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Old 02-06-2004, 09:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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RICHLAND TOWNSHIP, Michigan (AP) -- A 12-year-old girl was recovering Thursday after being stabbed seven times aboard a school bus by a teenager who apparently attacked her at random.

The victim, a seventh-grader, was treated at a hospital and released. The 15-year-old suspect, a high school freshman, was in police custody.

The suspect told police she had been thinking about hurting or killing someone and decided to take a steak knife to school Wednesday. On the bus that afternoon, she picked out the girl sitting in front of her, police said.

"There was no provocation on the part of the victim," said Lt. Terry VanStreain of the Kalamazoo County Sheriff's Department. "They didn't know each other."

The victim was stabbed five times in the back and twice in the arm. She ran screaming to the front of the bus, and the driver pulled over to call police.

The suspected assailant "was just sitting" when officers arrived, VanStreain said. "There was no remorse. In fact, she was laughing."
Found it funny eh? I hope she finds jail funny too...
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Old 02-06-2004, 09:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What is going on lately... it seems to be some kind of epidemic or something. This is so sad. It's all about retaliation... I'd kick her ass.
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Old 02-06-2004, 09:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What the fuck is wrong with these kids???
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Old 02-06-2004, 10:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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this all falls on parenting and things going on in their kids lives that the parents aren't picking up on.

a sad, sad story. safety no longer has meaning.
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Old 02-06-2004, 10:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't think that we have a social concience anymore and the concequences of our actions are no longer an issue. Kids today just don't seem to give a shit about thier fellow man and everything is about personal wants or needs no matter how deviant.
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Old 02-06-2004, 11:06 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Such is the result of a victimist society. It isn't the girl's fault she stabbed the other child, nope society is to blame.

Episodes such as this will continue to happen until everyone picks up their responsibilities and is accountable for their action, or lack thereof.

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Old 02-06-2004, 11:27 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I wonder what video game she'll try to blame it on this time. Someone needs to stab her a few times just to see how good it feels.
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Old 02-06-2004, 11:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Where has all the morality in our society gone?
Just becasue we, as a society, have chosen not to believe in God, doesn't mean that we can just stop ignoring "godly" values. There has to be some absolutes, some rights and wrongs, and parents have to be resposible for teaching their children these things.
I feel sorry for both children in the news story above.
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Old 02-06-2004, 11:41 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I didnt like all of the people that I went to school with...doesn't mean I thought about bringing a knife in and stabbing one of them...wait, maybe I did, BUT I DIDN'T because that is basically wrong!
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Old 02-06-2004, 11:59 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I didnt like all of the people that I went to school with...doesn't mean I thought about bringing a knife in and stabbing one of them...wait, maybe I did, BUT I DIDN'T because that is basically wrong!

Hatred is not involved in this case

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The suspect told police she had been thinking about hurting or killing someone and decided to take a steak knife to school Wednesday. On the bus that afternoon, she picked out the girl sitting in front of her, police said.

"There was no provocation on the part of the victim," said Lt. Terry VanStreain of the Kalamazoo County Sheriff's Department. "They didn't know each other."
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Old 02-06-2004, 12:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Anyone wanna bet against me that this kid is a fucking drug addict loser?
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Old 02-06-2004, 12:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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My god, what IS the world coming to??

I can't beleive that they just did it at random?! There had to be at least SOME connection between the two. And if there wasn't, then that kid has some serious problems!
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Old 02-06-2004, 12:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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hurting someone at random, and for no reason at all, is a true sign of a disturbed individual
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Old 02-06-2004, 12:26 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Anyone wanna bet against me that this kid is a fucking drug addict loser?
Ehh...you're generalizing. I don't know about the "drug addict" part, but I'll definately agree with the "loser" part.
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Old 02-06-2004, 12:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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What the fuck is wrong with these kids???
all that goddamned rap music and violent videogames.....
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Old 02-06-2004, 01:00 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Anyone wanna bet against me that this kid is a fucking drug addict loser?
I'll take that bet. Drug addicts don't tend to have explosions of violence like this, at least, not people on drugs a 7th grader is likely to have access to. PHP, sure, but that's not 7th grade stuff. Stoners don't stab people, as a general rule.

