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Old 06-17-2005, 05:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was looking at pics of the Xbox 360 controller, and noticed no Black or White button. How will this thing do backwards compatability when several games use every single button available on the Xbox controller?
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Old 06-17-2005, 05:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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My guess is there'll be a special edition 'Classic' controller, available for $49.99, made from new lightweight materials and a chunk of depleted uranium for that 'oldskool' feel.
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Old 06-17-2005, 07:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The 360 is NOT backwards compatible, so they really don't need to put the black and white buttons on.
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Old 06-17-2005, 08:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I really don't know where that came from...

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"At launch, Xbox 360 will be backward compatible with the top Xbox games," Xbox PR manager Michael Wolf told GamesIndustry.biz today. "Our goal is to have every Xbox game work on Xbox 360. You will NOT need to purchase a new 'version' - your original games will work on Xbox 360."
Every article I've read seems to indicate that the 360 will be backwards compatible. How exactly and at what cost, nobody seems to know, but Microsoft is sure that it will happen.

As for the controller question...




The two new shoulder buttons on the top, at least according to the few websites I hit, will serve as the black and white buttons for the older games.
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Old 06-17-2005, 12:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I really don't know where that came from...



Every article I've read seems to indicate that the 360 will be backwards compatible. How exactly and at what cost, nobody seems to know, but Microsoft is sure that it will happen.[/b]
I'm just going by what the Microsoft Representative where I work said, and he's always right.
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Like 100,000 places have said it would be backwards compatible if you buy the upgraded version. It was even announced at E3 that it would be backwards compatible.

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Old 06-17-2005, 06:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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They haven't announced how, yet. The level of emulation needed would suggest a recompile of the software would be needed, and it would be up to the original publishers/developers to do that.
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Old 06-17-2005, 06:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I really don't know where that came from...



Every article I've read seems to indicate that the 360 will be backwards compatible. How exactly and at what cost, nobody seems to know, but Microsoft is sure that it will happen.

As for the controller question...




The two new shoulder buttons on the top, at least according to the few websites I hit, will serve as the black and white buttons for the older games.
Cool, hadn't seen that angle on the controller. Sucks though, as I loathe shoulder buttons to the core of my soul. The triggers on the back of the Xbox controller (and the Dreamcast before it) are/were awesome, but shoulder buttons are teh suck.
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Old 06-17-2005, 08:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I really like the controller. It sure beats the boomerang double dildo PS3 controller. Am I only one who's not buying an Xbox 360 for backwards compatability? I want to play new games, not play old Xbox games I have already beaten. It's an added plus if it's included. When I bought my PS2 I was all hyped up to play my old PSone games it. I played maybe 2 or 3 and never put another one in since I had it.
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Old 06-17-2005, 08:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I dunno, it just screams GameCube to me
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Old 06-17-2005, 10:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree with you Hulk.
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Old 06-18-2005, 04:44 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I really like the controller. It sure beats the boomerang double dildo PS3 controller. Am I only one who's not buying an Xbox 360 for backwards compatability? I want to play new games, not play old Xbox games I have already beaten. It's an added plus if it's included. When I bought my PS2 I was all hyped up to play my old PSone games it. I played maybe 2 or 3 and never put another one in since I had it.
The Controller does? It looks almost EXACTLY like the old Xbox controller! Gamecube controllers have every button a different shape and size, plus the A and B buttons are backwards...
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Old 06-18-2005, 08:51 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Am I only one who's not buying an Xbox 360 for backwards compatability? I want to play new games, not play old Xbox games I have already beaten. It's an added plus if it's included. When I bought my PS2 I was all hyped up to play my old PSone games it. I played maybe 2 or 3 and never put another one in since I had it.
But isn't it nice to be able to go back and play some old favorites without having to whip out and hook up another console?

I still play the old final fantasty games on my PS from time to time. It's nice being able to use just the one machine.

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Cool, hadn't seen that angle on the controller. Sucks though, as I loathe shoulder buttons to the core of my soul. The triggers on the back of the Xbox controller (and the Dreamcast before it) are/were awesome, but shoulder buttons are teh suck.
I'm not a big fan of the shoulder buttons either. My nephew has a third party controller for the x-box with both black and white buttons on the face and as shoulder buttons. It is very annoying.
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Old 06-18-2005, 10:57 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I personally think the black and white buttons are terrible on the xbox controllers, its a freaking work to reach my fingers too them and then theres only a 50% chance I'll hit the right one. The 2 shoulder buttons on the ps2 controller also suck, it's too much shoulderage, gamecube is by far my favorite controller design.

P.S playstation stop using shapes for your buttons and switch to abxy like the rest of the systems, I can never get the hang of what shape is where.
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Old 06-18-2005, 11:31 AM   #15 (permalink)
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for some strange reason the 360 reminds me so much of the dreamcast
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Old 06-18-2005, 12:06 PM   #16 (permalink)
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for some strange reason the 360 reminds me so much of the dreamcast
Which is an entirely good thing. Dreamcast was the best of it's generation (with PSone and N64)
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I personally think the black and white buttons are terrible on the xbox controllers, its a freaking work to reach my fingers too them and then theres only a 50% chance I'll hit the right one. The 2 shoulder buttons on the ps2 controller also suck, it's too much shoulderage, gamecube is by far my favorite controller design.

P.S playstation stop using shapes for your buttons and switch to abxy like the rest of the systems, I can never get the hang of what shape is where.
The first time I saw the b&w buttons i was rather confused and figured they would hardly ever be used. The one thing i hate is switching between the smaller controller and the larger one (i have two orig small ones and two generic big ones) and having to get used the different placement of the b&w buttons. I hate my home-repaired bulky plasticky generic controllers. And now one of my small ones is acting up .

One of the reasons i'm looking forward to getting the 360 is spiffy new wireless controllers. I LOVE the Xbox triggers (first time i experienced triggers that i can remember.) and do think the shoulder buttons should be better than the b&w ones.

One thing that bugs me about the ABXY/shapes thing is that when im playing with someone whose never played Xbox (they're not officially in SA so not everybody here is familiar with them) i'll say "hit X" and they'll hit A cus thats where it is on the PS. Then i'll try using colours and thats when they start getting really confused. Good things the games are so great, 90% of the time they prefer Xbox. And if they have any doubt... 4 controllers man.
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