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Old 05-12-2005, 06:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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xbox 360 premieres on MTV

so the 360 has premiered!
the games look amazing!
the console looks great!
the controllers look like they stuck to a formula that worked
overall im impressed
the changable face plates seem kinda silly

what do you guys think?

there is also a play by play of the program on my site battlemouth.com

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Old 05-12-2005, 06:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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after putting some deeper thought into the program
it all seemed so painfully scripted
additionally they were quite careful not to give out any real juicy info
what was with the xbox being in a messenger bag?
also
it seemed very sociologically planned that they covered both genders and all ethnicities during their "death match"
way to cover all the bases microsoft!
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Old 05-12-2005, 06:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree with pretty much every point you made. The face plates are really silly. I'm not a huge fan of how the console looks, and while wireless controllers will be nice, will they be rechargable on some sort of dock or will I have to keep buying batteries? (I'm sure it'll probably be the latter.) The games do look very nice, though.

As for the "show"...I hated it. It was, as you said, entirely too scripted and boring. On the upside, though, The Killers are pretty damn good live.
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Old 05-12-2005, 06:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i tuned in... even bothered to TIVO the thing.

however, i was very underwhelmed. i certainly expected all the corporate propaganda, but i was disappointed with the quality of the production and how they debuted the console.

strictly speaking about the console itself... it seemed like a decent machine, though i don't think the production did a very good job of marketing it to hardcore gamers. it seemed like a setpiece designed to reign in people who haven't been keeping up with the next-gen developments. it does seem a bit alarming that not much detail was given to the nuts and bolts of the console.

the games looked pretty, but i didn't see a marked improvement over what is currently offered. perhaps the difference would be obvious viewing the footage in 720p?

i guess underwhelmed and a bit disinterested is my immediate reaction in total. probably not what microsoft was going for.
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Old 05-12-2005, 07:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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the games looked pretty, but i didn't see a marked improvement over what is currently offered. perhaps the difference would be obvious viewing the footage in 720p?
i agree the games didnt look amazingly better than whats already out there
although im not going to made a final judgment until i see them in person

additionally
controllers for this baby are going to be sky high
i mean look at wireless controllers for xbox now
a nice one is 70 bucks and thats from a 3rd party developer
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Old 05-12-2005, 07:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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did you also notice the thing where if you want to customize your character have to buy something? is that just wierd or what?
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Old 05-12-2005, 07:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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did you also notice the thing where if you want to customize your character have to buy something? is that just wierd or what?
yeah, seiously, im finding it hard to think of my hard earned money to be spent on digital clothing.
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Old 05-12-2005, 07:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The show itself was horrible.

The controllers look like an incomplete version of the ones they have today.

The console looks really bland.

Than again it's all about game play, I can't wait to see some of these news games. I'll wait to see what Sony has to offer, and maybe their console will actually look cool.
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Old 05-12-2005, 07:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Waiting for the PS3 and the Nintendo Revolution announcements...
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Old 05-12-2005, 09:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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A couple things that have been on the net since the world premiere:

1. System can be shut off and turned on via the wireless controller.

May seem stupid to point out, but I just thought it was nifty.

2. System has built in wifi internet access.

This is something I thought sounded amazing. I have a cord going from my wireless router to my xbox because there was no way I was going to shell out the money for the wireless station "thingy" they have out there. One thing I am wondering about xbox Live is whether or not your going to have to pay for it. Couldn't find any concrete info, but I didn't look too hard.



As far as the show goes, yeah, it was shameful for the most part. I don't like the Killers, however I will give them credit for doing an incredible job live. Everything seemed extremely scripted, but I filtered things out. I loved Perfect Dark on the N64 and I thought it was far superior to Goldeneye. To say the least I am excited to see it in action. Now all that is left is to wait and see what the PS3 and Revolution have to offer.
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Old 05-12-2005, 11:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I forgot to watch the damn thing.
Will it be re-airing, do y'all know?

Also, can you guys list the games, other than the Perfect Dark sequel, that they showed?
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Old 05-12-2005, 11:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I forgot to watch the damn thing.
Will it be re-airing, do y'all know?

Also, can you guys list the games, other than the Perfect Dark sequel, that they showed?
it was already on again
so im assuming it'll be on a bunch more
lets see what games i can remember
call of duty
quake 4
madden
tigerwoods
tom clancy
tony hawk
there were a few more i cant remember
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Old 05-13-2005, 12:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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...One thing I am wondering about xbox Live is whether or not your going to have to pay for it. Couldn't find any concrete info, but I didn't look too hard.
I read today at work (and I'll try to dig up the article...) that there would be two subscription levels. Basic access to Live would allow you to post up a profile, buy stuff and be free. Whereas, the next level up would be all that plus on-line gaming.

I know I read that today....
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Old 05-13-2005, 12:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I forgot to watch the damn thing.
Will it be re-airing, do y'all know?

Also, can you guys list the games, other than the Perfect Dark sequel, that they showed?
it's on again sunday morning at 9am ET.

Also saw clips of a Tiger Woods game, the next Tony Hawk (no load times, and just one enormous level....L.A. Plus online play), Madden '06.....can't think of anything else right now
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Old 05-13-2005, 01:14 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It's not what I read this morning, but here's what I found off of a link from slashdot...

