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Evolution pulled a WCW on us Monday night.... gee anyone smell a 6 man tag for next week?

1000 posts? man thats nuts.

Do you think Orton will get the title back and how soon? And I LOVE his new shirt!

Holy crap! Nobody probably cares about this, but Rosey finally has a new costume!! About a year too late, though. I think it would've gotten a bigger reaction if they revealed it after showing those S.H.I.Training videos.

I'm really looking forward to the HHH/Benoit Iron Man Match next week! Both men are in great shape, and they will for sure put on a hell of a match. There'll probably be outside interference from Evolution, as well as Eugene. Oh well.

Triple H in good shape? He definitely seems to have chunked up recently. When he came back off his injury a year or so ago, he was mega cut. He doesn't look as impressive now. Maybe its because he is always next to Batista. He looks downright flabby next to my man Batista.

And Rosey looks great in his new costume too.

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Originally posted by brandon11983
Triple H in good shape? He definitely seems to have chunked up recently. When he came back off his injury a year or so ago, he was mega cut. He doesn't look as impressive now. Maybe its because he is always next to Batista. He looks downright flabby next to my man Batista.

And Rosey looks great in his new costume too.

I guess I like the toned down HHH more than the super muscle bound HHH. I figure that all that muscle had to limit some mobility in the ring, which could have an influence on how smooth the match can go. Of course, I have no idea if any of this is true, but it sounds good in my head.

And Batista is indeed a behemoth. I'd love to see him take control of Evolution. Seriously, the way he was booked against Benoit on RAW, it would make sense if he started to develop an ego, saying that he did to Benoit in 10 minutes what HHH couldn't even do in 45.

Ok guys but you have to admit when it comes to being super cut you gotta go with my man Cena. I mean he's built without being huge like Batista or Brock

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Originally posted by evilbeefchan
And Batista is indeed a behemoth. I'd love to see him take control of Evolution. Seriously, the way he was booked against Benoit on RAW, it would make sense if he started to develop an ego, saying that he did to Benoit in 10 minutes what HHH couldn't even do in 45.

True. Batista is the man! He did mop the floor with Benoit. Rather than take control of Evolution, I'd like to see him and Orton lose that excess baggage and either go their separate way or even better, form a tag team! I hate the both of them with Evolution, but love them apart from it.

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Originally posted by brandon11983
True. Batista is the man! He did mop the floor with Benoit. Rather than take control of Evolution, I'd like to see him and Orton lose that excess baggage and either go their separate way or even better, form a tag team! I hate the both of them with Evolution, but love them apart from it.

In order to be a great wrestler these days and get anywhere you have to have great mic skills and get people to pay to see you.

Orton I think stands a good chance at that, in a few years he could be the next Rock.

Batista though, I don't see having good mic, he's there to beat people in submission. My call is Batista stays a mid tier guy (or tag teamer) and never truly advances. He may get a shot here and there at something but I don't see him holding anything very long.

It's like Benoit, the reason McMahon took so long to give him the belt was noone thought Benoit could handle the mic.

McMahon looks for the mic guys that can pull people into a storyline, HBK, Hogan, MachoMan (OOOOOO Yeah), Austin, The Rock, even Triple H. McMahon's looking for the next one. Again Orton maybe in a few years but Batista never will.

There's only one wrestler who lacked mic skills and has been around forever and that's Mark Calloway, The UnderTaker. But he sold his gimmick and developed a great base.

The 2 wrestlers I think McMahon has shit on and has totally ignored their talent and fan base are RVD and Jericho. Those 2 wrestlers have it all the mic, the in ring, the charisma, the great fan base that can make them babyfaces or heels in a heartbeat.

Let Jericho and RVD loose and those 2 could become as big as HBK. I could definately see Jericho being as big as anyone ever in the WWE. RVD works a little on the mic skills and cuts down the hardcore he'd be killer boxoffice. RVD I could see becoming the next Flair.

But I also think Jericho is happy where he is, wrestles a bit but has a soft schedule and can be Fozzy. I think he doesn't want to go much further than where he is.

