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Victoria's Secret to drop TV fashion show

By MARK WILLIAMS, Associated Press
Last updated: 5:46 p.m., Saturday, April 10, 2004

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Victoria's Secret is dropping its nationally televised fashion show this year, at least partly because of criticism following Janet Jackson's breast-baring faux pas at the Super Bowl.

Ed Razek, chief creative officer for the Columbus-based lingerie chain, said Saturday the main reason for the decision was so the company can look at new ways to promote the brand. Still, he said, "We had to make the decision probably six to eight weeks ago when the heat was on the television networks."

The announcement came less than three months after the Jackson uproar and a week after federal regulators proposed $495,000 in fines against Clear Channel Communications for sexual material on the Howard Stern show.

The televised fashion show has generated criticism in the past from groups complaining about supermodels strutting down the runway in skimpy underwear.

A message left Saturday at the New York office of CBS, which has televised the show the past two years, was not immediately returned.

Olga Vives, vice president of the National Organization for Women, praised the cancelation, saying the show only objectifies women.

"We're concerned young women think they have to look this way," Vives said, adding she hoped the cancelation is permanent.

"There are many other ways to promote their product."

The fashion show, which aired in November the last two years, was televised on ABC in 2001. The first show was broadcast online in 1999; 1.5 million visitors tried to log on at once, bringing the site down within 20 minutes.

Victoria's Secret has $4 billion in annual sales.

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories...date=4/10/2004

Prince

You can see worse things in almost any fashion show in Paris...

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Speed_Gibson

what a sad country when perfectly natural body parts (in most cases outside of the adult entertainment industry) and "strong language" scare people.

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tisonlyi

You can hack people into tiny little pieces as much as you like (The Lord enjoys a good bloodbath, don't He?), just so long as their reproductive organs aren't on display - oh, and there's no naughty words.

Ludicrous.

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lurkette

For god's sake WTF is WRONG with this country? One boobie pops out in prime time and all of a sudden the puritans have taken over the airwaves. I'm moving to the Netherlands. Hrumph.

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CSflim

Yes. Boobs are terrible. The source of all evil in this world. Won't somebody please think of the children!?

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Silvy

And we welcome you!
But mind your language and clothing please!

j/k

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runawayfetus

nooooooooo
thats horrible

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CinnamonGirl

I want some wings like that...

Erm...yes. Anyway. That's just...silly.

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Kaos

Never has one boob caused so much trouble. And it had to be Janet's.

analog

Most fashion shows outside the U.S. contain toplessness and even skimpier underwear- so what's the point, exactly?

Thanks everyone else for already saying what I was going to say, to the word! (even the Netherlands part- see you there, lurkette! )

Strange Famous

the whole things sounds a bit tacky, but I dont see why they shouldnt be allowed to do it, perhaps I cant speak on it, but I dont think the majority of women find fashion shows that feature lingere as being offensive or derogatory

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tangledweb

The US is definitely the most repressed country that I have ever seen about nudity. I am not sure that I understand how the human body came to be so completely awful and dirty in the eyes of our lawmakers but it is sad.

If you applied the same standards to other things, you wouldn't be able to see a picture of a gun because they can be used to kill. No pictures of food either becuase some people eat too much!

We can watch murder after murder on TV but a tittie might push some poor bastard over the edge! Can't have that now, can we?

bermuDa

the only thing more threatening to our domestic stability than terrorists are our own citizen's nipples!

The christian coalition will be conducting voluntary masectomies to prevent a recurrance of the dreadful events of 2/1. We'll be passing out pamphlets outside the rec room, and there will be scones and diet 7-up for all who are interested.

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thats really funny

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raeanna74

Surprise nudity is one thing. Scheduled shows where you know you'll hear sexually explict language or partial nudity are totally different. You can just turn the show off if you don't want to see it. Go ahead and edit nudity and explicit language during football or at times when kids would be watching but during shows where you expect it there's no need to freak out about it.

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Bill O'Rights

The boob that launched a thousand Fundies?

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It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.

kulrblind

Alternatively, you could move to Canada. In all the hooplah and re-playing of the titty incident, I personally haven't seen any censoring/blurring of the boob in question (Janet's, not Justin himself) on Canadian networks.

PS - I hear BBC America will now be carrying Trailer Park Boys, only they'll be bleeping out the profanities. Good luck following the dialogue

manalone

What a pity murder and mayhem aren't the taboos, rather than secondary sexual characterstics.

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skysooner

Ridiculous. Lurkette said what I was feeling when I read this.

water_boy1999

Has anyone seen a pic of Olga??? If not, check her out at :
http://www.geocities.com/NEregionNOW/biosX1.html

No wonder she has such a skewed view of women. She's actually a man.

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Spanxxx

I think I heard a simultaneous wail of "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" from the 13 yeard olds around the nation.

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moonstrucksoul

if i can be subjected to Dennis Franz's ass on NYPD Blue, then what's wrong with a little tit?

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lurkette

Hehe. I might lose my feminist credentials but this makes me giggle.

Frankly, if they wanted to protect young women's self-images, they'd do better to ban all airings of "Friends" and remove all women's magazines from the stands.

Thanks for protecting us from ourselves, Olga!

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Snakebyt

ITS A BREAST!!! 50% of the population of the world has them. i dont see the big deal.. too many consertave assholes in this country.

archer2371

Exactly, argh, must go beat in the heads of my fellow conservatives to make them not be such tight asses!

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punx1325

I really just don't give a fuck... It is just a phase like everything else in this country. Something else will happen and no one will give a flying crap.

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Mephisto2

The cynical amongst us would say it's because you have a Conservative born again Christian in the White House and Ashcroft as AG.


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Astrocloud

People used to consider me a conservative but now I'm quite the liberal because of my general opposition to things like this.

(Well technically, I'm a reformed Libertarian but just don't tell anyone).

tkkfan

Funny thing is that they're still showing the commercials. There isn't anything on the show that isn't on the commercials. In essence its just a long commercial. Evil commercials

...shenanigans on Super Troopers

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