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sub zero · 05-20-2005, 02:18 PM

http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/...spx?i=2420&p=5

Just scroll down and read the captions to the pics. Kinda scary if you ask me.

superiorrain · 05-20-2005, 02:50 PM

Thats just funny, Microsoft xbox not powered by microsoft. Does make you wonder whether they'll ever even make their release date. Good find.

guthmund · 05-20-2005, 03:08 PM

Oh that is funny!

Jobs should make those pictures mandatory for every future press conference thingy he does.

And if Microsoft issues a nasty press release, these should be the automatic response without exception.

cyrnel · 05-20-2005, 03:09 PM

Every system begins with a development platform. In this case the Mac G5's are the closest, easist to procure G5 MP match. The fact they run *nix means healthy cross development tools.

I'm a little surprised they didn't have functional protos for E3 but major components are still pre-production (i.e. processors).

Krycheck · 05-20-2005, 05:15 PM

I knew something wasn't right when the controlers were wired.

When Xbox premiered in 2003 they had PC's running all Xbox games then too. Although it is nice to see MS use Apples for development reasons.

Wingless · 05-21-2005, 12:43 PM

It's nice, yet ironic.

Konichiwaneko · 05-22-2005, 07:55 AM

I dont' know, Microsoft also produces products for Mac so I don't see anything immediately wrong with this. Also wouldn't it been the game developers itself choice on what to use to make the games? Where those all microsoft games or other studios?

Kinda amusing, but would of been nice if those girls were being run by two ps2's

skinnymofo · 05-22-2005, 02:24 PM

i thought microsoft owned some of the apple computers company?

cyrnel · 05-22-2005, 02:41 PM

Probably somewhere in their portfolio. There was a sizable investment in the early-90's during MacOffice and "we're all friends" promotions but I believe they got out of that a few years later.

Apple likely owns some M$ as well. Just a normal part of a diversified investment portfolio. Not on the same scale, but both companies have lots of cash in the bank.

Jesus Pimp · 05-23-2005, 01:11 AM

Pretty funny though. I don't see anything wrong either. Microsoft didn't invent PCs. At least they don't have to worry about BSODs this E3

MexicanOnABike · 05-23-2005, 03:08 PM

ehehhee.. that's funny!

"We are disappointed that all of Microsoft's Xbox 360 kiosks were running G5 systems as we wanted to see real hardware in action, not behind glass, but Apple should be quite happy."

i hope they crash and burn.. then more publishers would go for the ps3.

Krycheck · 05-23-2005, 09:12 PM

You got to remember. Xbox360 run on PowerPC processors. How else are you gonna develop games for them? This was a risk they were willing to take to beat Sony and Nintendo to the "We showed ours off first" punch.

cyrnel · 05-31-2005, 10:39 AM

An <a href="http://www.thestreet.com/_tscs/tech/software/10225293.html">interview from thestreet.com with M$'s Xbox honcho, J. Allard.</a>

Light on details but the Mac relationship is covered along with another hint about introductory pricing.

MontanaXVI · 05-31-2005, 03:21 PM

it is just more humor than anything to think that a company would use someone elses technology to show off their own in a sense.

I am sure it happens all the time we all know it does, but the humor is still there.

cyrnel · 06-02-2005, 10:31 AM

Here's <a href="http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/xbox360-2.ars">a good overview of the 360's PPC processor</a> by John Stokes of arstech.

I think he dwells too long on cache and core parallelism drawbacks for a specialized media cpu. It'll certainly require developers to tune their code to the execution units, but that's fine so long as MS doesn't add too many scheduler bells to the OS. Lots more bang for the dollar if they keep it simple.

Overall, a good intro. Hope we see silicon soon.

05-20-2005, 02:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
sub zero Addict Location: The one state that doesn't have black outs: TEXAS BABY!!!	Interesting pics at the Xbox 360 booth. http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/...spx?i=2420&p=5 Just scroll down and read the captions to the pics. Kinda scary if you ask me. __________________ Did you Google it yet? Join the TFP Typing team!!

05-20-2005, 02:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
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05-20-2005, 03:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
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05-20-2005, 03:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
cyrnel Adequate Location: In my angry-dome.	Every system begins with a development platform. In this case the Mac G5's are the closest, easist to procure G5 MP match. The fact they run *nix means healthy cross development tools. I'm a little surprised they didn't have functional protos for E3 but major components are still pre-production (i.e. processors). __________________ There are a vast number of people who are uninformed and heavily propagandized, but fundamentally decent. The propaganda that inundates them is effective when unchallenged, but much of it goes only skin deep. If they can be brought to raise questions and apply their decent instincts and basic intelligence, many people quickly escape the confines of the doctrinal system and are willing to do something to help others who are really suffering and oppressed." -Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, p. 195

05-20-2005, 05:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Krycheck Sultana ruined my evil persona Location: Los Angeles	I knew something wasn't right when the controlers were wired. When Xbox premiered in 2003 they had PC's running all Xbox games then too. Although it is nice to see MS use Apples for development reasons. __________________ His pants are tight...but his morals are loose!!

