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mercury-hg 11-12-2003 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Phaenx
Those bastards and their one character deal. I want to try like 5 different jobs and can't make up my mind.

I'm thinking (main/sub): Drk/War Whm/Blm Mnk/War Sam/Mnk

I believe that during your first free month you can create characters for free, up to the max of 16 characters.

IckUber 11-12-2003 05:23 PM

You can switch your job in the game, without loosing the job before. You can go back and forth as you wish. I know someone who is a lvl 13 monk, lvl 7 blk mage and lvl 7 warrior.

Also, when you hit lvl 18 you can have subjob's so, my freind for example could use his lvl 13 monk and lvl 7 blk mage, and have 2 of his favorite combos.

rainbowninja 11-12-2003 05:59 PM

now that FFXI is out...how does it compare to....
 
HI EVERYBODY! So... my friend was tellin me how much he likes FFXI, but i have yet to see the game at all, let alone try it out. I played EQ for a long time, and shadowbane for a month or so. Liked em both, but nothing has been able to touch how bad EQ sucks you in. Wondering how you guys think it compares to the old school mmorpgs and if its worth a try! thanks studs and studdettes

Lasereth 11-12-2003 06:03 PM

There's already a huge FFXI thread on the main page. This'll probably be moved over there. I've heard so far that it takes just as long as in EQ to level up, so I imagine it's just as time consuming and addicting. I haven't played it yet, though.

-Lasereth

TerresqueÜ 11-12-2003 06:40 PM

I'm saving my pocket cash for Worlds of Warcraft, which is almost a guranteed god of a game. I believe that an online FF has the potential to suck seriously and has about a 60% chance it will...If it ever goes on a price drop perhaps ill give it a shot.

bennyb 11-12-2003 08:43 PM

Gah online fees... gah.... Can you play this single player? :D I just cant justify paying monthly for a game that i will probably only play 2 or 3 times a week... i would really like to try it though :P

Apokx 11-12-2003 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by IckUber
You can switch your job in the game, without loosing the job before. You can go back and forth as you wish. I know someone who is a lvl 13 monk, lvl 7 blk mage and lvl 7 warrior.

Also, when you hit lvl 18 you can have subjob's so, my freind for example could use his lvl 13 monk and lvl 7 blk mage, and have 2 of his favorite combos.

Your one toon could be several classes without a penalty?
What about every class in the game? And how would you deal with Several main jobs/subclasses? When you switch Main Jobs..would they have the subclass applied to the main job perma?

Or could I switch my sub dark kight for say a paladin?

soapysonic 11-13-2003 01:57 AM

Its better then eq by far, ive played eq for over 3 years and dropped it after playing this for 2 days on a friends account.

IckUber 11-13-2003 04:44 PM

ok, here is how it works, you can start off as one of 6 or so main jobs, the basics, Warrior, Monk, White Mage, Blk Mage, Red Mage, Theif. ( i think thats all) Then, at lvl 18, there will be a quest that will allow you to have a sub class. This sub class will be half the lvl that it is when its your main class.

In you Mog house, you can switch your jobs around, so, lets say im a lvl 10 warrior, but i wanted to switch to blk mage for a while. And that i got him up to lvl 10 also. then i switched to a monk, and got him to lvl 5. I choose that the warrior is my favorite, then i play him to lvl 20, i complete the sub job quest, and select blk mage at my sub class. So, i would be a lvl 20 warrior, and lvl 5 blk mage. Understand?

Then at lvl 30, new jobs open up, of course you would have to start over, at lvl 1 with a new job. *samurai, ninja, summoner, beastmaster, dark knight, palidain, dragoon* So, lets say i want to try out the beastmaster. I make the beastmaster my main job, and move my lvl 30 warrior to sub class. So now i am a lvl 1 beastmaster, and lvl 15 warrior.

Your stats and stuff are determined by your main job only. I think i got all that right.

apaux 11-13-2003 09:08 PM

too bad you have to pay monthly or else I would be playing it now.

seretogis 11-13-2003 09:28 PM

Wow, I can't believe that IckUber, FFXI's official fanboy, hasn't popped up six or seven times yet to say "BUY BUY BUY IT ROX0RZ!"..

That being said, I've heard nothing but bad reviews from friends of mine who have tried it (who I also played EQ with, by the way).

Xiangsu 11-14-2003 12:56 AM

It's ok, my brother loves it. It has nice features, especially the class system. I dont think it can really compete with any of the upcoming mmorpg's though.

Darklight Adept 11-14-2003 08:40 AM

Actually, by switching to a new main class, your sub class is limited by that. It can only be at max 1/2 of your main job, so when you picked up lvl 1 beastmaster, your warrior would be capped at 1 until you started to level up your beastmaster

IckUber 11-14-2003 03:17 PM

ahh, my bad. See im still only lvl 12, so ive still got a ways to go....

