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Bossnass · 03-28-2005, 07:53 PM

I have a small rental business that provides a service for a large campground resort. The managers of the campgrounds, minor shareholders, are sqeezing the life out of me and not taking my problems seriously.

They also give me the run around about not being empowered to make big decisions such as chaging my lease agreement. I know they are only minor shareholders. We are in Alberta. I know they have a partner in vancouver. I also know that the major shareholder is in Toronto. I know the name of their incorperated company that owns the campground.

I plan on pulling out and leaving the managers in a tight spot. On a personal level, it isn't something I think I should do, but on a finicial level I don't really have any option.

I would like to go over the manager's heads and contact the real owners. I suspect that they haven't been fully informed of my situation and demands. I honestly think that the managers have screwed up by undervaluing what I have provided in the past. I wouldn't expect that contacting the owners would lead to a better arrangement (it would take a poor working relationship to a terrible one), but I still would like to.

So how do I find out who they are and how to contact them?

lindseylatch · 03-28-2005, 08:15 PM

Better Business Bureau perhaps?
A lot of that stuff is on record in the city the company is based, you maybe able to contact the proper people, but I'm not sure who that is. Whomever you license your company with I suppose...Good luck with that!

vanblah · 03-28-2005, 09:47 PM

I did a quick google search and came up with:

www.idexec.com and www.knowx.com

they are both subscriptiong based. But if THEY can get the answers for a fee you can usually find this stuff for free. I would imagine that it's just a matter of public record. You could start at the library.

belkins · 04-03-2005, 03:40 PM

www.thomasnet.com

It used to be called the Thomas Register. If you recall being in the library and seeing a collection of big, green books in the business area I believe those were the published versions of the Thomas Register.

iccky · 04-05-2005, 07:02 AM

Most states in the US have a list of registered businesses and their officers, often searchable, on the Secretary of State's website. But I'm not sure how that works in Canada.

the_marq · 04-05-2005, 07:22 AM

Try your local chamber of commerce, they should know who owns the corporation you are dealing with.

Bossnass · 04-05-2005, 10:07 AM

Thanks for all the input.

I was able to find a list of the shareholders; it was a $2.50 search at a local registry office but I was told I good go to a certain Gov't of Alberta building to get the information for free.

The list of shareholders was the people I knew already, who I'm trying to go around, and two numbered companies, one registered in BC and one in Ontario. The registry clerk here said I could pay $10 to find out the shareholders of the BC one, which would take overnight, and I could further pay $35 to run the search in Ontario registries which would take 1-7 working days.

But it has become a bit of a moot point. If the managers only have the authority they claim to have, the shareholders will need to be notified soon since I've notified the managers that I'm leaving. I do wonder what reason or excuse the managers will give the shareholders, but it isn't worth more time/money just to 'tell my side'.

03-28-2005, 07:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bossnass Détente Location: AWOL in Edmonton	How to track down a corporation owner. I have a small rental business that provides a service for a large campground resort. The managers of the campgrounds, minor shareholders, are sqeezing the life out of me and not taking my problems seriously. They also give me the run around about not being empowered to make big decisions such as chaging my lease agreement. I know they are only minor shareholders. We are in Alberta. I know they have a partner in vancouver. I also know that the major shareholder is in Toronto. I know the name of their incorperated company that owns the campground. I plan on pulling out and leaving the managers in a tight spot. On a personal level, it isn't something I think I should do, but on a finicial level I don't really have any option. I would like to go over the manager's heads and contact the real owners. I suspect that they haven't been fully informed of my situation and demands. I honestly think that the managers have screwed up by undervaluing what I have provided in the past. I wouldn't expect that contacting the owners would lead to a better arrangement (it would take a poor working relationship to a terrible one), but I still would like to. So how do I find out who they are and how to contact them?

03-28-2005, 08:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
lindseylatch Addict Location: Seattle, WA	Better Business Bureau perhaps? A lot of that stuff is on record in the city the company is based, you maybe able to contact the proper people, but I'm not sure who that is. Whomever you license your company with I suppose...Good luck with that! __________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him." "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." -Voltaire

04-05-2005, 07:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
the_marq All hail the Mountain King Location: Black Mesa	Try your local chamber of commerce, they should know who owns the corporation you are dealing with. __________________ The Truth: Johnny Cash could have kicked Bruce Lee's ass if he wanted to. #3 in a series

03-28-2005, 09:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
vanblah Junkie	I did a quick google search and came up with: www.idexec.com and www.knowx.com they are both subscriptiong based. But if THEY can get the answers for a fee you can usually find this stuff for free. I would imagine that it's just a matter of public record. You could start at the library.

04-03-2005, 03:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
belkins Tilted Location: Salt Lake City	www.thomasnet.com It used to be called the Thomas Register. If you recall being in the library and seeing a collection of big, green books in the business area I believe those were the published versions of the Thomas Register.

04-05-2005, 07:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
iccky Psycho Location: Princeton, NJ	Most states in the US have a list of registered businesses and their officers, often searchable, on the Secretary of State's website. But I'm not sure how that works in Canada.

04-05-2005, 10:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bossnass Détente Location: AWOL in Edmonton	Thanks for all the input. I was able to find a list of the shareholders; it was a $2.50 search at a local registry office but I was told I good go to a certain Gov't of Alberta building to get the information for free. The list of shareholders was the people I knew already, who I'm trying to go around, and two numbered companies, one registered in BC and one in Ontario. The registry clerk here said I could pay $10 to find out the shareholders of the BC one, which would take overnight, and I could further pay $35 to run the search in Ontario registries which would take 1-7 working days. But it has become a bit of a moot point. If the managers only have the authority they claim to have, the shareholders will need to be notified soon since I've notified the managers that I'm leaving. I do wonder what reason or excuse the managers will give the shareholders, but it isn't worth more time/money just to 'tell my side'.