05-21-2005, 12:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
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05-22-2005, 07:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
Konichiwaneko The Dreaded Pixel Nazi Location: Inside my camera	I dont' know, Microsoft also produces products for Mac so I don't see anything immediately wrong with this. Also wouldn't it been the game developers itself choice on what to use to make the games? Where those all microsoft games or other studios? Kinda amusing, but would of been nice if those girls were being run by two ps2's __________________ Hesitate. Pull me in. Breath on breath. Skin on skin. Loving deep. Falling fast. All right here. Let this last. Here with our lips locked tight. Baby the time is right for us... to forget about us.

05-22-2005, 02:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
skinnymofo Addict ed to smack Location: Seattle	i thought microsoft owned some of the apple computers company?

05-22-2005, 02:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
cyrnel Adequate Location: In my angry-dome.	Probably somewhere in their portfolio. There was a sizable investment in the early-90's during MacOffice and "we're all friends" promotions but I believe they got out of that a few years later. Apple likely owns some M$ as well. Just a normal part of a diversified investment portfolio. Not on the same scale, but both companies have lots of cash in the bank. __________________ There are a vast number of people who are uninformed and heavily propagandized, but fundamentally decent. The propaganda that inundates them is effective when unchallenged, but much of it goes only skin deep. If they can be brought to raise questions and apply their decent instincts and basic intelligence, many people quickly escape the confines of the doctrinal system and are willing to do something to help others who are really suffering and oppressed." -Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, p. 195

05-23-2005, 01:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jesus Pimp The Original JizzSmacka	Pretty funny though. I don't see anything wrong either. Microsoft didn't invent PCs. At least they don't have to worry about BSODs this E3 __________________ Never date anyone who doesn't make your dick hard.

05-23-2005, 03:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
MexicanOnABike Location: up north	ehehhee.. that's funny! "We are disappointed that all of Microsoft's Xbox 360 kiosks were running G5 systems as we wanted to see real hardware in action, not behind glass, but Apple should be quite happy." i hope they crash and burn.. then more publishers would go for the ps3. __________________ - Movie Reviews - Ratings-

05-23-2005, 09:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
Krycheck Sultana ruined my evil persona Location: Los Angeles	You got to remember. Xbox360 run on PowerPC processors. How else are you gonna develop games for them? This was a risk they were willing to take to beat Sony and Nintendo to the "We showed ours off first" punch. __________________ His pants are tight...but his morals are loose!!

05-31-2005, 10:39 AM	#13 (permalink)
cyrnel Adequate Location: In my angry-dome.	An <a href="http://www.thestreet.com/_tscs/tech/software/10225293.html">interview from thestreet.com with M$'s Xbox honcho, J. Allard.</a> Light on details but the Mac relationship is covered along with another hint about introductory pricing. __________________ There are a vast number of people who are uninformed and heavily propagandized, but fundamentally decent. The propaganda that inundates them is effective when unchallenged, but much of it goes only skin deep. If they can be brought to raise questions and apply their decent instincts and basic intelligence, many people quickly escape the confines of the doctrinal system and are willing to do something to help others who are really suffering and oppressed." -Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, p. 195

05-31-2005, 03:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
MontanaXVI Junkie Location: Go A's!!!!	it is just more humor than anything to think that a company would use someone elses technology to show off their own in a sense. I am sure it happens all the time we all know it does, but the humor is still there. __________________ Spank you very much

06-02-2005, 10:31 AM	#15 (permalink)
cyrnel Adequate Location: In my angry-dome.	Here's <a href="http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/xbox360-2.ars">a good overview of the 360's PPC processor</a> by John Stokes of arstech. I think he dwells too long on cache and core parallelism drawbacks for a specialized media cpu. It'll certainly require developers to tune their code to the execution units, but that's fine so long as MS doesn't add too many scheduler bells to the OS. Lots more bang for the dollar if they keep it simple. Overall, a good intro. Hope we see silicon soon. __________________ There are a vast number of people who are uninformed and heavily propagandized, but fundamentally decent. The propaganda that inundates them is effective when unchallenged, but much of it goes only skin deep. If they can be brought to raise questions and apply their decent instincts and basic intelligence, many people quickly escape the confines of the doctrinal system and are willing to do something to help others who are really suffering and oppressed." -Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, p. 195