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Old 01-23-2004, 09:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Water Or Coke?

Ok, posted this in another thread about The benefits of water although this might've been going off track a bit?

WATER
1. 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. (Likely applies to half world population.)

2. In 37% of Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is often mistaken for hunger.

3. Even MILD dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as 3%.

4. One glass of water will shut down midnight hunger pangs for almost 100% of the dieters studied in a University of Washington study.

5. Lack of water, the #1 trigger of daytime fatigue.

6. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 glasses of water a day could significantly ease back and joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers.

7. A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy short-term memory, trouble with basic math, and difficulty focusing on the computer screen or on a printed page.

8. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases the risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50%less likely to develop bladder cancer. Are you drinking the amount of water you should every day?

COKE

1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.

2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will be gone in two days.

3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl and let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.

4. To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the bumper with a rumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil dipped in Coca-Cola.

5. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of Coca-Cola over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion.

6. To loosen a rusted bolt: Apply a cloth soaked in Coca-Cola to the rusted bolt for several minutes.

7. To bake a moist ham: Empty a can of Coca-Cola into the baking pan, wrap the ham in aluminum foil, and bake. Thirty minutes before the ham is finished, remove the foil, allowing the drippings to mix with the Coke for sumptuous brown gravy.

8. To remove grease from clothes: Empty a can of coke into a load of greasy clothes, add detergent, and run through a regular cycle. The Coca-Cola will help loosen grease stains. It will also clean road haze from your windshield.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION:

1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It will dissolve a nail in about four days. Phosphoric acid also leaches calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in osteoporosis.

2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck must use the Hazardous Material place cards reserved for highly corrosive materials.

3. The distributors of coke have been using it to clean the engines of their trucks for about 20 years!

Interesting Fact: Coke outsells bottled water by 20 times in the USA

Now the question is, would YOU like a glass of water or coke?

edit: With that though, yiou'd think there'd be more people dying of coke poisoning or something?

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Old 01-23-2004, 09:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah, it seems a bit extreme--but sodas are still a lot worse for you than a lot of people seem to realize. I dont drink them anymore, and dont drink anything other than water or milk (except for alcoholic beverages). The only time I drink soda anymore is in mixed drinks. Mmmm, Jack and Coke...
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Old 01-23-2004, 10:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hehe, this reminds me of the horse radish I ate for dinner earlier, Eatting a steak and I take a huge scoop of horse-radish instead of mashed potatos. My eyes were watering for like 10 mins looked like I was choking I was so red .. The only thing I had to say was I figured the crap burned off my entire dinner it was so spicy

Honestly, people dont realize how bad sodas are for you .. For some energy they are nice but they are just raw calories and really dont taste much better then water

Personally, I hate when people complain about weight but wont even take a critical yet simple step of cutting out soda entirely .. I see people drinking diet soda and honestly its good to see your concerned about calories however, sodas are raw sugar no matter how many calories it has if you cant drink water then drink a fruit juice or something that at least has some nutritional value.

Also, Im gonna use some coke to get this screw unstuck out of my weight machine since I cant seem to adjust weights since it broke inside there ><
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Old 01-24-2004, 01:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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A few of those coke facts are completely false, but I still avoid drinking soda as much as I can.
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Old 01-24-2004, 09:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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coke is still good if used under moderation.
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Old 01-24-2004, 11:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I was watching a Myth Busters marathon a few weeks ago and they pretty much disproved the T-Bone steak in the bowl of coke thing. It did, however clean chrome fairly well. If I remember correctly it did ok with cleaning up blood.

Coke probably outsells bottled water just because most people have a cheap and easy water supply in their house.