RVD just gets shit on. I love the guy but for some reason McMahon keeps him in the background and buries him in stupid stories that go nowhere. Might be RVD is bad lockerroom politics/attitude or the big guys like HHH and others are keeping RVD down so as not to lose what they have.

I think very soon we'll see RVD in TNA and shining bright.

The few times that Batista has had a chance to speak, I think he has done a passable job. I would like to see him get a bigger push and start to develope a personality of his own away from Evolution, or even within it. As of now, he's still just playing the big and dumb enforcer role.

As for Orton, I can't stand the guy. Every time he has the mic I cringe. His line always sound rehersed and forced. He's a terrible actor and not that great of a wrestler in my opinion. He has a great body and is still young. I think that he has potential, but to compare him to the Rock on the mic is just plain wrong.

Rock was not all that great at the mic either at first. I think I compared Orton mainly because they are both 3rd generation and Rock was horrid when he first started. It wasn't until he was with "Farrooq", Owen Hart and that group (can't remember the name) that he started to develop.

Thinking about it more Orton could be the next Curt Hennig (Mr. Perfect). He could be huge or he could flop. You are right though, right now, Orton is too rehearesed and needs to work on his mic energy and find something that works. I'm not a big Orton fan either , and there was only 1 Perfect. But considering who the WWE has right now Orton seems their best young shot.

Meh, I haven't really been impressed by Batista. He's just big and looks mean.

Jericho and RVD have in ring talent and charisma.

On a side note: what happened to Test and Scott Steiner? I don't miss either of them but I was wondering if they got fired or injured or what.

Test has a neck injury expected to be out for almost a year. Steiner I believe was very disliked (attitude) in the lockerroom and thought he deserved more so he was let go.

Here's a good link for great WWE and all wresting info:
http://www.rajah.com/base/

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Originally posted by pan6467
It wasn't until he was with "Farrooq", Owen Hart and that group (can't remember the name) that he started to develop.

N.O.D = Nation of Domination

Looks like the WWE is bringing Heidenreich (sp?) back to the front burner. I saw a commercial for him during Smackdown today. It was very reminiscent of those that ran for Brock when he first came aboard. Man do I miss Brock. I loved watching him hulk Big Show up for a big F5!!

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Originally posted by meanSpleen
N.O.D = Nation of Domination

Ah yes, and that brings to mind one of the best bits WWE ever ran.

HHH was Rock, X-Pac was Owen Hart (with a very large fake nose), and the rest of Degen-X were other members of N.O.D. and they spoofed them. It was hilarious. All HHH could say was "If ya smell what the Rock is cooking... " X-Pac would answer, "Hey with this nose it's hard not smell it." Fucking hilarious, almost as funny as Foley in the hospital with Vince and Mr. Socko.

God why can't WWE do that stuff anymore? They need to add some real fun funny stuff.

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Originally posted by pan6467
Ah yes, and that brings to mind one of the best bits WWE ever ran.

HHH was Rock, X-Pac was Owen Hart (with a very large fake nose), and the rest of Degen-X were other members of N.O.D. and they spoofed them. It was hilarious. All HHH could say was "If ya smell what the Rock is cooking... " X-Pac would answer, "Hey with this nose it's hard not smell it." Fucking hilarious, almost as funny as Foley in the hospital with Vince and Mr. Socko.

God why can't WWE do that stuff anymore? They need to add some real fun funny stuff.

I thought it was another guy they hired to play Owen, and X Pac was Mark Henry in a fat suit?

I miss Brock too. Especially whenever he'd give the F5 to cruisers like Misterio and Moore, where they would end up completing 2 full midair spins. And don't forget the Stretch Muffler/Brock Lock!

The Brock Lock... that was painful just to look at. BRING BROCK BACK!!

<a href="http://www.wrestlingnation.com/missgalatea/bestangles_dxparody.html" target="_new">DX NOD parody</a>

Here's a good rundown of the whole thing.