Anyone want to bet against me that she'll be diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder or Schizophrenia?
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Old 02-06-2004, 01:14 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I agree with sixate for once, she probably is a drug addict. But drugs that her doctor gave her to make her "better" and she skipped her dose.

I blame prison movies. Damn those shanking other inmate scenes...see what it does to our youth!!?!?!?
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Old 02-06-2004, 01:45 PM   #18 (permalink)
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WTF, she was laughing when they got there.....
How can someone be that sadistic to stab someone and then laugh about it.
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Old 02-06-2004, 02:07 PM   #19 (permalink)
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She thinks that's funny? Let's introduce her to Mr. Smith of Florida and see if she still thinks its all *so* funny...

Let's see if random crime is funny when you're on the receiving end. Then, let's allow Mr. Smith to become someone's girlfriend.
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Old 02-06-2004, 02:47 PM   #20 (permalink)
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all that goddamned rap music and violent videogames.....
Er.

I'm not going to get into this discussion too heavily, because I always end up getting foamy at the mouth and inarticulate (joke =P ) when I hear people blame "violent video games" for things, but I'm just going to say that you're generalizing, and that's not fair to anyone involved.

Oh, and blaming violence on something like music or video games is a cop-out.


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Old 02-06-2004, 03:29 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It's all video games, music, and violent movies fault!!!


wait... im not working for the media or a right wing christian ass hole!

bad parenting, lack of creative output/input (music and art in schools anyone???) and sensless drugging up of kids on anti depressants and uppers.

YES THEY ARE DEPRESSED, no they do not need pills. PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR KIDS, you say you are trying to provide a good life for them, but your working everyday all day, you come home, plop down mcdonalds for them, while you crack open a box a wine and bitch at them for not cleaning the house. If you talked to them, they would maybe help out more, might not turn to illicit drugs, and hell then they wouldn't be depressed (from the drugs, or you not paying attention) and not need ritilin.

Also encourage kids to be motivated, have them play sports, AND play music/draw/paint/something with the brain. Doing one just isn't good enough.

Be a parent, don't let your TV be a parent.
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:37 PM   #22 (permalink)
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We need to bring back some old-school morals for these young girls. SHE'S A WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!!
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:40 PM   #23 (permalink)
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MooseMan, I think he was joking.

Anyways, that's pretty rediculous. In cases like this I think it's necessary to look into her family life too. That's just not normal.
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:48 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Ehh...you're generalizing. I don't know about the "drug addict" part, but I'll definately agree with the "loser" part.
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:50 PM   #25 (permalink)
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That is disturbing, and that girl has some major mental problems. No juvenille correction, just straight to prison is the only solution here.

Then see how much she likes getting stabbed by a random person.
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Old 02-06-2004, 04:15 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The bigger the population, the more people like this imho
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Old 02-06-2004, 04:48 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Shoot the parents. Better, let her stab the parents, give her a bigger knife.

The parents should be prosecuted.
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Old 02-06-2004, 04:53 PM   #28 (permalink)
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this all falls on parenting and things going on in their kids lives that the parents aren't picking up on.

