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Old 08-20-2003, 05:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Best method of... umm... tobacco ingestion.

I saw the post about rolling blunts, and I figured it was OK to post here a question I have about weed. I am an asthmatic, but my girlfriend likes the pipe now and then, and I have a lot of difficulty smoking without choking. Now, this is definitely not an experience thing, I just can't handle it.

We use a pipe, one of the colored ones you buy in tobacco stores or on the streets. Would a bong or hookah be better for me?
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Old 08-20-2003, 08:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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you could try to get some filters and roll those in there (you'll need bigger papers). But in my experience, they make the flow of smoke alot more steady and you'll have zero chance of sucking something straight into your lungs... Had that happen once, and I was coughing & hacking for 15 minutes.

Can't help you on the bong or hookah, sorry
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Old 08-20-2003, 08:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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if you have been smoking from a pipe and can't handle it. Immediately go out to a head shop and purchase a bong of at least 1 ft in height. put the bud in the bowl and fill the bong with water to the line. Put mouth over top of bong and thumb over the carb (little hole above the water line) light bud and breath in, once the bong is full of smoke let go of the carb and you will get a lungful of smooth, cool stinky weed smoke. no particulates, and definitely no burning hotsmoke.

hookahs are also nice because they are water filtered and cooled but for my money a bong gives you a big hit smoother than anything.
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Old 08-20-2003, 03:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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for the smoothest smoke imaginable, fill the bong with coke - (coca-cola) sounds weird I know, but it works for me when I have a sore throat. BTW, did you know that pot was originally prescribed by doctors to asthmatics, as it temporarily dilates the airways
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Old 08-20-2003, 06:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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no- but i will tell you i was once in a house in the montauk sticks (the very end of long island). there were cats, flowers a-blooming, i sick as could be an hour after i arrived. we were debating going to the hospital.

what happened next was not wise. we lit up a joint. interestingly, the attack didn't get worse- i fell asleep and woke up without the slightest tightness of lung.

now i used to use that anecdote to make a point that asthma is at least partially in the mind... but maybe it was the joint!
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Old 08-21-2003, 08:45 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I was a regular bong smoker. Plenty of times a day, but now I can't smoke them without hacking up a lung (I had a bad case of pneumonia and haven't been able to smoke bong the same ever since).
If I were you, I would get a glass bubbler. It is the same concept as a bong (the water filters out the smoke) but smaller. It is also easier to regulate how much smoke you are going to take in.
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Old 08-21-2003, 02:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Recently a friend of mine and I smoked out of this vaporizer type bong. He is a chemist and explained that the weed gets "vaporized" so when you inhale its kind of like a THC "mist".

It was kind of wierd b/c you weren't inhaling a lot of smoke it was a very light mist. I caught a very nice long lasting buzz off of it.

Check this site out for more info (i just googled it for you)

http://shop.grasscity.com/cgi-bin/gr...ml?id=F5fIYjm3
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Old 08-24-2003, 03:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Another way to cool down the smoke in a bong would be to fill the bong with ice instead of water...
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Old 08-25-2003, 12:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If you fill the bong up a little bit with water and then put a ton of ice into it you can take a hit almost without even feeling the smoke!, you gotta watch it though cuz as the ice melts the water will overflow and possibly get into the herb through the slide, which sucks!
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Old 08-26-2003, 01:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I find water Bongs ALOT smoother..Than pipes. Plus Metal pipes make the smoke taste like shit.

Or Just like mentioned in a previous post...We sometimes do bottle tokes, Freeze somewater in the bottle then do it.....Nice & Smooth.

I very rarely choke..But This girl I know, She has this pipe..It's pretty sweet too...It's Yoda From star wars, Anyways...She passed it to me and I started to blaze the bowl and I had my thumb over the shot hole..As soon as I lifted my thumb off that shot hole...The smoke just rushed into my longs...I was hacking for like 10 minutes.

I have smoked from her pipe plenty of times..But that one time..I don't know what happened.

Anyways...Try some of the things that were mentioned and post the verdict.

Good Luck.
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Old 08-26-2003, 07:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 08-26-2003, 11:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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comparing health reasons to ease of use a vaporizer is the best method to ingest this plant.

check out http://lightwell.net/

I've been using the classic eterra for 3 years and am very happy with it. Another benefit of vaporizers is they are much more efficient. Think of weed as a rope (plant) dipped in honey (thc). When you vaporize the rope, you boil off the honey, leaving the rope intact. When you use a direct flame, you are getting some of the honey, but also the useless (and harmful!) plant material.