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Not sure if Microsoft is happy or angry about the Xbox 360 leaks lately. The latest one comes from various sources. Xbox Live obviously will play a big role in the next generation Xbox. Microsoft is getting smart this time around and incorporating some kick-ass features. Just think a free version and a paid version. Check out the specifications below. Microsoft has not yet commented on this rumor.

2 Types Of Xbox Live:

Xbox Live Silver (no subscription required)
Xbox Live Gold (subscription benefits)
Features For Gold Service:
* = Also For Silver
# = Also for Offline
Seamless transition to Xbox Live account from Xbox to Xbox 360
Access to MMOs (additional fees may apply) *
Free Xbox Live weekends *
Multiplayer online gameplay
Avatar for gamer profile * #
Motto for gamer profile * #
Personalized look for Xbox System Guide * #
Offline achievements * #
Online achievements *
Access to other players' Gamer cards via Live *
Cumulative gamer score * #
Location/language profile * #
Reputation *
Enhanced matchmaking using above
Skill level matchmaking
Gameplay style profile (casual, competitive, etc.)
Recent players list *
Free and premium download game content *
Free and premium downloadable movies, music, tv *
Downloadable demos/trailers *
Micro transactions *
Custom playlist in every game * #
Play music from portable devices * #
View images from digital camera * #
Stream media from Windows XP * #
Interactive screen savers * #
Track info for CDs * #
Communication with voice, video or text *
Like I said, it isn't what I read today, but at least it's a start, no?
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Old 05-13-2005, 01:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thanks, battlemouth and Derwood. I'll set my vcr.
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Old 05-13-2005, 01:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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* Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features with broadband service, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, gamer profile for digital identity, and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies, or listening to music
* Built-in Ethernet port
* Wi-Fi ready: 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g
* Video camera ready
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I am assuming that by wi-fi ready they have it built in, but I could very well be wrong and if so someone please crush my hopes before I build them up to high. The reason I started to question this was because of IGN's FAQ, here is what they said:

"Customers can purchase an additional 802.11a.b, and g peripheral that will allow the system to connect to any wireless access point. Additionally, if users already use a wireless access point on their current setup, this will be supported in Xbox 360."




**edit**

The sad truth:

Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter
Designed for versatility and ease, the Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter enhances your Xbox 360 experience in the digital home, seamlessly synchronizing with the Xbox 360 system. You can easily transfer videos and music to your Xbox 360 system from your Media Center PC, chat with your friends, play games via Xbox Live, and more—all without the clutter of wires.

* The Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter is highly versatile and supports 802.11b, 802.11g, and 802.11a.
* The Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter is powered seamlessly by your Xbox 360 gaming console, so there's no external power adapter to plug in.
* You can transfer high-definition video and CD-quality music from your Media Center PC to your Xbox 360 via 802.11a wireless media support.

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Old 05-13-2005, 06:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
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well thats a downer that they are making you purchase the wifi adapter
the more i found out the more the 360 loses its appeal
i'll still be buying one though
damn video game addiction...
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:32 PM   #19 (permalink)
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does it have a hard drive or will it be using memory cards?
i heard from someone it wont have a hard drive..
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Old 05-14-2005, 06:01 AM   #20 (permalink)
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does it have a hard drive or will it be using memory cards?
i heard from someone it wont have a hard drive..
$369ish with the HD
$299ish without
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Old 05-14-2005, 07:09 AM   #21 (permalink)
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$369ish with the HD
$299ish without
Wrong. All of the consoles will be shipped with a removable 20GB HD, which can be upgraded in the future if needed.

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Yes, there is a removable 20 gigabyte hard drive included with every console. Players can remove the drive and carry it to a friend's house to transfer large amounts of information.
Quoted from xbox360.ign.com

Full specs can be seen @ http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox360/factsheet.htm
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Old 05-14-2005, 11:04 AM   #22 (permalink)
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i also watched the whole thing on MTV. i love the design of the case and how you can change the faceplates. Those built in wireless controllers are a great idea. wow for perfect dark, it looked really nice when they were playing it!

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Wrong. All of the consoles will be shipped with a removable 20GB HD, which can be upgraded in the future if needed.
NICE! i also was under the impression of the 299 without 369 with. so whats the price range now that they all come with the 20 gb?

edit: 'perfect dark zero' is the name of the game i'm talking about
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Old 05-14-2005, 07:07 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The videos linked below give you a lot more info. The MTV thing sucked, but it was more for the masses; it was just a big commercial.

I didn't start getting excited about it until I watched these videos. I have a 110" screen with a projector capable of 1600 x 1200, so the thought of four-way split-screen 1080i gaming does have me pretty excited. I just hope we don't have to wait too long for good games.

http://www.ourcolony.net/

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6124293/index.html
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Old 05-16-2005, 07:28 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Just saw the show, I thought it was all hype and low on content. I want to see up closein game video without cutscenes. And without all these lights flashing and quick camera clips to a bunch of random people in a room cheering because they are on MTV. Also, what's with those 3 that call themselves profesional gamers. And he made 80k last year or whatever. How do I sign up for that!

Also, I've tried wireless controllers for both XBox and PS2. They all cause, although minimal, a bit of lag. And that isn't acceptable for online shooters. I just hope that is cleared up. If not, I'll stick with my wires...
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Old 05-16-2005, 09:25 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I was greatly disappointed with the MTV special, but I'm still going to get it when it comes out. Better media can be found on the net.
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