Thanks Evil, that brought back a laugh and some great memories of those Monday Night Wars.

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Originally posted by evilbeefchan
I thought it was another guy they hired to play Owen, and X Pac was Mark Henry in a fat suit?

I miss Brock too. Especially whenever he'd give the F5 to cruisers like Misterio and Moore, where they would end up completing 2 full midair spins. And don't forget the Stretch Muffler/Brock Lock!

It was
Owen Hart was played by Jason Sensation.

The ending of the Iron Man match was pretty good.

However the whole diva search thing was a tremendous waste of time. I muted the TV and made food.

You really have to wonder if the whole Diva search is just a scam. I bet they already have the next Diva picked out, but they're just trying to get the T&A thing over. Sadly, it's totally turning off the audience, it seems.

Yeah, my money is on Carmella. It seems dumb to hire anyone else when an ex PMOY is among the ranks. The audience was booing everyone but her. I want her to win, so the stupid shit will be over and done with.

Upon watching RAW tonight, I noticed that Carmella wasn't as "active" as the others. She didn't seem to be shaking her stuff for the crowd like the others were. I don't ever remember seeing her work the crowd like the others. This makes me think its already been decided even more.

My money's not on Carmella. WWE probably hired her to pump up the ratings, otherwise she might take the whole thing a little more seriously.

Edit: THen again, if she KNOWS she going to win, maybe she woudln't try so hard?

They are really wasting time on Raw with this whole Diva search...I'm enjoying the T&A, but how much would it have sucked to pay for Raw, and get two matches, and the Diva bit...

I just want to add that the Summerslam commercials are excellent, and I'm looking forward to next week.

I'm sick of all the fake boobs in WWE. We need more divas like Stacy Kiebler who are naturally hot.

I guess WWE called in reinforcements in the form of Randy Orton to help out the diva search. It appears to have worked, as the crowd booed Orton and cheered the divas when he came on. As I've said before, I want Carmella to win. She is the only one that appeals to me. I'm still convinced she won too. She didn't do anything during the "sell me an ice cream cone" skit. Everyone else was frantically whoring themselves out.

Spike is an awesome dickish heel! Gotta love the pie face shove! And for once, they were actually able to utilize the "wrestler goes up top and lands on lying opponent's extended boot" spot! Usually it's someone without a signature top rope manuever, who simply jumps and lands on his feet, while taking a boot to the kisser. Spike has the double stomp off the top, so London counters by sticking out his boot!! Brilliant! I may come off as sarcastic, but I was laughing my head off because it fit so perfectly.

Any early Summerslam predictions?

Kane/Matt Hardy: Death do us part
I'm hoping Hardy lets Kane win, so he can get rid of Lita. I mean, there was a chorus of boos when he signed that contract. Pretty much everyone in the audience wanted him to just dump Lita. Otherwise, he's going to come out looking more whipped than this bowl of meringue. However, he does have surgery coming up, keeping him off RAW for 6-8 months!! =( So I'll go big and say Shawn Michaels makes his return and decapitates Kane.

Edge/Jericho/Batista: IC title
Batista all the way baby!! I love all three of them, but I gotta go with the big Deacon. Push him with the belt as the ultimate monster, and really put over the belt strong. Unless if they have Edge turn and have him and Jericho fight over the strap for a while. I've been longing for an Edge and Christian reunion!!!

HHH/Eugene:
I've been trained to believe that HHH will never lose anything, unless it's a bare knuckle brawl with Regal. Eugene gets the pin after HHH suffers Regal's Revenge.

Orton/Benoit: World Title
I've been reading a lot of rumors and news all over the place, so my head is already accepting Orton as the new Champ. I would hate to see Benoit lose the strap with such a lame buildup to the PPV. So for the sake of a better buildup and a few more Hard Knocks DVD sales, Benoit holds onto the strap, and drops it at No Mercy in a rematch.

Dudleyz/Cruisers
With Spike's new turn, I'd like to see him get as much momentum in the CW division as possible. I say Spike pins Rey after some Dudley shenanigans, setting up 2 title matches for No Mercy.

