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Old 05-03-2005, 03:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Stop the press: Yanks have no sense of humour?

Surely not???

Is it just me... serious research or an old fashioned dig at the septics?

I'm not a big fan of Kath and Kim, but at least I know it's funny. We all know the seppos have something wrong with their funny glands, but maybe this is out of order?
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Old 05-03-2005, 04:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think asking tertiary students to undertake an analysis of humour to represent americans is a bit of a skewed sample.

I mean, americans don't understand the term "class issues".*

*this conclusion was drawn after seeing that the republicans were voted in again last year.
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Old 05-03-2005, 04:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It's pretty obvious that Americans have a different (or no) sense of humour than the Aussies.

I was watching it back at home one time (it was on some random cable channel) and my dad walked in, sat down, and started watching it. He didn't like/appreciate it all. He was making fun of their accents.. I had to tell them that a lot of it was put on.

meh.. I'm sure there's American comedy that Aussies don't appreciate. There just has never been a news article written about it. Nine must be bored.
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Old 05-03-2005, 12:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Not only do they not get it, they can't familiarise or associate with the characters. I knew many Kath and Kims growing up in the Melbourne 'burbs, and I'm sure we all did. That's what makes the show so cringe-inducing funny.
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Old 05-03-2005, 02:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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it's not a multi million dollar production so they might not undrestand it.
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Old 05-06-2005, 01:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I recently visited Australia for the first time a couple of weeks ago and I stumbled onto this program and I found it pretty amusing. I don't see what the fuss is about. You're not supposed to take it seriously. It's a sitcom. Just like the sitcoms we have here. The american students in that article must have been uptight republicans. (They're from Kentucky after all, a state full of republican supporters) Anything that they watch on television that isn't in their realm of "values" is pretty much devil worshipping as far as they're concerned.

The problem with most americans is that we have a sense of entitlement. The majority of people think that everything in the world is supposed to conform to them. They think that the world revolves around America. Not the other way around. So when they stumble upon something that's foreign and unfamiliar and not what they expect, they cringe. Hence, the "wary" feelings talked about in this article. Reading it didn't surprise me at all. I would expect that kind of response coming out of Kentucky.

By they way, I really enjoyed my time in Australia. You have a beautiful country down there. I'd like to visit again someday.
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Old 05-06-2005, 10:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Do people in Kentucky have a scar on their neck where the second head was removed?
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Old 05-06-2005, 11:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I dont watch Kath and Kim religously, but I do find some of their antics quite funny.
THe Poms have a weird sense of humour - have you seen a show called little britain. now THATS WEIRD..............
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Old 05-07-2005, 04:36 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Little britain is fucking annoying.

Really, it is.

I tried watching it, I did. But it just fucking annoyed me.

Though it's about as funny as any stupid skit show currently in Australia...
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Old 05-07-2005, 06:03 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Little Britain is no where near as aggravating as that tripe that's paraded as comedy - Kath and Kim.
I can't watch either show.
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Old 05-07-2005, 06:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hardknock made some rather sweeping statements above about Americans. If the same generalizations were said about any other class or race of people, it would be immediately dismissed as the ravings of lunacy. To wholly characterize 4,041,769 Kentuckians with a few trite generalizations is absurdity. The United States population currently stands at 293,027,571. Judging from what is written above, Hardknock has met them all, I suppose.
I've taken Hardknock's quote, and replaced a few key words. To wit:
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I recently visited a truly civilized society for the first time a couple of weeks ago and I stumbled onto this program and I found it pretty amusing. I don't see what the fuss is about. You're not supposed to take it seriously. It's a sitcom. Just like the sitcoms we have here. The black students in that article must have been uptight republicans. (They're from Kentucky after all, a state full of republican supporters) Anything that they watch on television that isn't in their realm of "values" is pretty much devil worshipping as far as they're concerned.

The problem with most blacks is that we have a sense of entitlement. The majority of black people think that everything in the world is supposed to conform to them. They think that the world revolves around their race. Not the other way around. So when blacks stumble upon something that's foreign and unfamiliar and not what they expect, they cringe. Hence, the "wary" feelings talked about in this article. Reading it didn't surprise me at all. I would expect that kind of response coming from black people.

By they way, I really enjoyed my time with the civilized white people in Australia. You have a beautiful country down there. I'd like to visit again someday.
This kind of bigotry would never be allowed to stand unchallenged in this forum, and rightfully so.

I guess we save our enlightened (but trendy) tolerance for groups of people that have been certified as worthly by the arbiters of cool.
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Old 05-07-2005, 06:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Hardknock made some rather sweeping statements above about Americans. If the same generalizations were said about any other class or race of people, it would be immediately dismissed as the ravings of lunacy. To wholly characterize 4,041,769 Kentuckians with a few trite generalizations is absurdity. The United States population currently stands at 293,027,571. Judging from what is written above, Hardknock has met them all, I suppose.
I've taken Hardknock's quote, and replaced a few key words. To wit:


This kind of bigotry would never be allowed to stand unchallenged in this forum, and rightfully so.