For me I pick water almost 90% of the time. I drank coke like crazy when I was in college. I felt sick and packed on the pounds. I quit drinking coke and dropped a whole lot of weight.
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Old 01-24-2004, 01:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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coke is still good if used under moderation.
Actually there is absolutely no nutritional benefit to drinking coke.
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Old 01-25-2004, 02:22 AM   #8 (permalink)
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i heard you can get cancer from drinkin cola
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oh and yes theres no nutritional benifit, but you still wont dehydrate by drinking it
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Old 01-25-2004, 07:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I've heard it said that anything is okay if taken in moderation including moderation. I still prefer water to Coke and funny enough I've been able to give up my addiction to antacids after giving up the Coke. Coincidence? Hmmmm....maybe. But water is still better for you hands down.
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Old 01-25-2004, 07:19 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I've never been a soda drinker. When I was a kid, I remember going to freinds places and all they drank was pop. Bleh, I'll stick to water thanks.
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Old 01-25-2004, 08:11 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Coke also dehydrates the body and can work as a crude diuretic. However it can also relive some headaches and migraines (those caused by high fluid levels around the brain).
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Old 01-25-2004, 09:59 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I hate it when people spread rumors and lies with no scientific or research supported facts. I got this email from my friends several months back, and since seeing this post, I added all the emails in the chain under a distro list of "people that send me bullshit", and I plan on sending all of them a detailed counter-argument to their nonsense. That 75% statistic is bullshit, along with most of those other "facts". So what if the pH is 2.8. There's something they teach in high school in chemistry called "concentration". I think that's all that needs to be said.

<QUOTE>Many of the notions (and dubious "facts") presented in that e-mail seem to have been taken from the book Your Body's Many Cries for Water, by Fereydoon Batmanghelidj. He arrived at his conclusions through reading, not research, and he claims that his ideas represent a "paradigm shift" that required him to self-publish his book lest his findings "be suppressed.''</QUOTE>

Counter to first part: http://www.snopes.com/toxins/water.htm

Counter to second part: http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/tooth.asp and http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/acid.asp
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Old 01-28-2004, 06:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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@Stan
The tactics of this, albeit false are just used as a means of scaremongering in order to get poeple off of drinking coke and other soda's. Much like the excessive advertising soda compaines used in the first place to get people onto coke Namely identifying with someone (or some image) above the crowd.

Basically it was just trying to say (in terms of nutrition):
Water -> Good
Coke -> Bad
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Old 01-28-2004, 06:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The only time I drink coke is with my other favorite hazardous substance... rum.
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Old 01-29-2004, 07:42 AM   #15 (permalink)
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i heard you can get cancer from drinkin cola
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oh and yes theres no nutritional benifit, but you still wont dehydrate by drinking it
Actually, a glass of tap water contains 77 possibly carcinogenic substances. EVERYTHING thesedays can give you cancer, including organic vegetables.

And Coke actualy rehydrates you faster (if consumed with water) than any non-isotonic drink. Coke contains highj amounts of Potassium and Sodium, which are essential for re-hydration. Wanna drink water only? Well, without any salts in your body, you'll just piss it all out again. Have a Coke, then drink your eight glasses of water.
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Old 01-29-2004, 07:45 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I avoid all forms of caffine and this includes soda however as Rockzilla say sometimes with a choice of poison.

It is due to caffine efecting me and the positive benefits of drinking more water - I no longer suffer with headaches .

I feel that science can say anything and then change it's mind - just try it for a while
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Old 01-29-2004, 07:50 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I didn't know that Coke was so corrosive, and yet "helpful" in some situations...

I suppose that I'd rather have some water than Coke. Water is the best thing for you, and I also didn't know that your metabolism lowers even when you're slightly dehydrated.

All soda is bad for your body and total wellness. So go for the glass of water next time!
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Old 01-30-2004, 09:00 AM   #18 (permalink)
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wait, can i really clean my toilet with coke, because i dont want to put my hand down there, or did they just get the word order wrong and mean you need to clean the toilet bowl before you blow coke off of it?
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Old 02-04-2004, 07:22 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Yeah.. thats why I try to stay away from Coke if I can.. Caffiene & Phosphoric Acid.. I try to drink things that don't have Phosphoric Acid in them. Personally I love Squirt. No caffiene, no Phosphoric acid and still tastes great. Then to top it off that grapefruit juice in it gives me the same kick that the caffiene would do.

Now, after reading that guys, this is why you want to be VERY careful not to spill soda near a computer.. aside from getting inside.. which I'm sure you could understand some implications, well think of the keyboard? Spill coke in there, and wait a day.. and see if the metal wires are still there.... Coke is powerful stuff!
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Interesting read. Doesn't shock me at all though. I've been drinking nothing but water (instead of coke) for almost 9 months now. And eating the same crap, being my lazy self....I've lost 40 pounds. I would suggest it to anybody who lives on the stuff. :P
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Old 02-04-2004, 11:41 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The only time I drink coke is with my other favorite hazardous substance... rum.
My thoughts too. I also like to partake in some whiskey.