Cena/Booker
I heard this was part of a "best of _" series, ala WCW between Booker and Benoit. I'll rush it and say Booker has a nice long reign, while Cena regroups and moves on to bigger things.

JBL/Undertaker: WWE title
I'm actually starting to dig JBL, as much as I hate to admit it. He used to be my favorite wrestler as part of the APA, and now with his new Chief of Staff Orlando Jordan, I see him keeping the title at least until No Mercy, and possibly building up his "staff." Chief of Staff OJ with the distraction, and JBL with 2 huge LARIATTOOOOOOSS~~~!!!!

If Bradshaw beats Undertaker... I will vomit.

EvilBeef some interesting predictions, here's mine
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Kane/Matt Hardy: Death do us part

I see Matt winning and dumping Lita, then going on a soul search (surgery) OR the very lame and usually very unsurprising, unoriginal twist of Lita setting Matt up and walking out laughing with Kane (ala Trish with Christian).

The first would be my preference BUT McMahon likes to go with what has always worked in the past even if it has been done to death so.... Lita turns on Matt, she's not preggers (just used that to get into Matt's head, and Matt gets "injured" and disappears.
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Edge/Jericho/Batista: IC title

The rumors I have seen have Edge joining Evolution and Orton turning face so, another double cross prediction where Edge looks to be Jericho's friend, gets "hurt" then as Jericho is about to beat Batista Edge comes alive and beats the Hell outta Jericho then lies down for Batista and joins Evolution.
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HHH/Eugene:

I agree with you Regal comes back and beats HHH and helps Darsow... I mean Eugene. I also see Eugene getting hit in the head and becoming a genius. That would be another predictable twist but one I could stomach
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Orton/Benoit: World Title

Easy prediction (if the rumors of Orton turning face are true), HHH interferes hits Orton instead of Benoit and sets up Orton's face turn and a Benoit/Orton rematch.

If the rumors are false then Orton wins with Flair's help, again setting up a rematch. But the twist is HHH expects Orton to lie down for him and Orton refuses thus Orton then becomes a face.... not much else can honestly help if McMahon is truly trying to push Orton as a star.
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Dudleyz/Cruisers

I agree with you... plus I truly don't find much to be excited about in this match.
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Cena/Booker
I can see Cena winning, Booker is looking to retire and work backstage as an agent and booker. So I see Booker losing and disappearing except for a few "filler" matches. Cena is another big bucks prospect and McMahon is cleaning out a lot of the old timers for the new guys so...
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JBL/Undertaker: WWE title

Taker all the way. McMahon owes Big Mark Calloway bigtime for not leaving when everyone else went to WCW. People love the Taker and it gives him one last hurrah before he drops the belt to someone like Cena and retires.
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There's my predictions and opinions.

I will say this the WWE needs this to be a big seller and really grab people because McMahon is in negotiations to renew his SpikeTV contract and unlike a few years ago wrestling isn't as big as when he first got there so he needs to get ratings up fast or face a big paycut in the contract.

Plus Ted Turner/AOL's no compete clause from WWE's WCW buyout ends at the end of this year and there is talk Ted Turner may buy up Jarrett's TNA-NWA franchise, which would again create competition for WWE and again, McMahon is not ready for it.

Well here are the Summerslam results:

from Rajah.com

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WWE SummerSlam
Toronto, Canada
August 15, 2004

WWE SummerSlam pregame show has begun and the action will be underway in the next 20 minutes so stay tuned to the site for the latest coverage. They kick off the event showing clips leading up too all the matches tonight, including Diva Dodgeball.

The fireworks start off and we are ready to get underway. J.R. & The King welcome us to the 17th SummerSlam and let everyone know that it is sold out tonight. We are next introduced to the Spanish announce team and then Michael Cole and Tazz. Bubba Ray, Spike, Devon make their way down to the ring.

