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Old 04-11-2004, 03:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Legal Pot Alternatives?

Has anyone ever tried any of those herbal legal pot alternatives? There are a whole bunch of pages that sell them, but I don't know anyone who has actually tried them.

Anyone?
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Old 04-11-2004, 03:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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crap, imo.
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Old 04-11-2004, 03:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think the #1 pot alternative is Life. With it, you don't need any of that stuff.
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Old 04-11-2004, 03:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Espresso is a great substitute for any other drug. Trick is that you can't have too much of it or you will start building a tolerance to it.
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Old 04-11-2004, 04:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I've heard salvia is a trip and a half, but idk I haven't tryed it.
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Old 04-11-2004, 04:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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just keep smokin weed
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Old 04-11-2004, 04:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Jimson weed will kill you. Avoid that one.

Alcohol is pretty powerful, and legal too.
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Old 04-11-2004, 04:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I've heard salvia is a trip and a half, but idk I haven't tryed it.

my friend bought some of that shit about a year ago. he got a good amount and it lasted a good while. i've smoked it a few times and never really got anything out of it, just a headache, and a few other friends never got anything out of it.

but the friend who bought it, well lets just say its pretty fucking funny watching him after he's just smoked it. he'll sit there, with his eyes closed, in a dreamlike trance. and if you fuck with him, he freaks out.

the only reason i think it works on him is because he is REALLY sensitive to pretty much anything he does. he's drunk after 4 beers, he doesnt know whats going on when he smokes weed, and he trips pretty hard on bud brownies and shrooms. funny shit sometimes.
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Old 04-11-2004, 04:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I use a mix of california poppy, lions tail, mugwort and damania herb. It isnt exactly like pot. You dont get the munchies and you have really clear thought. But it is very good. Damania herb can be smoked by itself. It can be used by pot smokers to help get off their addiction and it helps to clean out the liver and kidneys too.
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Old 04-11-2004, 05:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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helps to clean out the liver and kidneys too.
so its a win/win

ill have to try that out when im done with this bottle of vodka...
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Old 04-11-2004, 05:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I've tried salvia. It tasted absolutely awful but you get a very hard and short trip. I hallucinated like crazy on it.
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Old 04-11-2004, 08:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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dose methods: Smoked out of water bong or adjustable vaporizer.
Dose size: mileage varies between extract strengths.
Other names: Lady S, Sally, sage wisdom
Duration: 10- 45 minutes
After effects: you will feel tired after the trip
Dose frequency: no more than once a day.

As far as I am concerned, salvia has no recreational use… it is a drug that should be used for spiritual purposes only. Anyone wishing to use salvia to just get fucked up should realize that there are better drug out there to abuse in this fashion… using salvia like this however, will draw attention to its use as a mainstream drug, which will lead to its ultimate scheduling.

Pre-trip Preperation:

1. Sitter. If you aren’t experienced with salvia, you will want a sober friend, that you trust, to stay with you during the trip. In the case of a freak out or emergency, they can help you.

2. Prepare your tools. Make sure you are using a WATER FILTERED bong, and the hottest lighter you can find. Mini-torches work best for salvia. Place your dose (varies by extract strength) in the bowl and set it all aside. You can also use a vaporizer if it has the ability to change the heat settings.

3. Meditate. This is the most important step, as is with any drug. You can’t hope to gain jack from a drug with a mind full of stray thoughts and mental clutter. Clear your mind, and the drug will do the rest.

4. Smoke. Do not pass around the bong. Take each hit as if it were your last… one of them will be. Hold it in as long as you possibly can, until your lungs can no longer take the pressure. As soon as you feel yourself breaking through, hand off the bong or set it down quickly… you won’t be able to hold it much longer.

Salvia No-No’s

One simple rule… Stay Put! Don’t try to get up and do anything during the trip. Salvia immobilizes you for a reason, so don’t fight it.

Trip Aids

Well, salvia isn’t really a “play around” kind of drug. From the moment of inhalation, it is a rocket ride through space. Prep yourself properly, and it will be smooth sailing from beginning to end. I would recommend padding for your ass… you will be in place for at least 20 minutes.
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Old 04-11-2004, 08:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I've heard good things about lettuce opium, which you can grow on your own. Might try it this summer when I don't have school or work to worry about.
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Old 04-11-2004, 08:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Espresso is a great substitute for any other drug. Trick is that you can't have too much of it or you will start building a tolerance to it.
are you high?
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Old 04-11-2004, 09:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Here's Seanbaby's advice.
http://www.thewavemag.com/pagegen.ph...rticleid=22431
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Old 04-11-2004, 09:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Well, as long as we're passing around preparation advice, might as well pass around a few words of caution...

"I started to pack the bowl, but then got extremely scared of going farther into the Ska Maria's touch. I wanted it to end, there and then.

Unfourtunatley for me, that wasnt possible. All at once, everything on me began to irritate my skin. I ripped off my clothes down to boxers and took off my rings and hemp necklass. I needed someone, anyone to calm me down. I began to hear more voices, from the park behind my house (giggling and yelling) So without thinking I ran out there. Still in my boxers, i found nothing but darkness. I was terrified, so I ran through the woods to my best friends house ( about a mile away) I knew his parents were gone so i ran in and found him in his room. There he put a fan on me ( i was sweating rivers) and in about 10 minutes I calmed down.

