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Old 10-20-2006, 06:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hard Candy : If you ain't watched it, don't read this

I just watched the movie Hard Candy (a couple of days ago) and all I can say is WOW.

I have noticed that more movies and TV shows are talking about the sexual predators on the Internet and I wanted to talk about the movie & how realistic it is. Not the "she got hooked up with the guy" part, because, sadly enough we know how easily that can happen. But the rest of it: the fake surgery, the figuring out of safe number, the man's choice to jumb off the building.

The whole movie just blow my mind & I want to talk about it, even if I haven't started the conversation in the greatest way. But say something about it & help me out.
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Old 11-19-2006, 11:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Not a bad movie, entertaining enough. The movie had many unexpected turns I would recommend it.
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Old 11-19-2006, 02:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The film is quite good. I was shocked to see a Canadian film get a theatrical release here as they barely get one back home.

Ellen Page (also plays Kitty Page in Xmen 3) is a great actress. I know we are going to see more from her.
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Old 11-20-2006, 07:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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that was a Canadian film? cool stuff. i still can't believe that she found them, and that whole "imma cut your balls off". that was wild
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Spoiler: I think Sandrah Ohs character was supposed to be the type of suburbanite that just stays to her own business. Otherwise she would have asked Hayley what she was doing up on the roof at the time.

I was pretty shocked to find out that the guy actually had a hand in killing that other girl. The whole castration scene had me pegging him for an unrelated pedophile.


I enjoyed the movie, in so much as a movie like this can be enjoyed.
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Old 11-23-2006, 07:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yeah, but it was really easy to enjoy. how numb did he have to be to think she was really cutting off his balls?

& i thought she wasn't going to kill him, but basicly she did
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I just watched the movie Hard Candy (a couple of days ago) and all I can say is WOW.
I completely agree. And the castration scene, kind of hard to watch.

To the comment about how numb he must have had to have been to believe she actually castrated him, I think he wasn't that numb, it was when she put the binder clip on him and put him in pain that made him believe.

The movie makes you wonder who is the real predator in this case?
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Old 02-01-2007, 10:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
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yeah it does.
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
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This movie was incredible. I recommended it to a friend, but unfortunately he watched it with his gf and I think it made the viewing experience uncomfortable for him.

But yeah, many unexpected twists and turns. The whole castration scene kind of brought up the social issue of castration programs for sexual offenders.

And plus there's the fact that he chose to die than be revealed as a pedophile, just a ton of themes to think about.
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i don't know. why would watching it with his girlfriend change his viewing pleasure?

but yeah. i can't believe how slow it started out, but it was like going up the roller coater before they drop you
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Old 02-09-2007, 09:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I wonder what it says about me that I found myself laughing aloud at several points during the movie? I at times was reading it as a very dark comedy, and even now I'm not so sure it isn't, but so far I seem to be the only one reading it that way.

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yeah, but it was really easy to enjoy. how numb did he have to be to think she was really cutting off his balls?

& i thought she wasn't going to kill him, but basicly she did
They got this part right for the most part. It is a relatively quick and easy procedure. Most orchiectomies are performed outpatient in the doctor's office under local anaesthetic. They're ridiculously expensive given how safe and easy they are (typically over $2,000 with a qualified surgeon or urologist).

Anything that reduced the sensation would be enough, along with the distraction she was creating, to convince him that she'd actually gone through with it.
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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true. but damn, that was a great combination of numb and distraction. . . & i found myself laughing at that part, so i'm not sure what that could say about you
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Old 02-17-2007, 08:25 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I guess I would have to watch this. I have it from a friend and saw the topic and thought no thanks. Now you have me curious. Cant be any worse than 8mm.
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Old 02-18-2007, 09:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I found there to be one problem. The pedo guy was way too nice. She is treating him like he is the devil and he is very understanding with everything. He flirts with her but he gives her multiple chances to not go on with things. Before she drugs him he even tells her to stop trying to be sexy for him.

I know there is the murder aspect but it's not proven that he did anything in it.

There is a difference between pedophilia and actual child molestation. Hell in Canada what he was doing isn't even illegal. Provided that the girl is over 14.