Rey Mysterio, Paul London, Billy Kidman vs The Dudleys

Next out is Rey Mysterio, Kidman, and London. We are now set for the six man match to get underway. The match kicks off with the Dudley’s using good teamwork to take down Paul London. Spike hits London off the top rope and then distracts the ref, while Devon and Bubba work him over in the corner. The crowd begins to chant for “the tables”.

Spike tags in Bubba who hits a suplex and the a headbutt on the mat followed by an elbow. Kidman is able to distract the referee so that London avoids the three count.

Finally we get Spike Dudley and Rey Mysterio in the ring and Mysterio begins to pick him apart. He fights all three of the Dudley Boys will also working over Spike. Billy Kidman then gets in the action by hitting a flying elbow off the top rope. Kidman rolls Spike up for a pin, but Bubba breaks up the pin attempt. London then hits a dropkick on Bubba through the ropes and the double team work on Spike begins. Kidman goes up to the top rope and hits the shooting star press and nails it, but as he goes for the cover he is pulled outside by Devon.

The Dudleys crawl into the ring and nail Londone with a quick 3-D. That’s it and the Dudley’s win the match.

Winners: Dudley’s

Kane vs Matt Hardy

Next up we see clips of The Kane/Lita/Matt Hardy storyline, with Matt Hardy coming to the ring first, followed by Lita, then followed by Kane.

Both men go at each other, Matt mounts the first big offense with a twist of fate on the outside as the referee begins his ten count. Lita looks excited that Matt Hardy may actually win. Kane finally rolls into the ring and Matt Hardy hammers him with kicks to the chest.

This match ends very quickly with Kane nailing Matt Hardy with a quick chokeslam and a quick 1-2-3 for the win. Lita looks on in disbelief as she will now have to marry Kane. J.R. and King play it up as though the world has just ended as Kane exits the arena.

Winner: Kane

John Cena vs Booker T

Backstage we have an interview with Randy Orton, who is quickly interupted by John Cena. Cena then ribs on Randy about being so hot and thanks him for giving him such a great introduction. Cena then asks the crowd if Orton is going to win the title tonight and they respond with a “no”. Cena then hypes his match with Booker T before leaving.

Booker T makes his way to the ring next, followed by John Cena. Cena plays to the crowd abit before he is attacked by Booker T. Booker T takes control of the match and tosses him out of the ring. Cena is sent into the security wall and then back into the ring, but he has yet to go for a cover in this match.

Booker T has totally dominated Cena up to the point. Hitting move after move, but he has yet to go for a cover, as though he is trying to send a message to Cena. Cena does however get a quick rollup, but is unable to hold him down. Booker T then goes for an axe kick but no one is home and Cena lands a kick ot the face.

Cena tries to get up, but Booker T gets too his feet first and works Cena back down to the canvas. Booker T now sets up for the spinarooni.

As Booker T gets ready to finish off Cena, Cena dodges and nails the FU and quickly rolls Booker T up to take the first fall out of a five series.

Winner: John Cena

Backstage Eric Bischoff greets the new GM of Smackdown!, Teddy Long. Bischoff tells Long he will be surprised to see him as the GM of Smackdown! at Survivor Series because there have been so many GM’s to come and go. Long then tells Bischoff that he is going to try and sign Eugene and any other Raw Superstar who is tired of putting up with him.

Batista vs Edge vs Jericho

Out comes Batista, followed by Jericho and then Edge who gets a huge ovation because he is from Toronto. As the match starts, Edge immediatley goes after Batista. Batista is being hammered on by both Jericho and Edge, before they toss him to the outside and then face off with one another in the middle of the ring.

The crowd begins to root for Jericho moreso than Edge. Jericho is able to ground Edge to the mat and then hits a quick Walls of Jericho. Edge tries to get to the ropes but Jericho pulls him into the middle of the ring. As Edge is about to tap out, Batista rolls into the ring to break up the submission move.

Jericho eliminates Batista with a springboard and it’s now down to Edge & Jericho as the crowd starts to chant for Y2J.

Out of nowhere, Edge hits a huge spear on Jericho and gets a quick 1-2-3, just as the crowd was getting into the match. Another quick match.

