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Old 12-01-2008, 12:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Random Drug Testing

long story short, i nhave an interview coming up and also a drug test to pass.
i smoke a little weed, thats all .. nothing hard.
my question is, is there any way to pass a urine test if i have smoked in the past week or so ...?
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Old 12-01-2008, 12:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you're out of a job, don't smoke weed. You can't afford it and it could end up costing you job opportunities. Will you pass? If you use it daily, it could stay in your system for up to a month. If you only use it occasionally, it generally leaves your system in a week or less.

To quote Gandalf, "You shall not pass!"

So what are your options? You can cheat or you can be honest. I'd recommend the latter.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Unless you're an EMT or an airplane pilot, it's really none of your employer's god damned business what you put in your body. It's a complete invasion of personal privacy and it's a shame so many people are willing to submit to it. The mere suggestion would be such an insult to me, I'd tell them where to put their job.

Anyway, if you insist on pissing in a cup for money, you usually have more than enough advance notice to stop taking any drugs. If you don't smoke very much, a week is probably fine. Basically you want to be exercising and pissing as much as you can during that time. There are products available at most fine smoke shops that may help. Even if you fail they'll probably just retest you. And you should be smart enough not to take anything before that one. That's all a drug test really is, an intelligence test to make sure even if you're drugging you're smart enough to stop for 1-2 weeks in the case of marijuana or 2-3 days in the case of just about everything else (though if you weren't I'd question why they want to hire you in the first place).
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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. . . thanks, i think ... lol

thanks for the time and trouble my friends.

by no means am i chronic ...

and i can afford to purchase what small amouts i do go through ...

the job came up kind of sudden, otherwise i would have been "smart" enough to quite well in advance.

i presently don't "need" the job per say, just dont want to miss an oppertunity is all.
my feelings are similar when it comes to privacy, and what i decide to put into my own body, however i would "lump" a few more proffesions into that catageory ... just as long as they ain't high when there there for my benefit, if you catch my drift ...

what about cranberry juice and other liquids in large doses, to "flush" the system out ?

thanks again, muchly appreciated ...
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:53 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Huh the state where I live do random drug testing on drivers, as well as breath testing for booze. I havent had one yet but its a swab that gives a pass/fail in around 5 mins and you go for further testing(i think) At this stage its only a fine but if you get aught 3 times you can do your licence and probably get a visit from the local law. It was only a trial, not sure if it has been passed for ever or not.
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Old 12-02-2008, 10:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Ok, this is the research I've done on drug tests and smoking weed. From what I've read (everything after this is opinion and internet research) the standard drug test for most jobs is a urine test. Some places do blood tests and if this is your case you are SOL, you can't cheat one of those. Anyway, 50ml is the THC threshold for standard unine tests. How much THC is in your system depends on a few physical attrubtues.

How big are you? THC resides in fat cells and when fat cells break down the THC is throw into your waste removal system (I am not familiar with the inter-workings for the human anatomy) and then pissed into a toilet or into a cup. The fatter you are, the longer THC stays in your system.

Two, you have already said you are not a chronic smoker, but what is your weekly rate? Once a day, once a week, once a month? The more you smoke on a regular basis the more THC has crept into your fat cells. One Month for anyone no matter how fat or much you smoke will get it all out of your system. Hair samples can show more than a month or so, but most places just do piss.

Drink ALOT of water and do some kind of exercise to try to burn those fat cells that have THC in them. I've seen a medium build guy who was a chronic smoker drink himself stupid with water (almost putting him in the ER) and pass one in a day. If you drink alot of water and no other colas/tea/coffee then your piss will be clear. Some places will send that back because you can't get a good read from that. Vitamin B12 will make your piss dark if you worry about that. Not a chronic smoker and smaller guy? 3-5 days of heavy water consumption and exercise, you can pass one.

I am on the fence about drug tests. They really only hurt pot smokers as other drugs are out of your system in 3 days and most of the hard drugs have visual signs you can see. I don't want anyone who has my physical life in their hands doing ANY drugs. Nor anyone who could be a danger to anyone around them (school bus driver, trucker carrying high bio-hazardous material, crane operator). I don't like hard drugs (crack, coke, opiate-based, or anything made in a bathtub) so I don't think ANYONE should do them. Pot.... it shouldn't be a drug, it should be the same as alcohol. Restricted, only allowed in certain places, and not allowed for on the job use. It's fun with friends, just don't let it BE your life. /soapbox
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Huh the state where I live do random drug testing on drivers, as well as breath testing for booze. I havent had one yet but its a swab that gives a pass/fail in around 5 mins and you go for further testing(i think) At this stage its only a fine but if you get aught 3 times you can do your licence and probably get a visit from the local law. It was only a trial, not sure if it has been passed for ever or not.
If this is in the US the officers must have probable cause. If they don't have probable cause they can't force you to submit to a drug test as it would be a violation of the 4th amendment.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yea well, the standard for obtaining a probable cause is basically down to whether the officer likes what color shirt you're wearing.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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thanks all ...

wow, thank you "my lord" ... very thorough and helpful ... i love this place ... even if the "titty board" wasnt here , this would be an awesome place ...
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Old 12-08-2008, 04:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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drinks lots of water to flush out your system and i heard cranberry juice works wonders
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:57 AM   #11 (permalink)
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my habits are simiar to your and I use a combination of Golden Seal Root and lots of water and have routinely passed drug tests. FWIW, I think it was mostly the water that did hte trick, but the GSR can't hurt.
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Old 12-19-2008, 11:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Unless you're an EMT or an airplane pilot, it's really none of your employer's god damned business what you put in your body. It's a complete invasion of personal privacy and it's a shame so many people are willing to submit to it. The mere suggestion would be such an insult to me, I'd tell them where to put their job.
I don't agree with that at all. What about a surgeon? Bus or truck driver? What about a person who works in an industrial situation where a mistake could cost lives? Heck what about the person directing traffic in a construction zone? I can think of a lot places where'd I'd want to be pretty damn certain the person doing the job wasn't on drugs.