Fully (or not so funny) thing, Coke gives me "the wind" something aweful.
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Old 02-05-2004, 12:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I used to drink pop all the time at my job. I started to drink only water and lost about 20 pounds in 3 months.
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Old 02-05-2004, 01:42 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I have watched with growing concern the world community's increasing obsession with the demon liquid water and its cousin "New Water". Though I take great personal risk in speaking out I feel I must, for it is the truthsayer that brings us the light. This world has suffered in darkness for far too long. It is time for a new dawn.
We have only to look to one of our greatest drinking thinkers Pope John Paul George Ringo II who said in his 1969 address to the masses - "Drink not the unfermented liquids, for only in the blissful stupor of alcohol do we, … hey Dexter!, is that you? Where is…? Who?…- Oh yeah, Drink not the poodle of,… Where's my sandwich? I'm Not Drunk!! Woo Hoo! I'm King of the World!" A powerful message from a powerful man.
History itself provides ample confirmation of the truth, or lest we forget the thousands that died in World War II so Ernest & Julio Gallo could freely produce their delightful variety of wines and wine-like spritzers. Was their sacrifice for naught?
Now lets really look at this, why is it doctors are so hep to push the benefits of water on us all? Maybe we should examine the board of directors of the major bottled water companies. Did you know that DOCTORS have a 90% controlling interest in all bottled water companies and that water is secretly known to be the greatest cause of cancer, emphysema, bed-wetting, rickets, baldness, acne, leprosy, malaria AND Hypotoxiglygen
Anemia Sulfinitis. Its true. Of course the medical community would rather we not know this disturbing truth. The medicos make a lot of money treating these unfortunate conditions and when one finally gets well what do they recommend? THAT WE DRINK PLENTY OF WATER! The conspiracy threatens us all.
I say we must look to the noble homeless winos and booze hounds of this great land for guidance. It is in their grizzled features, bloodshot eyes, and smelly garments that we may finally, at long last, find our way home.
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Old 02-05-2004, 05:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Although doctors might be on the water board or whatever, don't buy bottled water with fancy names at inflated prices! Just drink it out of the tap. How much does it cost nowadays (out of the tap)?

As for the other conspiracy crap; are you serious?
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Old 02-18-2004, 10:13 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Serious? How could that possibly be serious? Just thought I'd inject a little humor. Sorry if it was inappropriate. Actually I drink drink about a gallon of water a day. I work out a lot and need the hydration. Don't buy the bottled stuff either tap water works fine.
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Old 02-18-2004, 10:41 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I love how some people actually come to defend coke on a health forum. I have a friend that lost 20 pounds by simply not drinking the 3-5 cans of coke a day he drank anymore. Its loaded with carbs, sugar and calories that if you don't exercise off, will turn in to fat. If you want to lose weight and drink pop, you aren't going to be nearly as successful as you are if you drink water, if at all.
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Old 02-18-2004, 10:45 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Actually, a glass of tap water contains 77 possibly carcinogenic substances. EVERYTHING thesedays can give you cancer, including organic vegetables.

And Coke actualy rehydrates you faster (if consumed with water) than any non-isotonic drink. Coke contains highj amounts of Potassium and Sodium, which are essential for re-hydration. Wanna drink water only? Well, without any salts in your body, you'll just piss it all out again. Have a Coke, then drink your eight glasses of water.

Every tap water is different, especially depending on if you drink well water or city water.