Winner: Edge

Eddie Guerrero vs Kurt Angle

They show a vid recap of the Angle/Guerrero fued up to the point. Angle is first in the ring followed by Eddie. Eddie quickly gets in the ring and goes for an ankle lock, which is Angle’s move. He then hits a headlock takedown as both men try to take the advantage.

Eddie Guerrero capatilizes quickly and hooks on the ankle lock. Angle is in agony in the middle of the ring. Angle tries to get to the ropes. Angle somewhow is able to reverse the ankle lock and hooks it on Guerrero.

Angle keeps the ankle lock on for a good amount of time, before Guerrero is finally able to break the hold by getting to the ropes. Angle then sends Guerrero into the corner and hits a few knife edge chops. Angle drops Guerrero in the middle of the ring and hooks on a new submission move, but Eddie is able to break up the hold with a scratch to the eyes.

Kurt continues to hammer on Eddie. Eddie is bleeding from the eye. Also, Angle begins to unlace Eddie’s boot as though he is going to continue to work on the ankle. Out of nowhere, Eddie Guerrero hits the Olympic Slam. Both men are down now on the mat, but Eddie is really struggling with his injured ankle. Guerrero then hits a DDT and plants Angle into the mat.

Angle hits the Olympic Slam, but Guerrero kicks out. Angle looks frustrated. Angle then removes Guerrero’s boot and hooks on the Ankle lock as Eddie screams in pain. Eddie uses all his might to send Angle into the referee. The ref is out and Angle is down. Guerrero gets up and grabs his boot and nails Angle with it. He then goes to get the ref and go for a 3 count.

Eddie Guerrero’s eye seems to be injured, because of a thumb to the eye. It’s almost as if he is bleeding from the eye which you can see below. Angle hooks on another ankle lock in the middle of the ring after exposing Eddie’s ankle. Eddie tries to reverse three times, but cannot shake off Angle in the middle of the ring before he finally taps out. Eddie looks upset after the match.

Winner: Kurt Angle

Triple H vs Eugene

Out comes Triple H, as they recap the long history between him and Eugene. Then we hear Eugene’s music as he makes his way to the ring.

HHH begins to disect Eugene after hitting him with a huge back flip off the ropes. HHH quickly grounds Eugene and then goes to the outside and begins to clear off the Spanish Announce Table! He gets Eugene and tries to suplex him over the top rope and onto the outside, but Eugene is able to pull HHH back into the ring.

Eugene gains some momentum until HHH fakes a knee injury and Eugene looks concerned. He calls the referee over but HHH fools them both and sends Eugene to the outside of the ring. HHH begins to hammer on Eugene, but out of nowhere, Eugne hits a Rock Bottom . HHH quickly recovers however, following up with a spinebuster on Eugene. He then gets on the mat and goes on an all out assult on Eugene.

HHH takes Eugene to the outside of the ring and sends him into the steel steps. Eugene is then rolled back into the ring and HHH applies a sleeper hold to the already worn down Eugene.

Eugene battles his way out of the sleeper and hits a few right hands before nailing HHH with a “Stone Cold Stunner”. Eugene then tosses HHH outside and then back into the ring as the crowd gets behind him. Ric Flair is on his way to the ring.

Flair distracts Eugene as HHH tries to hook on a pedigree which is reversed and Eugene hits HH with a pedigree. Flair breaks up the pin and the referee tosses him from ringside.

Flair is leaving the arena when he is met by William Regal with brass knucks. Regal knocks Flair out cold and runs to the ring, but before he can get there, HHH hits Eugene with a third pedigree and wins the match. Flair saved HHH from the three count and in the end Regal could not get there in time to make the save,

Winner: HHH

Up next we have Diva Dodgeball. All the Diva’s are in bikini tops and the competition does not take place in the arena but takes place on a court somewhere else. The Diva’s are getting killed in this competition. It’s 5-2 with the hopeful’s winning. Coach is commentating the competition. Nidia is the last to get eliminated as the Diva Hopeful’s totally dominate the WWE Diva’s. However, all the ladies did look very very nice.