All that said I think the whole damn war on drugs is a scam. A scam designed to bilk the tax payers out of billions of dollars each year. When the US did their little anti-alcohol experiment back in the early 20th century it didn't keep people from drinking. It did lead to massive organized crime and corruption. I see the problems Al Capone posed to be pretty much the same thing as the current batch of drug cartels and gangs. Same problem, same solution in my opinion.

I say save me my tax dollars and end this silly, indefinite, so called, "war on drug." The only folks benefiting from the war on drugs are the people fighting it, the police agencies get extra funding to fight it and the dealers make a shit load of tax free cash while they fight the cops to sell their products. Just look at the number of people in the US prison system that are there for growing and or using pot. Give me a break, send those folks back to their families and put an end to this insanity. Everyone else pays both parties one way or another, either through taxes and/or buying the substances. I say legalize pretty much everything, certainly pot. Tax it and control it just like alcohol. You want to smoke a bowl? Knock yourself out. Care to do a few lines of coke off your spouses right butt check? By all means, enjoy. Hell, do it off the left one if you like. Where I'd draw the line is if you show up to work incapable of doing your job due to substance abuse you should expect to have consequences. Just like we do now with alcohol. Right now judges, cops, airline pilots- anyone really can go out and get completely hammered if they care to, as long as they take a taxi home and show up to work sober they're fine. This smoke a bowl on the weekend and you're fired is asinine. Really why are we saying you can alter your mind with this substance but not that substance?
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Old 12-19-2008, 01:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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THC level high?

No idea how that happened.

My room-mate smokes odd cigarettes with his friends - could it be secondary inhalation?
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Old 01-05-2009, 01:44 AM   #14 (permalink)
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morning piss

The guys I work with have passed the test but we use a cup that has the indicator on the cup along with the temp. The first piss in the morning is the most loaded with THC so go a few times first before the test and lots of water, quart or a little more that morning. The b-12 does make your piss darker good advice. back to the type we use the guys take a little water in a visine bottle and pour it into the cup as the cup tests the first 90 seconds, Then they dump it out and piss in the cup to get the temp right. good luck!!!
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Old 04-22-2009, 07:22 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I know this was posted quite some time ago, hopefully you passed But, for next time.. go to your local GNC store and purchase a Niacin pill, or a 5-7 day total body cleanse. With the 5-7 day total body cleanse pills, it clears your system of pretty much everything. Within the first day it begins to work, so if you have not smoked that much in the past few weeks you've got a very good chance of actually being clean by the third day.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:51 AM   #16 (permalink)
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There is a whole bunch of incorrect information and common misconceptions in this thread, I'll come back and address them thoroughly when I have time. I just want to address one thing for now.
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Drink ALOT of water and do some kind of exercise to try to burn those fat cells that have THC in them. I've seen a medium build guy who was a chronic smoker drink himself stupid with water (almost putting him in the ER) and pass one in a day. If you drink alot of water and no other colas/tea/coffee then your piss will be clear. Some places will send that back because you can't get a good read from that. Vitamin B12 will make your piss dark if you worry about that. Not a chronic smoker and smaller guy? 3-5 days of heavy water consumption and exercise, you can pass one.
Urine tests will fail if there isn't enough creatine in your sample. This is how they protect against dilution. B12 makes it look more natural, but you need the creatine in there. As for exercising, burning fat releases stored THC metabolites that will fail you. You want to work to burn as much fat as possible until a few days before the test, but overeat and stop exercising for two or three days prior so your body goes back into catablic fat-storing metabolism. A drink or two will disrupt anabolic metabolism and reduce whole-body lipid oxidation by close to 75% for several hours, which can help ensure you're still storing fat instead of burning it the next day.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:39 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Unless you're an EMT or an airplane pilot, it's really none of your employer's god damned business what you put in your body. It's a complete invasion of personal privacy and it's a shame so many people are willing to submit to it. The mere suggestion would be such an insult to me, I'd tell them where to put their job.
I always find it funny that the people who take such principled stands also tend to be the ones with pot leaves in their avatars.

A company doesn't need probable cause to drug test you pre-hire. You're asking for something from them. A drug test is their condition (among others, like say, qualifications) to give it to you. There's no infringement on your civil liberties here. This is a straight-forward consequence of the choices you make.

And I'm not morally against drugs. I've done drugs, and I've enjoyed them. But to do so and then be all offended when it costs you something is just stupid.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:36 PM   #18 (permalink)
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. . . . i presently don't "need" the job per say, just dont want to miss an oppertunity is all.
In that case, by all means - fire up the bong and relax.

There are plenty of people out there who do need the job and would gladly piss in a cup three times a day in return for a paycheck.
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