And as for the sodium bit, do you know how much sodium is in your food? EVERYTHING is packed with sodium. Especially processed foods that people that drink coke probably eat. The cons of drinking coke outweigh the pros (if you can call them that) by far.
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I have watched with growing concern the world community's increasing obsession with the demon liquid water and its cousin "New Water". Though I take great personal risk in speaking out I feel I must, for it is the truthsayer that brings us the light. This world has suffered in darkness for far too long. It is time for a new dawn.
We have only to look to one of our greatest drinking thinkers Pope John Paul George Ringo II who said in his 1969 address to the masses - "Drink not the unfermented liquids, for only in the blissful stupor of alcohol do we, … hey Dexter!, is that you? Where is…? Who?…- Oh yeah, Drink not the poodle of,… Where's my sandwich? I'm Not Drunk!! Woo Hoo! I'm King of the World!" A powerful message from a powerful man.
History itself provides ample confirmation of the truth, or lest we forget the thousands that died in World War II so Ernest & Julio Gallo could freely produce their delightful variety of wines and wine-like spritzers. Was their sacrifice for naught?
Now lets really look at this, why is it doctors are so hep to push the benefits of water on us all? Maybe we should examine the board of directors of the major bottled water companies. Did you know that DOCTORS have a 90% controlling interest in all bottled water companies and that water is secretly known to be the greatest cause of cancer, emphysema, bed-wetting, rickets, baldness, acne, leprosy, malaria AND Hypotoxiglygen
Anemia Sulfinitis. Its true. Of course the medical community would rather we not know this disturbing truth. The medicos make a lot of money treating these unfortunate conditions and when one finally gets well what do they recommend? THAT WE DRINK PLENTY OF WATER! The conspiracy threatens us all.
I say we must look to the noble homeless winos and booze hounds of this great land for guidance. It is in their grizzled features, bloodshot eyes, and smelly garments that we may finally, at long last, find our way home.
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Old 02-18-2004, 12:41 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 02-18-2004, 08:54 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I try to stay in as good of shape as possible and I never really thought that a can of soda would hurt until like 6 months ago, and I practically stopped drinking all soda. I try to stay to water, tea, and juice.
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Old 02-20-2004, 10:23 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I dont like cola, its too sweet.
I dont like water, theres no taste.
I dont like juice, just because of the name.
Iced Tea, now theres a drink!!
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Old 02-21-2004, 07:48 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Don't want to hijack or anything, but is stuff like Fresca, which has no calories and no sugar bad for you?
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Old 02-22-2004, 05:23 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Coke also dehydrates the body and can work as a crude diuretic. However it can also relive some headaches and migraines (those caused by high fluid levels around the brain).
My thoughts, not yours:

1. regular coke is loaded with refined sugar, which turns to fat, and caffine, which is a diuretic - good for a headache of a certain type but not for fluid balance
2. your stomach used some pretty strong acid that trumps phosphoric acid in a NY minute
3. water is better but, as with anything, overdoing it will kill you; water will kill you if you drink too much, too fast. Also, too much will deplete your electrolite balance and make your body think it needs to conserve. This is where a hangover originates when you drink and then pee a lot. And why a (diet) coke is good for a hangover - or a cup of coffee or a cup of tea.
4. There is tons of sodium in everything processed. You only need

Everything in moderation creates a balance. That's what you're going for!
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Old 02-22-2004, 01:44 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Coke is by no means good for you. It also contains no Potassium as far as I can tell (reading a can right now). There is sodium in that, but most people in westernized cultures get more than enough of that already in your diet. Water is by far the better choice. Coke will dehydrate you both because of the caffeine in it which acts as a diuretic, and because it is hypertonic, or put simply the stuff dissolved in the water:water ratio is higher than that of our bodies, so our cells actually lose water to balance out the ratio.

The water/coke facts at the beginning of the article I am fairly sure are either exaggerated or totally fabricated, but I can't disprove them, mostly because I don't feel like taking the time to do the research.

Oh, and just about everything gives you cancer

And finally, I gave up sugary pops a little over a year ago, lost 30 pounds. We get an ungodly number of empty calories from pop.
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Old 02-22-2004, 04:54 PM   #35 (permalink)
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After talking with my dad, who's a diabetic and has nutrition classes, he says either water or diet coke is the best. Juice is filled with sugar and other bad stuff (more bad stuff than Coke). Same with alcoholic drinks.

And when you think about it, Diet Coke is just some sodium and phenylalanine.
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Old 02-24-2004, 04:06 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Here, here for diet coke! Good stuff and no greasy sugar! Diet Mountain Dew if you need a caffine boost.
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Old 02-26-2004, 06:58 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I was amazed at how many guys lost weight just by quiting coke. then i remembered how much soda americans drink on average. 3 to 5 cans a day is really bad. you should blame yourself, not the coke.
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Old 02-28-2004, 08:46 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I haven't had a coke in almost 3 years, simply by choice of stopping for the sake of stopping.

So I'll take water.
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Old 02-29-2004, 03:34 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Old 02-29-2004, 03:41 PM   #40 (permalink)
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