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Old 04-20-2003, 08:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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RPGs - the pencil & paper kind

I've never seen any in depth discussion on the TFP about pencil & paper RPGs, so here goes...

Who plays? What games? Do you GM? What's your favorite genre and system?

I started out as an AD&D gamer in the mid 90s, and through the years I've played ALOT of D&D both 2nd and 3rd editions. Also played quite a bit Whitewolf, mostly Mage with a little Vampire and Werewolf tossed in, as well as Shadowrun, Call of Cthulhu (both Chaosim and d20), Star Wars (West End and d20, I actually liked the d20 version better because Jedi weren't the best at EVERYTHING), and I'd love to play Exalted but can never get in on a game.

Recently my tastes have branched out into some lesser known RPGs. My current favorite system is the Tri Stat system found in Big Eyes Small Mouth (an anime RPG) and Silver Age Sentinels (superhero). I'm also pretty fond of the new Buffy the Vampire Slayer RPG, it's a neat little system and the books are GORGEOUS. I've found that I like these better than more complex RPGs like d20 or HERO because they run faster, there's less rules to remember, and very few charts you have to reference. When I was playing D&D we'd always have to break out the rulebook to check some obscure point, and with rules light RPGs I don't have to worry about it.

I GM a lot. In fact its hard for me to find a game where I can actually play and not GM. I enjoy it immensely though so I don't mind. Most of the games I run are D&D style fantasy, even though I don't really use the D&D system anymore. I would love to run a superhero game though, and I'm itching to try out my Buffy RPG.

I also own waaaaaaay too many dice.
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Old 04-20-2003, 08:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 04-20-2003, 08:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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In fact its hard for me to find a game where I can actually play and not GM.
I have the same problem. Any time I play, I'm usually GMing for newbs, or GMing for people who I've played with. I don't join established games, I tend to form my own groups, and that forces you into that position.

Not that I mind.
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I've been doing the pen and paper thing for a long time now, and I've played everything from D&D to CoNTINUUM to lesser known RPG's like Asylum and Spookshow, I've even run a 6 year LARP that has only just died ::sigh:: . I've come into some fantastic games that blow the mainline (i.e. d20 and whitewolf) rpg's clear out of the water. I mostly run, but I enjoy playing too.

The biggest problem I've noticed with the gaming group I run with now is that more than half of the players don't show up to game, they show up to hang out... while I have been accused of being a facist regarding my gaming, it's a bit discouraging to try and run a game that the players don't stay in character for more than thirty seconds.
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:15 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: RPGs - the pencil & paper kind

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I also own waaaaaaay too many dice. [/B]
No such thing man.... No such thing.
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I play some D&D 3rd edition. that's bout it though.
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:59 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I play (and own) just about any rpg I can get my hands on. I really like white-wolf. But I've played just about everything. I consider myself just as much a collecter as a player. I have over like..30 games or so
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I used to be a tabletop RPG junkie... don't play them anymore though, mainly because the people I played with never actually roleplayed, they sat around, rolled dice and argued over some obscure rule in the book for three hours. As for the games, mainly Palladium (Rifts, Marvel Superheroes, etc), Ad+d, and Shadowrun (that was my favorite).
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I've played a bit of d20 Modern and a little Vampire.

Had to stop though. There just isn't enought itme in the day to do it right now. Hopefully in a few months things will be better, and I can get back into it.
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I've played, D&D , Star wars, shadowrun 2nd, and Top Secret/SI
Top Secret SI is by far the best pen and paper I've played.
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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There used to be a bunch of books written by different authors called the Fighting Fantasy Series. Basically, it was like a 'Choose Your Own Adventure', but using two 6-sided dice. Granted, they are simpler than most RPG stories, but they still had their charms.

They were really good, but I lost interest in them several years ago. Give it a shot if you're looking for something. Especially give the Sorcery! series by Steve Jackson a try. You could have the choice of using magic spells as well.
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Old 04-21-2003, 05:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I played and GM'd in High School and college, everything from TMNT to Vampire, to AD&D, to Cyberpunk2020.

My favorite is probably Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and other Strangeness, because it was my first. The rules were simple, but it was fun to roll up a mutant sparrow who could drive around town on a motorcycle, toting katanas and an Ingram MAC-10 submachinegun. I GM'd that game for about a year and a half.

Vampire was another long GM stint, about a year there...mostly because I had a gothy GF and the game was getting me laid.