I found Ellen Page to come off as the evil person.
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:43 AM   #15 (permalink)
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i just watched the movie again - with a friend who likes to talk so we talked about it. one thing that keep coming up again and again: who could that girl have been? and how did she know who did it?

the woman that come over at the end: how did she not see the girl running away?

yeah, the girl did come off a little evil, they both did at times. like when he started stabbing the photo.

and he might not have done anything in the killing, but his buddy (who he said did it) said the same thing. one of them did it, and by the time she got to him, did it really matter any more?
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Old 08-03-2008, 01:42 AM   #16 (permalink)
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This is one of those movies that makes you really think. I mean, who's side do you go with? On the one hand, the Pedo was implicated in the murder of that girl, on the other hand: the "victim" castrated the dude! I mean, Ellen Page's character had, at leas made him think, that he'd been castrated. Not only that, she basically killed him.

On another note, if some crazy chick was doing that do me, I'm pretty sure I can recognize my junk if it was on a TV screen. I would know right off the back that the bitch wasn't cuttin off my junk.
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Old 08-04-2008, 11:41 AM   #17 (permalink)
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This movie has made me permanent scared of Ellen Page.
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Old 08-13-2008, 02:14 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm not sure who's side I am on. Granted, the pedo needed to be dealt with, but she went about it in a fucked up manner. I mean she could have called the cops with whatever information she had and let them deal with it. And did she really need to bring the love of his life into it?
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:11 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Oh ...man! Where do I get the film?

I would love to see this film. Sounds like something I would like to see. With a female partner whom likes this type of thing. Any suggestions?
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Old 07-15-2010, 08:29 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I would love to see this film. Sounds like something I would like to see. With a female partner whom likes this type of thing. Any suggestions?
Suggestion on what, exactly?

Side note: being that enthusiastic about seeing a film that fits the above description (and with a female partner who would like that type of thing, to boot) is, frankly, extremely disturbing. I've watched it, and thought it was a pretty fucked up film...not sure if I enjoyed it or not. It completely lacks sympathetic characters.
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:59 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Side note: being that enthusiastic about seeing a film that fits the above description (and with a female partner who would like that type of thing, to boot) is, frankly, extremely disturbing. I've watched it, and thought it was a pretty fucked up film...not sure if I enjoyed it or not. It completely lacks sympathetic characters.
A suggestion could be you getting your lucky lady friend to castrate you, just like she did in the movie, but I doubt you're into that kind of thing.

The movie is pretty messed up. The "good guy" is equally as disturbed as the "bad guy." I thought the movie was interesting. The ball removal scene is a "top 10 intense scene from a movie" for me. It's worth seeing
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:06 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Suggestion on what, exactly?

Side note: being that enthusiastic about seeing a film that fits the above description (and with a female partner who would like that type of thing, to boot) is, frankly, extremely disturbing. I've watched it, and thought it was a pretty fucked up film...not sure if I enjoyed it or not. It completely lacks sympathetic characters.
Amen. It was "edgy" I suppose, and had a fine performance by Ellen Page, but it wasn't as good as many people think it is. Just goes to show how easily people are awed by "shock value".
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:48 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The only reason I watched this film was because I had a minor interest in Ellen Page after watching Juno, so I rented her previous films: Mouth to Mouth, American Crime, The Tracey Fragments and Smart People.

Hard Candy was probably the second most intense of her films that I have viewed. The Tracy Fragments is an excellent, but depressing film. And while watching the scene in Hard Candy when she performs the fake castration on the guy, I was rather uncomfortable, but thought he deserved the punishment for what he did to her friend.
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:30 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Amen. It was "edgy" I suppose, and had a fine performance by Ellen Page, but it wasn't as good as many people think it is. Just goes to show how easily people are awed by "shock value".
Part of the reason the movie sucked was the doofus they put her up against was completely out of his league acting-wise...couldn't hold up his end of the bargain, and when there are only two characters, and one is a wet blanket, it is hard to care what happens to either of them.
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:44 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Part of the reason the movie sucked was the doofus they put her up against was completely out of his league acting-wise...couldn't hold up his end of the bargain, and when there are only two characters, and one is a wet blanket, it is hard to care what happens to either of them.
It's been a while since I've seen it. I don't even remember his role, but I do remember being impressed by Page, so I'd say your assessment is pretty accurate.
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Old 07-22-2010, 04:10 PM   #26 (permalink)
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It's been a while since I've seen it. I don't even remember his role, but I do remember being impressed by Page, so I'd say your assessment is pretty accurate.
I remember that his default facial expression most of the movie was that he looked like he had to poop, and that he had glasses. That's all I remember of him.
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