Apokx 11-14-2003 07:30 PM

Well I bought the game,and Disc 1 wont run itself on my PC (I get random errors and it refuses to run the install)

I've done everything under the sun short of formatting (Wouldnt help anyways)

The playonline disc installed fine.
I'm seriously pissed and out of ideas atm.

Also,the expansion disc runs fine..

Disc 1 in the CD rom = absolutely nothing besides an error.
It has something to do with my PC not liking disc 1 for some reason,and disc one runs fine on a friends PC.

Tells me "Setup Launcher had encountered as problem and needs to close"

IckUber 11-14-2003 08:17 PM

call playonline support, or maybe take it back to your retailer...

Ooja Nikaboloko 11-15-2003 02:58 PM

update cd drivers/firmware and it should be ok.

IckUber 11-17-2003 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by seretogis
Wow, I can't believe that IckUber, FFXI's official fanboy, hasn't popped up six or seven times yet to say "BUY BUY BUY IT ROX0RZ!"..

That being said, I've heard nothing but bad reviews from friends of mine who have tried it (who I also played EQ with, by the way).

OUCH, haha, sure call me a fan boy, but honestly look around, i dont know how anyone can say that it "60% chance of SUCK" read these threads, everyone is loving this game, because it is great. If im hurting anyone from looking at it, then ill shut up, but i would like to hear why you think its a bad game, "cause your freind says so" give some valid reasons, before you automaticly assume its a pile of shit. I dont need you harrasing me for games that I enjoy.

Vilkata 11-18-2003 02:02 AM

Being a vet of many MMORPGS(UO, AC, EQ, SWG) I must say that this game is absolute....


COOL! :p

I've been pretty hooked on it when I play. This last Saturday I spent 10 hours straight playing it. Then again, I loved SWG when I first got it. That only lasted for a month. So I'll let you know in 3 weeks if it is actually a good investment or not :p

Mr.Deflok 11-18-2003 02:12 AM

I'm not into MMPORPG's but it would've been neat if they included a single-player campaign to FFXI like they did for Uru: Ages Beyond Myst. Looks like a fantastic game, hope you guys are enjoying it!

Lasereth 11-18-2003 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
I'm not into MMPORPG's but it would've been neat if they included a single-player campaign to FFXI like they did for Uru: Ages Beyond Myst. Looks like a fantastic game, hope you guys are enjoying it!
FFXII...only a few more years away. :( Dammit I want a new single player Final Fantasy now! Wait...that's what FFX-2 is for. Well, you know what I mean, I just want to see a new world with new characters! :)

-Lasereth

Plan9Senior 11-23-2003 10:35 PM

Bump, how are you all enjoying this game now that you have been playing it more?

Konichiwaneko 11-24-2003 12:01 AM

it's fun...I'm currently a level 22 war, 16 whm, 10 monk

Beltruckus 11-24-2003 12:59 AM

It's awesome, right now i'm lvl 30thief just got 20 darkknight which is an advanced profession tonight. I didn't think i could have as much fun as I did when I first started everquest back when It was just young and fun, but i am with this game.

Skifter2 11-24-2003 04:39 AM

Being a big fan of Player v. Player i would like to ask if there has been any hints as to when the PvP is going to beimplemented ?

As much as i like PvP i really detest Mezz, Roots and Stuns. Could you tell me if those "features" are in the game ?

Thanks in advance :)

IckUber 11-24-2003 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skifter2
Being a big fan of Player v. Player i would like to ask if there has been any hints as to when the PvP is going to beimplemented ?

As much as i like PvP i really detest Mezz, Roots and Stuns. Could you tell me if those "features" are in the game ?

Thanks in advance :)

I want to say i heard someone say Febuary they will patch the game to allow PvP with other regions in the game. IE if you are in Windurst, and from Bastok, and Windurstians are in control, then you can be attacked.. I actually dont know how they are going to do this, but im sure it will be cool, and fair to those who dont want to pvp.

CyCo PL 11-24-2003 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seretogis
Wow, I can't believe that IckUber, FFXI's official fanboy, hasn't popped up six or seven times yet to say "BUY BUY BUY IT ROX0RZ!"..

That being said, I've heard nothing but bad reviews from friends of mine who have tried it (who I also played EQ with, by the way).

The play style of the game is completely different than EQ. FFXI is supposed to be played like a console game, with a controller. And if you have a PS2 controller adapter and a ps2 controller, it plays so naturally and easily that it will make the game seem a lot better just because of that. Your EQ player friends were probably using mouse/keyboard, and I'll admit, the game plays terribly with mouse/keyboard, and it makes the game worse.

And before somebody says "why should I have to buy a ps2 adapter for a PC game", I'll point out that FFXI on pc is a PORT. It's a port from the PS2 game that will be released next year. The game was made for a PS2 controller, so of course it's going to play a lot better when you're using one.