It's been years since I've played. I don't run in the right kind of circles for that kind of unashamed geekery anymore.
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Old 04-21-2003, 06:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I used to play 3rd ed. D&D quite a bit
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Old 04-21-2003, 06:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I've played a little AD&D but mainly CRPGs, I've wanted to get a AD&D 2nd group around with my friends, but I can't get them modivated. I'd like to play more, but I can't find the right people to play with.
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Old 04-22-2003, 07:46 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I have tons of RPG books that I read, but never used for gaming, such as:

- A big chunk of the Palladium series (TMNT & Other Strangeness (my first RPG book), Rifts (with many, many sourcebooks), Heroes/Villains/Aliens Unlimited, Nightbane, etc.).

- A big chunk of the White Wolf series (Vampire, Werewolf, Mage, Wraith, Hunter, also with many, many source books and novels).

- Cyberpunk 2020 and Hardwired. Great books; wondefully written.

I read and reread all of these books avidly (a really big help when I was learning English), but can't find fellow geeks to play with. I know of a few goth groups devoted to Vampire, but they're too hardcore for me (although the chicks are top shelf). I mostly read them for entertainment.
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Old 04-22-2003, 07:56 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I've played D&D since I was 10,
that was 25 years ago (1978)

I probably have over $1000 worth of books & references.
I've been collecting Dragon magazine since the start.

I just got back into it with a wonderful group,
and low & behold, I'm a player (no DMing, what a concept)

It's D&D 3rd ed. and I have a great character
A Wemic (like a centaur but half-lion)
Cleric/Sorcerer (8/8)
and I grew him from zip. (excellent character development)

I've also played BattleTech, Traveler, Twight2000, Mage and Paranoia

I've come a long way, baby.

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Old 04-22-2003, 08:01 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I play Rifts, wish they'd make a game out of this, love the way you can basically be anything you want in it. Magic, psionics and technology, old tech, new tech, blah blah blah. It's all good. Some of the rules in it are abit dodgey tho, but then you get to do what ever you want and make it your own game.

I haven't played it much of late, mainly due to my GM just can't be bothered, cause he's weighed down with UNI crap.

Ahh well.. just wait around.
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Old 04-22-2003, 09:04 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Aaaaah yes RIFTS, awesome setting, SHITTY rules. The only way I'd run it would be to port it over to another system, say GURPS or HERO or Tri Stat. Hell even d20 would work.

Well it's good to see there's so many into RPGs, I didn't expect to get this good of a response! So what kind of games do y'all run or play? My games are generally very character oriented and role play driven, I've had many a game where the whole night we just RPed with no fighting involved. Not to say that games with alot of fighting are bad, I enjoy a good hackfest like anyone else, I just prefer more RPing.
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Old 04-22-2003, 09:27 PM   #20 (permalink)
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star wars,d&d 2nd+3rd GURPS,Vampire,the EQ RPG,Rifts.

Stopped gaming because we had a couple mega-fag power gamers who always fucked the party over.
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Love to Role Play, love the odd hackfest myself too, although I seem to always choose the characters that have all these super mega powers but prefer to help the little guy and won't attack unless provoked. Go figure...

My GM usually in our campaign sets up missions where we have to find info about some guys that are causing trouble and we have to go defeat them or bring them in. We haven't actually been any real indepth type missions where we have to talk to people or get captured by the coalition and get thrown in gaol and have to escape.

That sounds interesting tho.. hehe..
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Old 04-23-2003, 12:25 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Got started with RPG's in middle school with Rifts and Starwars, in High School I hung out with some uber-nerds who actually created (and are now marketing-- http://www.tabcreations.com ) their own role playing system. It was pretty damned sweet. Now I've gotten into 3rd edition D&D, and have played Demon: The Fallen a few times on the White Wolf system.
I don't usually DM, cuz I suck at it, but have huge admiration for some friends of mine that can do it really well.
And you can -never- have too many dice. I personally have a set of tiny dice that I carry around as a good luck charm.
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Old 04-23-2003, 09:59 AM   #23 (permalink)
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D&D 1st 2nd 3rd ed. , Rifts, BattleTech, and homemade these were the best a friend of mine had the greatest ability to create story lines and it was fantastick
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Old 04-23-2003, 04:41 PM   #24 (permalink)
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So what kind of games do y'all run or play?
I like to give my players what they want.

My TMNT campaign was lots of sneaking around, combat, and humor. Mostly action and lots of dice-rolling, but that's what that setting was best at.