Salvia was the most terrifying experience I have ever been a part of. At the same time, It is somehting I look forward to conquering over time. It is hard for me to explain what happened or the fear I was feeling. The outside sky was shifting colors, and i was still mentally awake, for the most part. When people ask me about it, all I can say is... I went absolutely insane."


Taken from: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=1666
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Old 04-11-2004, 10:12 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I too have tried Salvia, and had zero luck with it.
Seems like a common sentiment around here.

I've always had a soft spot for Kava Kava which you can buy in pill form, or make tea out of. It produces a body buzz and a mild euphoria, unfortunately, I've heard that it's bad for your liver. It might be hard to find as well, and it's pretty addictive.
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Old 04-11-2004, 11:29 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I couldn't post and here I am with my thumb up my ass while you're beating me to the punch.

Anyway, for what it's worth, here was my post.

Quote:
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pot smokers to help get off their addiction
Must.. not.. lash out...



As for salvia, yes, I've heard it's good too. But you have to smoke it right for it to work, you can't just burn it like a joint. Well, you can't smoke it in a joint at all.

You either have to hotbox a small room with a bunch of it, or take strong bong rips with it. Also, hold the smoke in until you are ready to black out (don't go thatfar, but hold it in until it starts getting really uncomfortable).

This link could also be found useful.
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Old 04-11-2004, 11:35 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I too have tried Salvia, and had zero luck with it.
Seems like a common sentiment around here.
I have some of the 20x extract salvia. I have yet to see it not scare the living shit out of anyone whos been willing to try it with me :0 .

Some of my friends got some 10x extract (which is what is commonly sold at herbal stores) and they had no luck with it either. I guess it all depends on the quality/potency of the product.

But its not a weed replacement. Its for those who want to see how intense a psychedelic experience can get.

Anyways, sticking to the topic of this thread, check erowid.org for info on all kinds of drugs (illegal and legal). Might find something worthwhile there.
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:56 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Here's Seanbaby's advice.
http://www.thewavemag.com/pagegen.ph...rticleid=22431
this was my favorite part
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In what can only be described as a heroic attempt to get high, a friend and I smoked 1/4 of an ounce of this crap. It took us a little over 90 minutes, and my throat was so torn up I could barely talk. I did manage to gravel out, “Science can kiss my ass. I’m not doing another damn crossword puzzle.” It was just then I heard a knock at the door, thought it might be a fake cop, and in a panic to hide my fake pot, started eating my stash. I ate what we estimated to be another 1/4 of an ounce before I got tired of chewing on the many, many sticks no one bothered to take out.
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Old 04-12-2004, 11:00 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I've never tried anything else, but from what I hear from those who has explored every alternative, there's really nothing that compares.

NOTE: This is not a thread discussing whether or not people should use marijuana. Any comments to that effect (including things like, "why not be high on life", and shit like that) from here on will be edited and PM sent reminding you not to do that. Not every thread ON pot is going to turn into a debate on its use- not anymore.

Also, we cannot discuss method of use as per our rules- which means how to prepare for smoking, etc. Sorry, but that's the rules.

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Old 04-12-2004, 05:58 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I purchased a tube of blueberry bud from National Oddities site. Received a large amount for the price. This stuff had the look of the real deal. All buds were well shaped and solid. Some type of clumping agent is used. Scent, color, and flavor are added. The taste was blueberry and fairly smooth. The high was weak but not unpleasant. I didn't want this as a substitute. It turned out to be an excellent mixer. Put a layer on the bottom and whatever on top. Anything tasted good with the blueberry mixed in. A $30 investment lasted a long time.
As for the salvia. The drug responds to the person and their enviroment. Soft lights, comfortable clothes,and light instrumental music is practically mandatory. Sucking on fresh leaf is the gradual method I would advise. Quality really counts. Grow your own or find someone who does. Knowing and respecting this gift from nature will reap its rewards. This is not a party drug! Best when used in the company of a trusted soul whom is not partaking with you. Follow my advice and Salvia can change your life for the better.
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
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NOTE: This is not a thread discussing whether or not people should use marijuana. Any comments to that effect (including things like, "why not be high on life", and shit like that) from here on will be edited and PM sent reminding you not to do that. Not every thread ON pot is going to turn into a debate on its use- not anymore.

Also, we cannot discuss method of use as per our rules- which means how to prepare for smoking, etc. Sorry, but that's the rules.

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amen, while it's always a great debate, i hate always seeing it come up. i usually don't go around telling people to stop drinking, same difference. as for the methods, if you don't know, you don't need to know.
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Old 04-14-2004, 01:18 AM   #24 (permalink)
 
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Pepsi... chocolate... and the ocaisional weedpipe.
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Old 04-14-2004, 04:30 AM   #25 (permalink)
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We tried banana peels many years ago...it was a waste of time IMO.

I'll stick to the real deal..
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Old 04-14-2004, 12:26 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Stick to the Cannabis man!!
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