the parking lot was like an obstical illusion and you couldn't tell it dropped off unless you right up on the drop off by then I could understand he didn't have time to brake. Two..the other side was another business parking lot and in some places of the drop .. of course where my son went off at was as high as the hood of a car.

But I think the real jerker for me in which I took the company to court for was my son broke his collar bone in two places because of this and his friend and my son went into the place and asked if they could use the phone and the manager told them no. I called this manager and asked if this was so and the dumb ass admitted it and had nerve to tell me that if they needed to make a call he would have loaned them the money for a pay phone, that the phone was business puposes only. It was a liqour store. Now please.. come on .. I asked that man if someone would have been shot in the lot if he would have called 911 and he said yes ... I then asked him whats the diffrence someone bleeding on the outside and someone possibly bleeding on the inside, in which we are very lucky he wasn't, and he didn't have much of an answer thats when I made up my mind if my son didn't heal right and it lead to surgery I was going to sue. In which it did and which I did and we came out 2 thou shy of paying all medical expenses.

Now my son has a metal plate... 9 screws and a wire holding his collar bone in place.. lost out on football.. and who knows what problems it will bring in his future and the kid didn't even win enough to pay for the doctor bills let alone problems that may occure. Why? Because of all the people that sue for pitiful reasonings and we got drug thru the system and made to look bad. I think the company should have been held accountable for more of their responsibility in this because they had a stupid manager. My kid walked two blocks with his friend pushing their bikes to a gas station close by in which they called home and by the time I got their evidently the gas station felt it was serious enough because my son kept knodding off they called an ambulance that pulled in at the same time I did.

So now comanpies get off easier because of pickles and coffee.
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Old 01-17-2004, 02:20 PM   #27 (permalink)
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i really dont know what disguists me more, the fact that people sue others for stupid shit, or the fact that it holds up in court and they win

out judicial system is SO FUCKED UP, as well as society is too. people are just as selfish and greedy as they are stupid. i really dont know how much longer society can stand to live like this before we just fail as a whole.
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