The Vampire campaign was almost entirely story/character driven. Many weeks could pass without combat. It was more about the mood.

I've played in both and prefer a balance between the two. Too much story can be boring if you're not into the same things the GM is or if they aren't good at drawing the players in. Too much combat is mindless.

rogue49, props to your GM for running a Mage campaign. I really liked the setting, but found the rules too loose and too hard to explain to a newbie. Unless things have changed a lot from the first edition, GMing that game would be a nightmare.

How did it play?
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Old 04-23-2003, 07:56 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Well Mage is alot tighter now than 1st edition, the rules are alot more well defined. Although its still very loose, and it still suffers from the same problem high level D&D does - if you have 5 dots in a sphere, ANY sphere really, you're damned near invincible. It takes alot of dedication and a REALLY sharp GM to run but I still love it. I'm a big fan of freeform magic in fantasy games. Infact the only game with a better magic system is Ars Magica.

My only problem is, WW screwed up the setting with 3rd edition (as they did with ALL their 3rd edition games IMO). The group I play WW with tends to ignore whatever plot they put out, but other groups sometimes see that as sacrilige
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Old 04-23-2003, 09:11 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I've played D&D off and on since middle school, largely with the same group of guys. We did 2E, and now 3E... in 2E we used a lot of house rules, not so many with third.
3 same players, same DM. Our DM is good, he likes to give us interesting and challenging situations... but is rather notorious for killing us off mercilessly.
Over the years we've added (and dropped) several players, now a few of the guys have girlfriends who play, which makes things more interesting.
The best campaigns have always involved our high level characters, who're nobles and high-ranking soldiers. Our DM lets us do all sorts of fun stuff with them, like recently we've been able to crack down on the criminal underground in our town.
The world our DM uses is a mesh between a generic D&D setting and Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time (we started way before the WoT RPG).
We've played plenty of other RPGs, but haven't really kept any of them up. Guess we're just too attached to the old standard.
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Old 04-24-2003, 06:49 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I've played a fair bit of Palldium and Rift. Not for a while though. We had a good 10 people playing back in HS, but we've all gone our seperate ways...
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Old 04-24-2003, 07:05 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Yes, mage did play loose.

But it's the skill of the DM and the players with respect to each that matters.

I like the game, because it emphasized character development
and the flavor of the story.

If you using it for classic Hack & Slash, forgettable it.

Sometimes I like Role-Playing, sometimes I like Hack & Slash
Both have their enjoyment.
Mage is definitely made for "role-playing"
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Old 04-24-2003, 11:03 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I used to play AD&D but haven't played for a long time. Would love to play again but just don't have the time. I've joined a couple of games on the web but both have been cancelled before long. I was hoping the RolePlay section here (3.0) was going to have someone running a real game but most of it was just you can do what you want and are all super powerful..wasn't too impressed.

If I find some more time perhaps I'll run a game (and if an RPG section starts up).
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Old 04-27-2003, 02:09 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I bought all the 3rd Ed. DnD books and stuff, just for the reading really... I don't have the "connections" to find anyone at all to play with. So, although I have tons of time and imagination, I can't play this game I love so much.

Neverwinter Nights helps to scratch the itch though, I guess. Someday I hope to run into someone else with PnP interests like me... this forum shows there really IS some out there.

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Old 04-27-2003, 07:14 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I lived D&D for years, I've got all the original books....Gary Gygax anyone? What does TSR stand for anyway? I was that kid in high school who was into D&D and listened to Slayer...minus killing people...man we'd have campaigns that went on for monthes...loved it, I just wish me and my friends could find the time to get back into it....Started getting into Rifts but lost interest quickly. No substitute for D&D!
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Old 04-28-2003, 01:13 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I'm really enjoying 3rd ed. D&D- have a great group of guys i play with. Waiting to see what's up with 3.5.

Have played, and liked Rifts. Had a great GM.
Have played, and liked Werewolf and Vampire. Have thus far avoided live-action. Will hopefully continue to do so.
Have played and disliked Battletech. Had unimaginitive GM.
Have played and loved Shadowrun. GREAT game for future sci-fi/fantasy mix.

Own but have never played a Tank Girl box set by World's End... they did Star Wars rpg, didn't they? Anyone familiar with the system?

I, too am finding that our games have become more and more focused on the socialising, but we still play.
Still like being the token girl of groups. I tend to be the first healed. hehe.
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