Winner: Raw Diva Search Ladies

After the competition, the Diva’s start to catfight with the Raw Diva hopefuls. Trish Stratus goes after one of the ladies, but the WWE Diva’s pull her back.

The Undertaker vs John Bradshaw

JBL trys to go on the offensive quickly, but the Undertaker totally dismantles him. He hooks on a quick armbar and then drives JBL down to the mat.

The Undertaker is pinpointing that left arm of JBL, by ramming it into the steel steps, then going up to the top rope and going “old school” with a blast to the left shoulder. The Undertaker goes for a cover, but JBL kicks out at 2.

With the help of Orlando Jordan, JBL is able to recover and now he singles out Undertaker’s knee. He grabs a steel chair and nails the Undertakers knee against the steel ring post. Undertaker somehow hits a boot to the face as both men fall to the outside of the ring.

Undertaker is hurting as he tries to limp to JBL but JBL takes out the Taker’s knee again. JBL gets Taker back in the ring and does an armbar rollover. Quickly, both men are back on the outside. JBL and Taker square off in front of the Spanish Announce Table and Taker hits a huge right hand to the skull of JBL.

JBL finally is able to roll back in the ring and mount some offense against the Undertaker as he once again goes to work on the Undertakers knee. Undertaker tries to go for a chokeslam, but he can’t support JBL with his bad knee. JBL again goes to the knee and then a spine buster. JBL goes for a quick cover.

The Undertaker now has full control as he hits a chokeslam, BUT cannot get the 3 count. Orlando jumps onto the ring.

JBL hits a huge clothesline from hell. Undertaker somehow kicks out. Both men go for a clotheslines and take each other out and the referee in the process.

JBL hits another clothesline from hell, but Taker kicks out. Taker then gets up and hits the tombstone but the referee is knocked out.

Undertaker now grabs the belt, but as he does, the referee comes too. He calls for the bell and DQ’a the Undertaker, who then snaps. He takes JBL down the aisle and clams into the car and windsheild, where JBL is busted open badly.

Winner: Undertaker

The Undertaker leaves, but then comes back and Taker takes JBL and chokeslam’s him through the roof of the limo. The EMT’s are now out working on a bloody JBL. As they walk out, Orland Jordan places the belt around JBL on the stretcher.

Randy Orton vs Chris Benoit

Orton makes his way to the ring, followed by Chris Benoit.The bell rings and both men stare each other down in the middle of the ring. The lock up with neither man gaining the advantage.

Orton wheels Benoit into the corner and breaks it cleanly after the ref steps in. They lock up in a Greco-Roman knuckle lock, where Benoit hooks on an overhand wristlock and a backheel trip.

Randy Orton hooks on the sharpshooter and Benoit struggles to get to the ropes. Benoit lifts himself up and tries to break out of the sharpshooter. Benoit counters the move and reverses with a sharpshooter on Orton and just as he gets the ropes, Benoit hooks on the crippler crossface.

Orton goes for a quick cover on Benoit and almost gets a 3 count. He then goes right back to work on Benoit’s already injured neck. Both men finally get up and have a mid-air collision and are back down for a 10 count. Both men try to get to their feet, but Benoit is first and lands some right hands and then a elbow off the top rope.

Benoit now is relentless as he hooks on a sharpshooter as Orton tries to get to the ropes and he is fading. Orton can’t quite get to the ropes as Benoit tries to pull him back, but Orton grabs the bottom rope. The damage has been done.

Chris Benoit goes for the headbutt off the top rope, but Orton blocks it with his knees! Orton’s mout is busted along with his face as blood begins to trickle out. Orton is still laid out on the ring. Orton goes for an inside cradle, but then Benoit hooks on the crippler crossface in the middle of the ring. Orton tries to get the ropes.

Benoit has it hooked in good, but Orton grabs the ropes. Benoit gets up and out of nowhere, Orton hits the RKO.