FFXI definitely isn't for everybody, like probably EQ fans. But don't let someone's first impression be your first impression. They probably didn't even make it past level 10 and experience the aspect of partying and performing high level skillchains. The further I get in the game, the more it feels like I'm actually playing a FF game and not a mmorpg with an FF theme. Sometimes it feels kind of like when I played Secret of Mana multiplayer on the SNES. FFXI is a great game.

nanofever 11-24-2003 04:38 PM

I was going to try it but then I heard they charge extra for a second character, they are not even trying to hide the fact that they are "money whores".

CyCo PL 11-24-2003 04:48 PM

There is no need to make more than one character in ffxi.

Rudel73 11-24-2003 04:50 PM

nanofever if you even looked at the game you would realize there is no point in having more than 1 character, with the abilities and classes and such you can completly drop your class and start over with a new class with the same character, or go back to a different one whenever you choose...so why would you need another character? Its only 1 dollar extra per character anyway like thats huge money

IckUber 11-24-2003 04:55 PM

yes the jobs are complealty switchable, plus, when you get your job high enough to have a sub class, one of the old jobs you played around with could be your subjob.

nanofever 11-24-2003 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Rudel73
nanofever if you even looked at the game you would realize there is no point in having more than 1 character, with the abilities and classes and such you can completly drop your class and start over with a new class with the same character, or go back to a different one whenever you choose...so why would you need another character? Its only 1 dollar extra per character anyway like thats huge money
I don't know the level-up system that well but I'm willing to bet that when you level as a certain class your stats will adjust to suit that class more. I'm also willing to bet that like everyother mmorpg the leveling treadmill has a soft cap where leveling becomes very hard after a certain level.

Will my "max" level fighter be able to become a black mage and cast like a black which has leveled in that class from level one ?

If it can the game is stupid, if it can't then other characters become important.

The fact that square has the balls to charge for extra characters (not to mention the absurd worldpass system) is the issue, not how much they charge.

Skifter2 11-25-2003 12:01 AM

SWG had Single Character Servers, and i hated it. At least here you get the option to buy another character.

I am what some have called a "dabbler". That means i like to try out many different characters/classes instead of focusing on just one.

Anyway, i wont be palying until they implement PvP. :D

IckUber 11-25-2003 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nanofever
I don't know the level-up system that well but I'm willing to bet that when you level as a certain class your stats will adjust to suit that class more. I'm also willing to bet that like everyother mmorpg the leveling treadmill has a soft cap where leveling becomes very hard after a certain level.

Will my "max" level fighter be able to become a black mage and cast like a black which has leveled in that class from level one ?

If it can the game is stupid, if it can't then other characters become important.

The fact that square has the balls to charge for extra characters (not to mention the absurd worldpass system) is the issue, not how much they charge.

No, if you switch from you lvl 10 Warrior to a blk mage, the mage starts out as lvl 1. But you lvl 10 warrior doesnt reset, so if you like him better, you can switch him back, no penelty. Only when you get your subclass (lvl 18) can you use your other class. The sub job class is capped by half the level of the main one, so if you had a lvl 10 blk mage saved up, and your warrior is lvl 18, then the blk mage can only be lvl 9, when you get to 20, the blk mage will have the skill of 10. There are small stat bonuses depending on what combo of main/subjob you choose.

CyCo PL 11-25-2003 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skifter2
SWG had Single Character Servers, and i hated it. At least here you get the option to buy another character.

I am what some have called a "dabbler". That means i like to try out many different characters/classes instead of focusing on just one.

Anyway, i wont be palying until they implement PvP. :D

One character can be EVERY CLASS, just not at the same time. The only reason to need more than one character in FFXI is if you picked a race like Galka, and want to play an effective mage. Galka aren't very good mages because they are stupid and have low MP's. But they can still play a mage character.

Plan9Senior 11-25-2003 10:11 AM

Ok, I went and picked up this game. Played it last night and aside from the horrible interface I was impressed. Not sure if it will keep me interested past the free month, but I will see. I am on Diabolos and an elf (level 5 in like 4 diff jobs cuz I don't know which I want). I applied for the new server.

Buk 11-26-2003 01:10 AM

I'm lovin the game so far.

Are alot of you emmigrating to the new server? I can't make up my mind if I want to be on a new server with not as stable an economy and such, but probably more american players... I am on diabolos atm...

Cardinal Syn 11-28-2003 11:14 PM

I am picking the game up tomarrow. Gonna give it a shot. It will be somthing different then spending my time on Shadowbane on Coruption server.

Apokx 11-29-2003 01:04 AM

The game is much better with a gamepad,as the UI wasn't really designed for the PC (Most games are aimed toward the PS2).
Anywho,the game system is not too shabby,though it doesent compell me to play like EverQuest did when I started it.


I'm not looking forward to PvP ;x

Beltruckus 11-29-2003 10:58 AM

I'm having no problems playing this game with keyboard and mouse, If you use the hotkeys and switch the style to compressed i think it is, it makes it a ton easier.


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