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Old 10-04-2004, 08:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sweden: Man Tax proposed

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Swedish MPs want men taxed

Mon Oct 4,12:59 PM ET


STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - A group of Swedish parliamentarians has proposed levying a "man tax" to cover the social cost of violence against women.



"It must be obvious to all of us that society has a huge problem with male violence against women and that has a cost," Left Party deputy Gudrun Schyman told Swedish radio on Monday.

"We must have a discussion where men understand they as a group have a responsibility," said Schyman, one of the party members to sign the motion for debate on the new tax.

Sweden already has the highest taxes in the European Union (news - web sites) as a percentage of gross domestic product to pay for its famous but hard-pushed cradle-to-grave welfare program.

It is also one of the world's most advanced nations in terms of gender equality, but Schyman said in a headline-hitting 2002 speech that discrimination in Sweden followed "the same pattern" as in Afghanistan (news - web sites) under the Taliban.
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Old 10-04-2004, 08:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I suppose it's for a good cause, but I don't see this going through nor working anywhere, not even in Sweden.

It does raise a question though, as to whether it is possible to ride the peer pressure angle when it comes to trying to weed out the wifebeaters. Probably not.
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have no more control over other mens' actions than I do over the fact that I was born male.

Will I do everything I can do to stop violence against women? yes. will I pay as if i'm partially responsible for it? fuck no.


how about a straight tax, to help compensate for all the violence against people with different sexual orientations?
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have no more control over other mens' actions than I do over the fact that I was born male.

Will I do everything I can do to stop violence against women? yes. will I pay as if i'm partially responsible for it? fuck no.


how about a straight tax, to help compensate for all the violence against people with different sexual orientations?
Couldn't have said it better myself. This is rediculous.
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Old 10-05-2004, 04:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Taxes and fines do nothing to solve human behavior. People need to be TAUGHT to treat others with respect. I don't see a tax on all men as respect for them. Really - How such a generalization can solve one sub-groups behavior makes no sense to me.
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Old 10-05-2004, 05:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Oh great, another excuse for the government to tax the living fuck outta us
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Old 10-05-2004, 11:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Warning!! Chauvinistic comment ahead:

Woman:"But honey, I swear I don't know why I'm pregnant, I took the pill."
*but she really didn't*
Man:*punches the lying wench in the head*

Now if she didn't lie she wouldn't have had a violent action performed on her. Now where's the woman tax? Obviously, I'm fucking joking. I'm just pointing out how fucking stupid I think this is by making a stupid comment that that makes no sense at all.

Taxed because of your gender. Dumbest thing ever.
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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While it may seem like an idea brought up by a need (which I doubt), what this unfortunately does is show how FAR LEFT people can go and the extremist views. I do think this is just an example of someone trying to win votes. I seriously doubt Swedish women are as bad off as the women in the Taliban run Afghan.

This I am sure will be used by some to demonstrate how bad the whole left is and not just as some extremists trying to get press. Examples like this are what feed the right to let people believe they are not as extremist, however they have just as many.

I truly believe you give people decent jobs, healthcare and respect and no matter what country you're in the country will rise to the top.
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well as far as I can see all this would do is RAISE the rate of abuse against women.

If that gets passed then the abusers will see it as their right to abuse the women since they are now paying taxes to cover it.

That tax is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of.
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If I have to pay a tax because of it, can I at least start using a stick wider than my thumb?
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Old 10-05-2004, 01:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Warning!! Chauvinistic comment ahead:

Woman:"But honey, I swear I don't know why I'm pregnant, I took the pill."
*but she really didn't*
Man:*punches the lying wench in the head*

Now if she didn't lie she wouldn't have had a violent action performed on her. Now where's the woman tax? Obviously, I'm fucking joking. I'm just pointing out how fucking stupid I think this is by making a stupid comment that that makes no sense at all.

Taxed because of your gender. Dumbest thing ever.

Wow, that made me laugh really hard. I agree, this is probably the dumbest thing ever, and would probably just lead to an increase in violence.
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