Orton rolls over onto Benoit and covers him. 1-2-3 & Randy Orton has become the youngest Heavyweigh Champion ever in WWE history.

Winner: Randy Orton

After the match, Chris Benoit comes back down to the ring and extends his hand to Randy Orton as the crowd boos. Then Orton shakes it after Benoit tells him “to be a man” and the crowd begins to cheer. J.R. comments at the class that Benoit just showed as he exits the arena and Orton celebrates his heavyweight title.

Man, I'm never good at these predictions. Oh well. The PPV sounds decent, although I'm still not even sure why they bothered with the Diva Dodgeball. They should've just taken those 5 minutes and added it to the IC title match. And I'm actually shocked, shocked I say, that Orton won CLEAN~! I'm considering ordering the replay, for that match as well as the Angle/Guerrero one. I'm hoping it's worth it.

Except for the "taker match they all ended cleanly. (Although I didn't see the Dudley match).

My predictions weren't that far off. Cena won. Orton winning clean surprised me but now the face turn is definately happening.

HHH actually didn't have to blade himself for a match.

Biggest surprise for me was Taker looking BAD during the match and losing. He looked OLD, beat up and to me seemed to just go through the motions and didn't have his heart in the match.

Angle/Eddie G match was far better than I ever thought it would be. That was a match I didn't even care about but once it started WOW. Was probably my favorite for the night.

It was worth the $5, wings, unlimited soda, and shrooms at BW3.

Everyone wants to boot off Carmella, but Michelle took a hike. ha! I love it! I voted for her, because she is the only one that isn't a boring vapid whore. I like how Evolution dispatched Randy Orton. RKO did a good job of selling his disbelief when HHH gave him the thumbs down. I do like that they are going to turn him good guy this way, rather than have him be better than everyone else.

WWE has again ruined a good storyline opportunity. The plan is to have HHH vs. Orton at this years Wrestlemania (9 months away). Now instead of tip toeing around Evolution turning on Randy over the next 4 - 6 weeks they go ahead and do it right away? What the hell. Pisses me off. That's why I don't waste my Monday nights watching anymore.

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Originally Posted by Himbo

I agree, they used to draw it out and give little hints along the way and then at a PPV have the turn go full force and it kept you guessing and interested.

For HHH/Orton, I'd have had Orton in a few matches and HHH and Evo. interfere and cause him to win by interference and not on ability. That would get him upset and wanting to prove himself, while HHH keeps telling him he has the belt ONLY because HHH lets him have the belt. Then a PPV or 2 before WM have HHH and Evo come out to interfere and Orton instead attacks them with his opponent. This draws out the face turn and makes it more legit. Keeps fan interest because as the storyline builds you see Orton go through phases of doubting himself and then realizing he doesn't need HHH and Evo.

A big problem now is the WWE's writers don't know how to write storylines and draw them out. Everything happens now and if there's a problem they ignore it. It does get very predictable and boring.

But I also see the WWE's side and that is right now especially on RAW they lack a true face and Orton (like him or not) is getting good pops. I just think he needs a little more seasoning on the mic and he might be as big as Rocky or Austin. But nobody for a very long time will be as big or mean as much to wrestling as Hogan in his prime. If anyone thinks Orton can do that.....I don't think it'll happen.

You know...with HBK coming back at the next PPV, maybe he can get involved in the HHH/Orton feud...I just hope HBK doesn't come back to take care of Kane. It would have been great if he would have interfered at Summerslam, but now it would be just plain BAD.
With all of Orton's boasting, I keep hoping that Rocky will come back to challenge him again...

HHH & Orton? Does this mean they're going to stop pushing Benoit?

Great, HHH is about to be back in the spotlight. I hope that HBK comes back and kicks a lot of ass. The Rock too.

**edit** As much as I love to see the Rock, he did look a bit shoddy on the mic last night. Looks like they brought him in to try to raise interest in the Diva Search, and help Carmella in particular. She still has my vote, aside from Traci, she is the only one that I find attractive.