An easy way to vaporize is with a magnifying glass...
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Old 09-17-2003, 07:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I've always enjoyed my friends' vaporizers, but I have stayed with a good pipe or bong. One cannot sort/break up sticky buds without encountering stickiness all the way through, which is why I can't shake the feeling that vaporizers just get the outside. Nice buzz, but I like the sedative effect also, and I just feel the "up" buzz using the vaporizer, lacking duration & weight. Maybe I like the harmful plant material or some other chemical not present in the "outer THC".
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Old 09-17-2003, 09:32 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Dude, you're asthmatic. Believe it or not, it can kill you. Pick a new sin.
Any would be better. And remember, when you get old, retired and to responsible to party, it won't be the bowls that you've toked, the beers you drank, or highs you've had, that make you smile in rememberence. Those memories are almost always stemming from a sweet piece o' a$$!
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Old 09-17-2003, 06:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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been years but I always found that really hot water in the bong does wonders, the smoke mixes in with steam and its very soothing
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Old 09-18-2003, 04:22 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Recently a friend of mine and I smoked out of this vaporizer type bong. He is a chemist and explained that the weed gets "vaporized" so when you inhale its kind of like a THC "mist".

It was kind of wierd b/c you weren't inhaling a lot of smoke it was a very light mist. I caught a very nice long lasting buzz off of it.

Check this site out for more info (i just googled it for you)

http://shop.grasscity.com/cgi-bin/gr...ml?id=F5fIYjm3
if u are asmatic, and have troubles smoking from a joint or a pipe, this is the way to go dude. The vaporizer burns ONLY the THC and not the other crap. Its the other stuff in pot that makes you cough like crazy. Try it out, I guarantee u will like this. Very smooth feeling, yet gets u stoned as fuck
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Old 09-18-2003, 08:05 PM   #17 (permalink)
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A doctor told me a long time ago - nobody should smoke <i>anything</i> unfiltered without first cooling the smoke thru a water pipe.

But why stick with smoking? If you insist on being foolish enough to use weed, why not put it in a coffee grinder and make some brownies? You don't <i>need</i> to use your lungs to get the drug into your system
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Old 09-21-2003, 07:17 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Try out a vaporizer... and if you don't like the cost of the electric ones, go to www.smoke-right.com ... they're about $15 shipped and work pretty well once you get used to them. Just grind your stuff up finely (no chunks!) and pay attention to the instructions

Then again, you could always heat up some butter in a sauce pan, put your weed in it, strain it out after a bit more heating and then use it to cook in whatever recipe you want that calls for butter... mmmm weedpie...
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Old 09-21-2003, 02:55 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Try a glass bubbler.. it's like a smaller version of a bong.
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Old 09-24-2003, 01:13 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Old 09-24-2003, 02:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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[B]Recently a friend of mine and I smoked out of this vaporizer type bong. He is a chemist and explained that the weed gets "vaporized" so when you inhale its kind of like a THC "mist".

By far the smoothest smoke I have ever encountered. But they are pricey. My friend paid $225 for one. But I always enjoy going over there.
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Old 09-26-2003, 05:49 AM   #22 (permalink)
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WOW, 20 responses and only one of them preaching to you about the foolishness of smoking weed...

Have you tried eating the stuff?
You can also extract the THC and smoke some oil....It's very smooth without the plant material.
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Old 10-02-2003, 08:27 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Another way to cool down the smoke in a bong would be to fill the bong with ice instead of water...
agree, asthmatic and smoking may not be the best decision, but if it is something that helps, I have found the ice with water helps smooth things out, remember if it is your first try do not fill the bong with smoke all the way, the cold smoke will expand in your lungs.
Also for stronger hits, slowly breath in, you will get a thicker smoke (more dense) that when you take in will expand more (I know contradictory to above, but above is to start)
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Old 10-02-2003, 11:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You can find bongs with chambers designed to hold ice. Pretty cool--no pun intended.