I guess we save our enlightened (but trendy) tolerance for groups of people that have been certified as worthly by the arbiters of cool.

This definitely does not belong in the Australia forum (home of "The Cunt Thread", and "Support Ella's Nipple"). This is way too serious hehe. Kinda proves the title of this thread.

But....

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The problem with most americans is that we have a sense of entitlement. The majority of people think that everything in the world is supposed to conform to them. They think that the world revolves around America. Not the other way around. So when they stumble upon something that's foreign and unfamiliar and not what they expect, they cringe. Hence, the "wary" feelings talked about in this article. Reading it didn't surprise me at all. I would expect that kind of response coming out of Kentucky.
Besides the Kentucky bit (I've never been to Kentucky), I agree with this 100%. And who cares if he made a Kentucky joke or called them "uptight republicans"? It's his opinion, and he's free to make it.

Trying to compare race (blacks) or a certain "class" of people to a "melting pot" (the US) is meaningless (IMHO). It's two different things. Apples, Oranges. The US (and the people Hardknock was talking about) transcends race, class, sex, religion. A lot of people do think the world revolves around the US. It's their comfort zone, it's how they live. That's how it goes when you're one of the strongest (if not the strongest) nation in the world.

Whatever, back to nonsense.

Never seen Little Britian.. from the sounds of it, I don't want to.
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Old 05-07-2005, 07:24 AM   #13 (permalink)
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You are right.

I forgot to take my medication.
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Old 05-07-2005, 11:26 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Yes, you did. And I'd also have to say that your mangling of my words borderlines complete lunacy. (And the fact that you use can't use any other analogy except black and white in your "example" just proves my point)

I was speaking about the country in general. Did you read the article? My reference to Kentucky is because the article made reference to Kentucky. And yes, I've been to the south and they really do keep to themselves and if you don't agree with them, you're ousted. See this article for an example. You don't have to meet every single person to get a generalization. That's the culture down there. That's how it is. If you don’t' agree with it, then I don't know what to tell you because again, that's the way it is. Also, comparing races or a class of people here is irrelevant. The fact is, that we think the world revolves around us. Period. And honestly, I think that'll be our downfall. You see, Aladdin Sane, there are some of us Americans who think that there is another world outside our borders and we would greatly benefit from trying to work with some of them for once instead of alienating everyone else all the time.


(I know thse doesn't realy belong in Australia but I felt I had to respond)

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Old 05-07-2005, 06:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 06-03-2005, 12:41 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Yeah the americans certainly have a different sense of humour to us. My sweeping generalisation about them, is that they are far more proud than us. We have that british sense of self-depricating humour. And, i can easily see why they would get offended from how we act. For instance, a bloke living over here who had 'big teeth' would be affectionately known as beaver his whole life. In short, we take the piss. Ive been with some yob footy supporters who were bogans through and through, who had the sharpest wit imagineable. Some of these guys might not know how spell, but they could make one quip on the sideline and 50 people would be pissing thier pants.
I think pommy humour is even more cut-throat than ours. They come up with the worst, most biting insults. Growing up in the school yard over there could be torturous. But brits are also the first to put themselves down, for other's amusement- so i guess it cuts both ways.
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Old 06-03-2005, 10:16 AM   #17 (permalink)
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It's not about whether they had a sense of humour or not, but about the extent to which they needed to know things to find Kath and Kim funny.
Hello?
If you don't understand Australian class, and what defines who's in what class (mannerisms, accents, etc.), then I imagine you don't really find the show amusing (and you may not find it amusing even if you do understand these things).
It's not about whether we have a sense of humor, it's about satire. If we don't understand the medium, then how can we understand when someone's making fun of it?

I'm sure there's a number of shows here that we find hillarious, but that Aussie's don't get (I don't watch a lot of sitcoms, so nothing comes to mind...).

It's not about "thinking the world revolves around us," it's about cultural knowledge informing our sense of humor.

I've listened to Eddie Izzard, and sometimes I have no idea what he's talking about (the late night petrol station joke comes to mind, about the bag of charcoal). I don't associate late night gas station with buying charcoal. That's a cultural thing.

And, since they're University students, they may have been uncomfortable by the show because it seems like it would be offensive to the group they're showing, which I'm guess from the picture is from a low socio-economic background. We're very PC over here, and a show poking fun at black people isn't acceptable (unless the actors/writers are black themselves). We don't like seeing people making fun of a group unless we know they came from that group. And with Kath and Kim, that may not appear to be the case.
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Old 06-03-2005, 11:57 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Now I'm curious about this show, but don't get the bloody thing in Canada. I've always enjoyed Brit and Aussie humour, I don't know it's always reminded me of Canadian comedy shows, people in Canada love it but show it in the US and the Yanks don't know what to make of it. Like Trailer Park Boys, Corner Gas, SCTV, or Kids in the Hall.
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