a sad, sad story. safety no longer has meaning.
It isn't always the parents, sometimes the kid just doesn't do what is right. This kid should be put in jail for life..
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Old 02-06-2004, 05:00 PM   #29 (permalink)
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What the fuck is wrong with kids these days? Seems almost every other day some young kid is being stabbed. What are these parents doing at home, or rather not doing to make them do that?
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Old 02-06-2004, 05:23 PM   #30 (permalink)
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The parents cant watch the child forever. Odds are that the mom could be at work, the dad at work, and this could have happened before school when she was getting on the bus from her house. It is unfair to blame the parents for everything.
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Old 02-06-2004, 05:23 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Im gonna express my own opinion here and Honestly, I beleive that the kids beleive that nothing can hurt em and that they will get away with a year in juvy, when I was younger I believed a bullet couldnt kill me just because well I was young and I felt nothing could hurt me and I well have matured some. I dont know if these kids realize it but the government/police/law whatever are taking a stand to this shit and they arent just fucking around and sending this little toddlers to juvy they get 25 - life in prison. It isnt the parents fault most of the time either, Some people just totally ignore their parents and their parents have no control over what the child does no matter how hard they try... I dont know when these kids will realize that they wont be leaving that jail that they think is so easy on them until they turn 75 or something, your entire life spent in a 6x6 room with rapists, murderers, and all that shit.

The thing is, even with all this happening kids still do it.

Fucked up world....
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Old 02-06-2004, 05:27 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 02-06-2004, 06:13 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I just have a bit to say- This girl obviously had no empathy at all, maybe that is a problem for her.

Another is that we are safer than we think. How many children get on school buses everyday and drive to school and back with no problems at all? I'm pretty sure this is an isolated incident. It does reflect that something is wrong with our society though to have a child do something so tragic.
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Old 02-06-2004, 06:19 PM   #34 (permalink)
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What the fuck is wrong with kids these days? Seems almost every other day some young kid is being stabbed. What are these parents doing at home, or rather not doing to make them do that?

Where do you live that every other day some kid is getting stabbed?

I don't really think there is anything wrong with kids these days. At least nothing that is indicated by the actions of this one fifteen year old. This is a fluke, it isn't any indicater of the damn kids these days. Some people are just fucked up, maybe this girl is well on her way to becoming a serial killer, though probably not anymore.
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How can you blame the parents without knowing anything about the situation?
I know that this is a messed up thing for someone to do, but i also know that none of us is in any position to blame society or parents or drugs.
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Old 02-06-2004, 09:13 PM   #35 (permalink)
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That's really bad luck! Feel sorry for the girl.
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Old 02-06-2004, 09:31 PM   #36 (permalink)
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at this poin when I have kids they are getting basic self defence and awareness of surroundings training from about six on- then we will move to firearms and blades at about ten- hell, it might not help, but it can't hurt- seriously, I think everyone needs to be very aware of whats going on around them- suspicious behavior, possible exits to a building you are in, etc- seems paranoid, and sometimes nothing is gonna save you, but then again in these times what can it hurt, and the thing about paranoia is that you only have to be right once.......
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Old 02-06-2004, 11:26 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Anyone wanna bet against me that this kid is a fucking drug addict loser?
I will.

Also, the lack of remorse tells me this is simply a person whose value as a human being has come to an end. There is no rehabilitation for such an act. Lock her up, wall up the door, and try to move on to those we can save.

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Old 02-07-2004, 12:56 AM   #38 (permalink)
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What the fuck is wrong with kids these days? Seems almost every other day some young kid is being stabbed. What are these parents doing at home, or rather not doing to make them do that?
What I'm SAYIN'! I just cannot believe what some kids are bringing to schools these days to hurt other students. It's just rediculous. What on earth would give a 15 year old the thought to just randomly pick someone out to stab!? Something is wrong with that and it's unbelievable. She definately needs strict, strict reprimanding; what exactly that would be, I have no idea.
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Old 02-07-2004, 01:43 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I blame the violence on violence. Oh, and on the liberated peoples of Kyzrgstan in 1988.

The kids fucked.
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Old 02-07-2004, 06:12 AM   #40 (permalink)
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maybe she is just a sociapath.

There has always been occurances like this throughout time. The difference is this is now and the now always seems worse than the past.

Don't blame society, Don't blame the schools, if anything blame the parents for not picking up on their child being not normal.
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