Here's some examples of what to look for
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Old 10-07-2003, 10:29 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Bake cookies! Though nobody has ever managed to disguise that gawd-awful taste properly.
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Old 10-07-2003, 12:08 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Bake cookies! Though nobody has ever managed to disguise that gawd-awful taste properly.
If you follow moot1337's advice ...
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Then again, you could always heat up some butter in a sauce pan, put your weed in it, strain it out after a bit more heating and then use it to cook in whatever recipe you want that calls for butter... mmmm weedpie...
You can bake cookies with none of the pulp and with barely any of the "gawd-awful taste".
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Old 10-07-2003, 09:03 PM   #27 (permalink)
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"Best method of... umm... tobacco ingestion."

anally.
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Old 10-09-2003, 10:25 AM   #28 (permalink)
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splck: Ive tried exactly that, I think the basic problem (challenge?) is that weed has an extremely strong and crap taste. Best I ever managed was "honey slides" - dont remember the recipe but the principle is mix the butter/weed mushy pulp with something equally strong but not-crap taste.

Word of warning here: Ingesting it is not always easy to control the dosage. Dont do it on an empty stomach unless you actually enjoy the "para's".
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Old 10-09-2003, 12:30 PM   #29 (permalink)
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splck: Ive tried exactly that, I think the basic problem (challenge?) is that weed has an extremely strong and crap taste. Best I ever managed was "honey slides" - dont remember the recipe but the principle is mix the butter/weed mushy pulp with something equally strong but not-crap taste.

Time for you to try some of British Columbia's best my friend
Extract THC with butter. Run through cheese cloth to get rid of pulp and then make brownies. You end up with almost no weed taste. I've never heard on anyone including the "weed mushy pulp"in the baked goodies.
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Old 10-11-2003, 09:33 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Splck: Hmm seems I did it wrong then. I included it all...

Will try the correct method asap and report back. I was raised on Durban Poison (south africa), pretty good shit.

Thanks
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Old 10-12-2003, 04:04 PM   #31 (permalink)
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water bong or make make some ganga oil and eat it.
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Old 10-14-2003, 07:10 PM   #32 (permalink)
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asthmatic here,...and pot is what i use,as apposed to the ventilin,or whatever this puffer thing is called.

one or two hits and i can breath clear as day..........no need for that man made shit.

anyways...........vaporizer=clean
bong=damn close to clean and.......(unless you are gonna smoke some awsome BC hash...........no shit(pulp) in this...at all.)

and doobies,pipes, are at the bottom of the list....allbeit..........quite handy.

good luck in finding what works for you.

*fires up a waterpipe full of cleeeeean hash*
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Old 10-24-2003, 03:40 PM   #33 (permalink)
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repeating what has been said already, vaporizer is def the way to go...
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Old 10-25-2003, 08:22 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Dude, all the suggestions here wil help, but in the end you may have to break down...


and...

Buy better weed...

Just busting man, unless you are smoking shitty weed... in that case, buy better weed. Otherwise, hits from the bong man! (more fun anyway...)
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Old 10-27-2003, 05:18 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I havn't read the whole thread (just tooo much info! ) but have you tried a bucket bong? Thats the smoothest way I know of smoking weed.
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Old 10-27-2003, 07:14 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I havn't read the whole thread (just tooo much info! ) but have you tried a bucket bong? Thats the smoothest way I know of smoking weed.

you madman...
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Old 11-14-2003, 12:34 PM   #37 (permalink)
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thanks, now all I really want to do is toke. shiat!
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Old 01-22-2004, 10:27 PM   #38 (permalink)
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if you have been smoking from a pipe and can't handle it. Immediately go out to a head shop and purchase a bong of at least 1 ft in height. put the bud in the bowl and fill the bong with water to the line. Put mouth over top of bong and thumb over the carb (little hole above the water line) light bud and breath in, once the bong is full of smoke let go of the carb and you will get a lungful of smooth, cool stinky weed smoke. no particulates, and definitely no burning hotsmoke.

hookahs are also nice because they are water filtered and cooled but for my money a bong gives you a big hit smoother than anything.
Damn were you guys ever right! Christmas night I hit the Village and picked up a big ass $120 bong. I put some ice in there with the water- it totally does the job. I burned the shit out of that thing the other day- we found it easy to use, convenient, and terrific considering how old and dried out my stash is. Watched Old School and made a lot of toast. Sorry for the late thanks. God bless you, everyone.
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Old 01-24-2004, 01:20 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I like the old fashioned way....I roll a joint.
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Old 01-26-2004, 04:21 PM   #40 (permalink)
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have to agree with " floydthebarber"

then practice practice practice
while doin this ponder........

the Best method of... umm... tobacco ingestion.
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